It's A Given

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If the New York jury convicts Defendant Donald, it's a given his supporters will claim the election jury was rigged.

It's a given Defendant Donald will appeal.

It's a given the judge will need a lifetime of protection.

It's a given MAGA world will do their level best to dox the jurors, requiring them to need protection.

Freed from a gag order, it's a given the convict will whine about the judge, the jurors, New York, Joe Biden, the cost of golf clubs, something about clouds and snails and China and socks and roof tiles and whatever else wanders into his stream of consciousness. And, of course, the man who fomented a coup and paid off a porn star to keep her a secret from the voters will whine about election interference with no sense of self-awareness whatsoever.

But is it a given the judge will sentence the criminal to jail? Is it even a given the judge will sentence him to house arrest? If he does sentence the convict to house arrest, will it be in Trump Tower? Will the judge make allowances for campaign appearances?

I can't see Trump going to jail. He has a Secret Service detail for the rest of his life. The logistics are pretty complicated.

What say you?

If you are a Trump supporter and feel compelled in this moment to make attacks, throw red herrings, denialism, whataboutism, post links of Joe Biden falling off his bike, or whatever, don't bother.


I am asking a serious question. What do you think Trump's punishment will be if convicted?


Edited to add link: Defense Rests and Closing Arguments are Next
 
Whatever the sentence handed down to Trump, I think it is safe to say the judge will stay the sentence while the convict appeals.
 
If the New York jury convicts Defendant Donald, it's a given his supporters will claim the election jury was rigged.

It's a given Defendant Donald will appeal.

It's a given the judge will need a lifetime of protection.

It's a given MAGA world will do their level best to dox the jurors, requiring them to need protection.

Freed from a gag order, it's a given the convict will whine about the judge, the jurors, New York, Joe Biden, the cost of golf clubs, something about clouds and snails and China and socks and roof tiles and whatever else wanders into his stream of consciousness. And, of course, the man who fomented a coup and paid off a porn star to keep her a secret from the voters will whine about election interference with no sense of self-awareness whatsoever.

But is it a given the judge will sentence the criminal to jail? Is it even a given the judge will sentence him to house arrest? If he does sentence the convict to house arrest, will it be in Trump Tower? Will the judge make allowances for campaign appearances?

I can't see Trump going to jail. He has a Secret Service detail for the rest of his life. The logistics are pretty complicated.

What say you?

If you are a Trump supporter and feel compelled in this moment to make attacks, throw red herrings, denialism, whataboutism, post links of Joe Biden falling off his bike, or whatever, don't bother.


I am asking a serious question. What do you think Trump's punishment will be if convicted?


Edited to add link: Defense Rests and Closing Arguments are Next
Take two aspirin and call Dr. Soros in the morning.
 
If the New York jury convicts Defendant Donald, it's a given his supporters will claim the election jury was rigged.

It's a given Defendant Donald will appeal.

It's a given the judge will need a lifetime of protection.

It's a given MAGA world will do their level best to dox the jurors, requiring them to need protection.

Freed from a gag order, it's a given the convict will whine about the judge, the jurors, New York, Joe Biden, the cost of golf clubs, something about clouds and snails and China and socks and roof tiles and whatever else wanders into his stream of consciousness. And, of course, the man who fomented a coup and paid off a porn star to keep her a secret from the voters will whine about election interference with no sense of self-awareness whatsoever.

But is it a given the judge will sentence the criminal to jail? Is it even a given the judge will sentence him to house arrest? If he does sentence the convict to house arrest, will it be in Trump Tower? Will the judge make allowances for campaign appearances?

I can't see Trump going to jail. He has a Secret Service detail for the rest of his life. The logistics are pretty complicated.

What say you?

If you are a Trump supporter and feel compelled in this moment to make attacks, throw red herrings, denialism, whataboutism, post links of Joe Biden falling off his bike, or whatever, don't bother.


I am asking a serious question. What do you think Trump's punishment will be if convicted?


Edited to add link: Defense Rests and Closing Arguments are Next
I assume it will be house arrest (given our two tiered justice system).

The question is where. NJ would allow the fat slob to play golf in warmer weather.

It’s interesting as to what restrictions would be placed on him
 
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If the New York jury convicts Defendant Donald, it's a given his supporters will claim the election jury was rigged.

It's a given Defendant Donald will appeal.

It's a given the judge will need a lifetime of protection.

It's a given MAGA world will do their level best to dox the jurors, requiring them to need protection.

Freed from a gag order, it's a given the convict will whine about the judge, the jurors, New York, Joe Biden, the cost of golf clubs, something about clouds and snails and China and socks and roof tiles and whatever else wanders into his stream of consciousness. And, of course, the man who fomented a coup and paid off a porn star to keep her a secret from the voters will whine about election interference with no sense of self-awareness whatsoever.

But is it a given the judge will sentence the criminal to jail? Is it even a given the judge will sentence him to house arrest? If he does sentence the convict to house arrest, will it be in Trump Tower? Will the judge make allowances for campaign appearances?

I can't see Trump going to jail. He has a Secret Service detail for the rest of his life. The logistics are pretty complicated.

What say you?

If you are a Trump supporter and feel compelled in this moment to make attacks, throw red herrings, denialism, whataboutism, post links of Joe Biden falling off his bike, or whatever, don't bother.


I am asking a serious question. What do you think Trump's punishment will be if convicted?


Edited to add link: Defense Rests and Closing Arguments are Next


I say it's 50/50 hung jury or conviction, a conviction will be overturned on appeal. The judge made way too many reversible errors, he'll be lucky to keep his bar card.

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I say it's 50/50 hung jury or conviction, a conviction will be overturned on appeal. The judge made way too many reversible errors, he'll be lucky to keep his bar card.

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The judge's "bar card" is not in jeopardy in any way whatsoever. That's just wishful bullshit.

Stop watching the MAGA media.
 
If the New York jury convicts Defendant Donald, it's a given his supporters will claim the election jury was rigged.

It's a given Defendant Donald will appeal.

It's a given the judge will need a lifetime of protection.

It's a given MAGA world will do their level best to dox the jurors, requiring them to need protection.

Freed from a gag order, it's a given the convict will whine about the judge, the jurors, New York, Joe Biden, the cost of golf clubs, something about clouds and snails and China and socks and roof tiles and whatever else wanders into his stream of consciousness. And, of course, the man who fomented a coup and paid off a porn star to keep her a secret from the voters will whine about election interference with no sense of self-awareness whatsoever.

But is it a given the judge will sentence the criminal to jail? Is it even a given the judge will sentence him to house arrest? If he does sentence the convict to house arrest, will it be in Trump Tower? Will the judge make allowances for campaign appearances?

I can't see Trump going to jail. He has a Secret Service detail for the rest of his life. The logistics are pretty complicated.

What say you?

If you are a Trump supporter and feel compelled in this moment to make attacks, throw red herrings, denialism, whataboutism, post links of Joe Biden falling off his bike, or whatever, don't bother.


I am asking a serious question. What do you think Trump's punishment will be if convicted?


Edited to add link: Defense Rests and Closing Arguments are Next
It's a given that the left are abusing their power to get Trump with malicious prosecutions to influence the election, even going so far as to trying to take him off the ballot.
 
I assume it will be house arrest (given our two tiered justice system).

The question is where. NJ would allow the fat slob to play golf in warmer weather.

It’s interesting as to what restrictions would be placed on him
It's a state of New York trial, so I would assume if he is given house arrest, it would have to be in Trump's apartment in his Tower.

I hear it's pretty spacious. 30,000 square feet...
 
If the New York jury convicts Defendant Donald, it's a given his supporters will claim the election jury was rigged.

It's a given Defendant Donald will appeal.

It's a given the judge will need a lifetime of protection.

It's a given MAGA world will do their level best to dox the jurors, requiring them to need protection.

Freed from a gag order, it's a given the convict will whine about the judge, the jurors, New York, Joe Biden, the cost of golf clubs, something about clouds and snails and China and socks and roof tiles and whatever else wanders into his stream of consciousness. And, of course, the man who fomented a coup and paid off a porn star to keep her a secret from the voters will whine about election interference with no sense of self-awareness whatsoever.

But is it a given the judge will sentence the criminal to jail? Is it even a given the judge will sentence him to house arrest? If he does sentence the convict to house arrest, will it be in Trump Tower? Will the judge make allowances for campaign appearances?

I can't see Trump going to jail. He has a Secret Service detail for the rest of his life. The logistics are pretty complicated.

What say you?

If you are a Trump supporter and feel compelled in this moment to make attacks, throw red herrings, denialism, whataboutism, post links of Joe Biden falling off his bike, or whatever, don't bother.


I am asking a serious question. What do you think Trump's punishment will be if convicted?


Edited to add link: Defense Rests and Closing Arguments are Next
We recognize the complete lack of a valid charged crime as well as the lack of evidence. We also recognize the duplicity of the partisan hack persecution and the absolutely disgraceful rulings by the biased judge.

But you’re a hack. So, you simply refuse to recognize reality.
 
It's a state of New York trial, so I would assume if he is given house arrest, it would have to be in Trump's apartment in his Tower.

I hear it's pretty spacious. 30,000 square feet...
Still not big enough to play golf
 
I say it's 50/50 hung jury or conviction, a conviction will be overturned on appeal. The judge made way too many reversible errors, he'll be lucky to keep his bar card.

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Which reversible errors are those?
 
The judge's "bar card" is not in jeopardy in any way whatsoever. That's just wishful bullshit.

Stop watching the MAGA media.


Once his multiple, nonsensical and obviously biased decisions are more closely scrutinized he may be in deep shit. He also violated Trump's 5th, 6th and 14th Amendment rights.

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Which reversible errors are those?


The salacious and irrelevant testimony of Daniels, the existence of the NDA had been stipulated, there was no reason for her to be there. Also not allowing the full testimony of the FEC official to clarify the law in that regards and why the FEC chose to not pursue Trump. A judge can not deny a defendant a proper defense. I also have an idea the judge will not provide the jury with what is a standard jury instruction in the State of NY. That being, that if the jury is sure that a witness has lied in the past in judicial proceeding, the jury can disregard their testimony in it's entirety. I guess we'll see on that one tomorrow or Thursday.

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