"It’s clear Trump’s plan to take control of the Strait of Hormuz wasn’t well thought out."

[Mac-7]

cnm

The US is just getting started

Give it a little time

Or not

Wd will inform you when its safe to come out of hiding

 

[cnm]

cnm

The US is just getting started

Give it a little time

Or not

Wd will inform you when its safe to come out of hiding

Ffs

 

[Mac-7]

It's very easy, I agree. All you have to do is leave.

That would be the spineless Euro solution

And would it be with every other US president in the 21st Century

But so far not Trump

 

[citygator]

cnm

The US is just getting started

Give it a little time

Or not

Wd will inform you when its safe to come out of hiding

We have been two weeks away from a complete victory and unconditional surrender of Iran for months.

 

[Mac-7]

We have been two weeks away from a complete victory and unconditional surrender of Iran for months.

Not from me

I have never set a timetable on the final outcome

 

[citygator]

Not from me

I have never set a timetable on the final outcome

We'll, if you were elected that would mean something. But Trump's timeline was two weeks. He just said it again today.

 

[toomuchtime_]

We'll, if you were elected that would mean something. But Trump's timeline was two weeks. He just said it again today.

The ceasefire began on April 8 so it didn't even take two weeks to defeat the Iranian military.

 

[citygator]

The ceasefire began on April 8 so it didn't even take two weeks to defeat the Iranian military.

Unconditional surrender was the plan. Maybe confiscating all the nuclear material instead? We havent done either. Sure we bombed 50 year old equipment we gave them. But that is it.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Unconditional surrender was the plan. Maybe confiscating all the nuclear material instead? We havent done either. Sure we bombed 50 year old equipment we gave them. But that is it.

Unconditional surrender by the ayatollahs is still the only possible outcome but the war is over, just as Trump had estimated it would be.

 

[HikerGuy83]

I believe you loony Left Wing-nuts constantly miss an important fact.

That's the point.

They are not missing anything. They know just what they are doing.

They are not interested in ANYTHING other than getting what they want.

And that does not include preserving our constitution.

They are seditious traitors who will only use words to back us down. The words they use are dear to us (that's why they use them), but, in reality, mean nothing to them.

It's time to make sure we understand who is on what side and what the side stands for.

 

[Mac-7]

We'll, if you were elected that would mean something. But Trump's timeline was two weeks. He just said it again today.

Ok, it didnt happen in two weeks

But unless trump caves under pressure it will happen

 

[citygator]

Ok, it didnt happen in two weeks

But unless trump caves under pressure it will happen

I dont think Trump has the time. All they have to do is wait out the midterms. Trump's issue was not aligning the country and democrats behind him. He didnt go to them and offer a sane strategy and reasoning. They will pull his funding as soon as the GOP loses the house. Iran's leaders know this.

Anything is possible but i cant see how he gets out of it. He either needs to give up but claim he won (most likely scenario) or ruthlessly bomb them and invade on foot to secure the nuclear materials and remove the leadership (unlikely scenario). I dont see any other options.

 

[toomuchtime_]

I dont think Trump has the time. All they have to do is wait out the midterms. Trump's issue was not aligning the country and democrats behind him. He didnt go to them and offer a sane strategy and reasoning. They will pull his funding as soon as the GOP loses the house. Iran's leaders know this.

Anything is possible but i cant see how he gets out of it. He either needs to give up but claim he won (most likely scenario) or ruthlessly bomb them and invade on foot to secure the nuclear materials and remove the leadership (unlikely scenario). I dont see any other options.

It's possible the ayatollahs will survive for six months until the midterms but highly unlikely. Even if the US does not resume bombing, there is a confluence of forces that will make it very difficult for them to survive. Even before the war the economy was crumbling and anti government protests had spread all across the country, and now with the ayatollahs out of the oil and gas business, about 45% of their already inadequate budget will be gone, and the Iranian people will watch what money is left go to Hezbollah and the Houthi instead of to them.

Massacring protesters didn't save the Assad government in Syria and it won't save the ayatollahs in Iran. The IRGC talks tough but its missiles, all it has left of its military, are good only for terror attacks against other states in the ME. Once the US opens up the Strait of Hormuz, there is nothing left for the ayatollahs to do but plan their escape.

 

[Crepitus]

cheer the islamofascist regime on commie .. cheer them on !

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Not what I'm doing, Son. Pay attention for a change.

It might help if you stopped letting grok do your thinking for you. Just sayin'...

 

[citygator]

It's possible the ayatollahs will survive for six months until the midterms but highly unlikely. Even if the US does not resume bombing, there is a confluence of forces that will make it very difficult for them to survive. Even before the war the economy was crumbling and anti government protests had spread all across the country, and now with the ayatollahs out of the oil and gas business, about 45% of their already inadequate budget will be gone, and the Iranian people will watch what money is left go to Hezbollah and the Houthi instead of to them.

Massacring protesters didn't save the Assad government in Syria and it won't save the ayatollahs in Iran. The IRGC talks tough but its missiles, all it has left of its military, are good only for terror attacks against other states in the ME. Once the US opens up the Strait of Hormuz, there is nothing left for the ayatollahs to do but plan their escape.

But they can wait out Trump because they have time UNLESS he invades with equipment and foot soldiers. I doubt that happens but I could be wrong.

 

[yidnar]

Not what I'm doing, Son. Pay attention for a change.

It might help if you stopped letting grok do your thinking for you. Just sayin'...

its exactly what you and your comrades are doing woman ..

 

[Crepitus]

its exactly what you and your comrades are doing woman ..

NO, tranny. It's not what I'm talking about.

 

[Mac-7]

I dont think Trump has the time. All they have to do is wait out the midterms. Trump's issue was not aligning the country and democrats behind him. He didnt go to them and offer a sane strategy and reasoning. They will pull his funding as soon as the GOP loses the house. Iran's leaders know this.

Anything is possible but i cant see how he gets out of it. He either needs to give up but claim he won (most likely scenario) or ruthlessly bomb them and invade on foot to secure the nuclear materials and remove the leadership (unlikely scenario). I dont see any other options.

All the mullahs have to do is sustain a minority position atop iran for 6 months with no oil revenue

Which is their sole source of income

Thats a very long time

Yes itis hurting trump politically

Which is why previous presidents were afraid to confront Iran

No chapters in Profiles in Courage for them

But trump believes that a nuclear-free Iran is worth what it costs him personally

 

[yidnar]

NO, tranny. It's not what I'm talking about.

 

[Mashmont]

I can't believe this guy and his team have taken us to war. Not only that, but their plans, or lack of any real plans that they all can agree on, keep falling by the wayside. Only the defenders and apologists of Trump seem to have their act together - and that act is to attack anyone and everybody who tries to question the seemingly lack of a Trump strategy here. Sure, we see the successes of US military tactical operations, but any clear strategy seems to be guided by Trump's mercurial nature -- his love of chaos.

Trump Threatens Iran as His Plan for Strait of Hormuz Disintegrates

Trump is warning that Iran will be “blown off the face of the earth.”

newrepublic.com

It’s clear Trump’s plan to take control of the Strait of Hormuz wasn’t well thought out. Did Trump really expect the Iranian government to just cave to his demands?

On Monday afternoon, shortly after begging South Korea to join the war following the attack on its ship, the president announced that Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Dan Caine will hold a press conference Tuesday morning.

So what year did you graduate from the Naval Academy or West Point, given you know more about strategy than the admirals and generals devising our current course?