It was never called "Palestine"!!

[Roudy]

It was never called "Filistine" or Palestine or anything of the sort. During the Ottoman Empire since the 1500's, not even during the Abbasid empire even before.

A Fraud is a fraud is a fraud. Palestinian is an invented identity stolen by the invading Arabs which referred to the Jews of the region only.

"There is no such country as Palestine. 'Palestine' is a term the Zionists invented. There is no Palestine in the Bible. Our country was for centuries part of Syria. 'Palestine' is alien to us. It is the Zionists who introduced it".

- Auni Bey Abdul-Hadi, Syrian Arab leader to British Peel Commission, 1937 -

Afternoon Map: Ottoman and Arab Maps of Palestine, 1880s-1910s

Afternoon Map Ottoman and Arab Maps of Palestine 1880s-1910s

Our next map, like the rest in Jughrafiya-i Osmani (see 90, 101, 104, and 116), make no mention of Palestine anywhere. This was not uncommon for the period, as Palestine did not constitute an administrative district in the Ottoman Empire. Instead, the entire region is labeled ‘Suriye’ in all of these maps.

The final map in our collection comes from George Post’s Nabat Suriya wa-Filastin wa-al-Qatr al-Misri wa-Bawadiha (Beirut, n.p., 1884), 411 (The Flora of Syria, Palestine, and the Egyptian Country and its Desert). The title of the map itself is: The Botanical Climate of Syria(Aqalim Suriyya al-Nabatiyya). Note that Filastin does not appear anywhere on the map. Again, insofar as this is a translation of a book by one of most well-regarded botanists and geographers of Palestine in the nineteenth century, we once again see just how much the Arabs, in this case, came under the influence of their European counterparts. Indeed, this is one of the first books ever published in the Arab language which included the word ‘Filastin’ in the title of the work, and, low and behold, it is a translation from the English!

 

[montelatici]

I see, posting made up maps from the Hasbara library makes it true. LOL You are such a childish little nutcase.

 

[montelatici]

Let's look at an authoritative source.

"What is more, the Porte decided to oppose Jewish settlement in Palestine in autumn 1881, some months before the increased flow of Jews in that direction got under way. ('Palestine', for the purpose of this article, is used to mean the area referred to in contemporary Ottoman parlance and documents as 'Arzi Filistin',

http://ismi.emory.edu/home/documents/Readings/Mandel, Neville J. Ottoman Policy.pdf

 

[Roudy]

I see, posting made up maps from the Hasbara library makes it true. LOL You are such a childish little nutcase.

Those are actually maps that YOU posted. I merely looked at them in detail to see that it completely refutes your claim! Thanks for the info, asswipe.

A Fraud is a fraud is a fraud. Palestinian is an invented identity stolen by the invading Arabs which referred to the Jews of the region only :

"There is no such country as Palestine. 'Palestine' is a term the Zionists invented. There is no Palestine in the Bible. Our country was for centuries part of Syria. 'Palestine' is alien to us. It is the Zionists who introduced it".

- Auni Bey Abdul-Hadi, Syrian Arab leader to British Peel Commission, 1937 -

 

[Roudy]

Actual Ottoman map, no mention of Palestine or Filistine, show it to your Arab terrorist loving friends who can read Arabic, they will tell you it says "Sooriya": Now get lost.

 

[montelatici]

Note that the region of Palestine or Filistin also appears on this map (straddling Nablus and Jerusalem provinces at left).

 

[Roudy]

The Arabs started calling it "Falastine" because of European influence circa 1900's.

Our next map, like the rest in Jughrafiya-i Osmani (see 90, 101, 104, and 116), make no mention of Palestine anywhere. This was not uncommon for the period, as Palestine did not constitute an administrative district in the Ottoman Empire. Instead, the entire region is labeled ‘Suriye’ in all of these maps.

The final map in our collection comes from George Post’s Nabat Suriya wa-Filastin wa-al-Qatr al-Misri wa-Bawadiha (Beirut, n.p., 1884), 411 (The Flora of Syria, Palestine, and the Egyptian Country and its Desert). The title of the map itself is: The Botanical Climate of Syria(Aqalim Suriyya al-Nabatiyya). Note that Filastin does not appear anywhere on the map. Again, insofar as this is a translation of a book by one of most well-regarded botanists and geographers of Palestine in the nineteenth century, we once again see just how much the Arabs, in this case, came under the influence of their European counterparts. Indeed, this is one of the first books ever published in the Arab language which included the word ‘Filastin’ in the title of the work, and, low and behold, it is a translation from the English!

 

[Roudy]

Let us hear what other Arabs have said:

"There is no such thing as Palestine in history, absolutely not".

- Professor Philip Hitti, Arab historian, 1946 -


"It is common knowledge that Palestine is nothing but Southern Syria".

- Representant of Saudi Arabia at the United Nations, 1956 -

Concerning the Holy Land, the chairman of the Syrian Delegation at the Paris Peace Conference in February 1919 stated:

"The only Arab domination since the Conquest in 635 c.e. hardly lasted, as such, 22 years".

 

[Hossfly]

Note that the region of Palestine or Filistin also appears on this map (straddling Nablus and Jerusalem provinces at left).

How about the map title being Suriye-vilayeti?

 

[Roudy]

Note that the region of Palestine or Filistin also appears on this map (straddling Nablus and Jerusalem provinces at left).

How about the map title being Suriye-vilayeti?

Like I said, his own "evidence" totally refutes his claim. Poor poor Monte the fraudster.

What other Arabs declared after the Six-Day War:

"There are no differences between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. We are all part of one nation. It is only for political reasons that we carefully underline our Palestinian identity... yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity serves only tactical purposes. The founding of a Palestinian state is a new tool in the continuing battle against Israel".

- Zuhair Muhsin, military commander of the PLO and member of the PLO Executive Council -


"You do not represent Palestine as much as we do. Never forget this one point: There is no such thing as a Palestinian people, there is no Palestinian entity, there is only Syria. You are an integral part of the Syrian people, Palestine is an integral part of Syria. Therefore it is we, the Syrian authorities, who are the true representatives of the Palestinian people".

- Syrian dictator Hafez Assad to the PLO leader Yassir Arafat -


"As I lived in Palestine, everyone I knew could trace their heritage back to the original country their great grandparents came from. Everyone knew their origin was not from the Canaanites, but ironically, this is the kind of stuff our education in the Middle East included. The fact is that today's Palestinians are immigrants from the surrounding nations! I grew up well knowing the history and origins of today's Palestinians as being from Yemen, Saudi Arabia, Morocco, Christians from Greece, muslim Sherkas from Russia, muslims from Bosnia, and the Jordanians next door. My grandfather, who was a dignitary in Bethlehem, almost lost his life by Abdul Qader Al-Husseni (the leader of the Palestinian revolution) after being accused of selling land to Jews. He used to tell us that his village Beit Sahur (The Shepherds Fields) in Bethlehem County was empty before his father settled in the area with six other families. The town has now grown to 30,000 inhabitants".

- Ex-Palestinian terrorist

 

[Fenton Lum]

· Israeli arms sales to Europe grew from $724M in 2014 to $1.63B in 2015


· Although the size of New Jersey Israel is one of the top 10 arms dealing nations in the world


· Israel produces 60% of all drones worldwide and sells to over 50 countries, at times selling to both sides of a given conflict, and Israel fueled the drones arms race between India and Pakistan

Palestine is an open air weapons testing and crowd control laboratory with Palestinians being used in the development phase; Gaza is a lab of mass destruction. US super bunker busters were supplied to the Israelis in 2014 and investors stock shot up; war is just business after all.

The “War in Terror” has been a boon to the industry, you’ve seen what amounts to advertisement in every “news” outlet, we are being whipped up into a frenzy once again. The industry also pioneers crowd control research on the Palestinians, and Israel is involved in the training of American forces and law enforcement. We see this in the militarization of our own police departments, Ferguson was but one example of how our system is prepping to Palestinianize our own population, and in fact Ferguson now has Israeli developed/sold skunk spray post the Ferguson events, although no incidents have yet been reported of use on American streets. It’s pretty clear that the Israeli occupation style power structure is moving toward the same in America; a warehousing of the poor in a post industrial age with diminishing living wage jobs and privatized for profit prisons complete with a return to convict leasing.

Much of the security monitoring and mass surveillance technologies are also produced in Israel and sold across the globe. “Targeted assassination” was invented in Israel, which Obama was quite fond of. Abu Ghraib torture methods? Israel.

The US and Israel are not allies. The US and Israeli arms dealers are allies, and war is the business they are both in. We are all collateral damage.

 

[montelatici]

Khan Younis - Palestine 1850 / Postal stamp early Century part of Ottoman Empire

ottoman stamp filitin - Google Search:

 

[montelatici]

Note that the region of Palestine or Filistin also appears on this map (straddling Nablus and Jerusalem provinces at left).

How about the map title being Suriye-vilayeti?

Like I said, his own "evidence" totally refutes his claim. Poor poor Monte the fraudster.

What other Arabs declared after the Six-Day War:

"There are no differences between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. We are all part of one nation. It is only for political reasons that we carefully underline our Palestinian identity... yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity serves only tactical purposes. The founding of a Palestinian state is a new tool in the continuing battle against Israel".

- Zuhair Muhsin, military commander of the PLO and member of the PLO Executive Council -


"You do not represent Palestine as much as we do. Never forget this one point: There is no such thing as a Palestinian people, there is no Palestinian entity, there is only Syria. You are an integral part of the Syrian people, Palestine is an integral part of Syria. Therefore it is we, the Syrian authorities, who are the true representatives of the Palestinian people".

- Syrian dictator Hafez Assad to the PLO leader Yassir Arafat -


"As I lived in Palestine, everyone I knew could trace their heritage back to the original country their great grandparents came from. Everyone knew their origin was not from the Canaanites, but ironically, this is the kind of stuff our education in the Middle East included. The fact is that today's Palestinians are immigrants from the surrounding nations! I grew up well knowing the history and origins of today's Palestinians as being from Yemen, Saudi Arabia, Morocco, Christians from Greece, muslim Sherkas from Russia, muslims from Bosnia, and the Jordanians next door. My grandfather, who was a dignitary in Bethlehem, almost lost his life by Abdul Qader Al-Husseni (the leader of the Palestinian revolution) after being accused of selling land to Jews. He used to tell us that his village Beit Sahur (The Shepherds Fields) in Bethlehem County was empty before his father settled in the area with six other families. The town has now grown to 30,000 inhabitants".

- Ex-Palestinian terrorist

You are hilarious. Maps, postal stamps, historical texts and other sources demonstrate that the claimed non-existence of Palestine and Palestinians is Zionist propaganda. But everyone with a brain knows that the claims of the Zionists colonizing an "empty land" is pure Zionist propaganda.

 

[Fenton Lum]

Note that the region of Palestine or Filistin also appears on this map (straddling Nablus and Jerusalem provinces at left).

How about the map title being Suriye-vilayeti?

Like I said, his own "evidence" totally refutes his claim. Poor poor Monte the fraudster.

What other Arabs declared after the Six-Day War:

"There are no differences between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. We are all part of one nation. It is only for political reasons that we carefully underline our Palestinian identity... yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity serves only tactical purposes. The founding of a Palestinian state is a new tool in the continuing battle against Israel".

- Zuhair Muhsin, military commander of the PLO and member of the PLO Executive Council -


"You do not represent Palestine as much as we do. Never forget this one point: There is no such thing as a Palestinian people, there is no Palestinian entity, there is only Syria. You are an integral part of the Syrian people, Palestine is an integral part of Syria. Therefore it is we, the Syrian authorities, who are the true representatives of the Palestinian people".

- Syrian dictator Hafez Assad to the PLO leader Yassir Arafat -


"As I lived in Palestine, everyone I knew could trace their heritage back to the original country their great grandparents came from. Everyone knew their origin was not from the Canaanites, but ironically, this is the kind of stuff our education in the Middle East included. The fact is that today's Palestinians are immigrants from the surrounding nations! I grew up well knowing the history and origins of today's Palestinians as being from Yemen, Saudi Arabia, Morocco, Christians from Greece, muslim Sherkas from Russia, muslims from Bosnia, and the Jordanians next door. My grandfather, who was a dignitary in Bethlehem, almost lost his life by Abdul Qader Al-Husseni (the leader of the Palestinian revolution) after being accused of selling land to Jews. He used to tell us that his village Beit Sahur (The Shepherds Fields) in Bethlehem County was empty before his father settled in the area with six other families. The town has now grown to 30,000 inhabitants".

- Ex-Palestinian terrorist

You are hilarious. Maps, postal stamps, historical texts and other sources demonstrate that the claimed non-existence of Palestine and Palestinians is Zionist propaganda. But everyone with a brain knows that the claims of the Zionists colonizing an "empty land" is pure Zionist propaganda.

Some americans feel a kinship with ethnic cleansers; we share a common tactic with those societies.

 

[Synthaholic]

What a dumbass.


Historical maps of Palestine

1917 Newspaper:

 

[Fenton Lum]

Note that the region of Palestine or Filistin also appears on this map (straddling Nablus and Jerusalem provinces at left).

How about the map title being Suriye-vilayeti?

Like I said, his own "evidence" totally refutes his claim. Poor poor Monte the fraudster.

What other Arabs declared after the Six-Day War:

"There are no differences between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. We are all part of one nation. It is only for political reasons that we carefully underline our Palestinian identity... yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity serves only tactical purposes. The founding of a Palestinian state is a new tool in the continuing battle against Israel".

- Zuhair Muhsin, military commander of the PLO and member of the PLO Executive Council -


"You do not represent Palestine as much as we do. Never forget this one point: There is no such thing as a Palestinian people, there is no Palestinian entity, there is only Syria. You are an integral part of the Syrian people, Palestine is an integral part of Syria. Therefore it is we, the Syrian authorities, who are the true representatives of the Palestinian people".

- Syrian dictator Hafez Assad to the PLO leader Yassir Arafat -


"As I lived in Palestine, everyone I knew could trace their heritage back to the original country their great grandparents came from. Everyone knew their origin was not from the Canaanites, but ironically, this is the kind of stuff our education in the Middle East included. The fact is that today's Palestinians are immigrants from the surrounding nations! I grew up well knowing the history and origins of today's Palestinians as being from Yemen, Saudi Arabia, Morocco, Christians from Greece, muslim Sherkas from Russia, muslims from Bosnia, and the Jordanians next door. My grandfather, who was a dignitary in Bethlehem, almost lost his life by Abdul Qader Al-Husseni (the leader of the Palestinian revolution) after being accused of selling land to Jews. He used to tell us that his village Beit Sahur (The Shepherds Fields) in Bethlehem County was empty before his father settled in the area with six other families. The town has now grown to 30,000 inhabitants".

- Ex-Palestinian terrorist

You are hilarious. Maps, postal stamps, historical texts and other sources demonstrate that the claimed non-existence of Palestine and Palestinians is Zionist propaganda. But everyone with a brain knows that the claims of the Zionists colonizing an "empty land" is pure Zionist propaganda.

Some americans feel a kinship with ethnic cleansers; we share a common tactic with those societies.

Ruddy is a Yemeni or Iranian, he's about as American as Zhou Enlai.

We have plenty without him. But Yemen? The same Yemen that our illegal cluster bombs, known to have a 90% collateral casualty rate in the field, rain down on once we pass them off to the Wahabist Saudis? That would be rather odd. But he is rather out of it, who knows.

 

[montelatici]

How about the map title being Suriye-vilayeti?

Like I said, his own "evidence" totally refutes his claim. Poor poor Monte the fraudster.

What other Arabs declared after the Six-Day War:

"There are no differences between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. We are all part of one nation. It is only for political reasons that we carefully underline our Palestinian identity... yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity serves only tactical purposes. The founding of a Palestinian state is a new tool in the continuing battle against Israel".

- Zuhair Muhsin, military commander of the PLO and member of the PLO Executive Council -


"You do not represent Palestine as much as we do. Never forget this one point: There is no such thing as a Palestinian people, there is no Palestinian entity, there is only Syria. You are an integral part of the Syrian people, Palestine is an integral part of Syria. Therefore it is we, the Syrian authorities, who are the true representatives of the Palestinian people".

- Syrian dictator Hafez Assad to the PLO leader Yassir Arafat -


"As I lived in Palestine, everyone I knew could trace their heritage back to the original country their great grandparents came from. Everyone knew their origin was not from the Canaanites, but ironically, this is the kind of stuff our education in the Middle East included. The fact is that today's Palestinians are immigrants from the surrounding nations! I grew up well knowing the history and origins of today's Palestinians as being from Yemen, Saudi Arabia, Morocco, Christians from Greece, muslim Sherkas from Russia, muslims from Bosnia, and the Jordanians next door. My grandfather, who was a dignitary in Bethlehem, almost lost his life by Abdul Qader Al-Husseni (the leader of the Palestinian revolution) after being accused of selling land to Jews. He used to tell us that his village Beit Sahur (The Shepherds Fields) in Bethlehem County was empty before his father settled in the area with six other families. The town has now grown to 30,000 inhabitants".

- Ex-Palestinian terrorist

You are hilarious. Maps, postal stamps, historical texts and other sources demonstrate that the claimed non-existence of Palestine and Palestinians is Zionist propaganda. But everyone with a brain knows that the claims of the Zionists colonizing an "empty land" is pure Zionist propaganda.

Some americans feel a kinship with ethnic cleansers; we share a common tactic with those societies.

Ruddy is a Yemeni or Iranian, he's about as American as Zhou Enlai.

We have plenty without him. But Yemen? The same Yemen that our illegal cluster bombs, known to have a 90% collateral casualty rate in the field, rain down on once we pass them off to the Wahabist Saudis? That would be rather odd. But he is rather out of it, who knows.

He is a Jew from one of those places. Maybe Iran more than Yemen.

 

[Hossfly]

Like I said, his own "evidence" totally refutes his claim. Poor poor Monte the fraudster.

What other Arabs declared after the Six-Day War:

"There are no differences between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. We are all part of one nation. It is only for political reasons that we carefully underline our Palestinian identity... yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity serves only tactical purposes. The founding of a Palestinian state is a new tool in the continuing battle against Israel".

- Zuhair Muhsin, military commander of the PLO and member of the PLO Executive Council -


"You do not represent Palestine as much as we do. Never forget this one point: There is no such thing as a Palestinian people, there is no Palestinian entity, there is only Syria. You are an integral part of the Syrian people, Palestine is an integral part of Syria. Therefore it is we, the Syrian authorities, who are the true representatives of the Palestinian people".

- Syrian dictator Hafez Assad to the PLO leader Yassir Arafat -


"As I lived in Palestine, everyone I knew could trace their heritage back to the original country their great grandparents came from. Everyone knew their origin was not from the Canaanites, but ironically, this is the kind of stuff our education in the Middle East included. The fact is that today's Palestinians are immigrants from the surrounding nations! I grew up well knowing the history and origins of today's Palestinians as being from Yemen, Saudi Arabia, Morocco, Christians from Greece, muslim Sherkas from Russia, muslims from Bosnia, and the Jordanians next door. My grandfather, who was a dignitary in Bethlehem, almost lost his life by Abdul Qader Al-Husseni (the leader of the Palestinian revolution) after being accused of selling land to Jews. He used to tell us that his village Beit Sahur (The Shepherds Fields) in Bethlehem County was empty before his father settled in the area with six other families. The town has now grown to 30,000 inhabitants".

- Ex-Palestinian terrorist

You are hilarious. Maps, postal stamps, historical texts and other sources demonstrate that the claimed non-existence of Palestine and Palestinians is Zionist propaganda. But everyone with a brain knows that the claims of the Zionists colonizing an "empty land" is pure Zionist propaganda.

Some americans feel a kinship with ethnic cleansers; we share a common tactic with those societies.

Ruddy is a Yemeni or Iranian, he's about as American as Zhou Enlai.

We have plenty without him. But Yemen? The same Yemen that our illegal cluster bombs, known to have a 90% collateral casualty rate in the field, rain down on once we pass them off to the Wahabist Saudis? That would be rather odd. But he is rather out of it, who knows.

He is a Jew from one of those places. Maybe Iran more than Yemen.

You must work with Inspector Clouseau. Guess again.

 

[Fenton Lum]

Like I said, his own "evidence" totally refutes his claim. Poor poor Monte the fraudster.

What other Arabs declared after the Six-Day War:

"There are no differences between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. We are all part of one nation. It is only for political reasons that we carefully underline our Palestinian identity... yes, the existence of a separate Palestinian identity serves only tactical purposes. The founding of a Palestinian state is a new tool in the continuing battle against Israel".

- Zuhair Muhsin, military commander of the PLO and member of the PLO Executive Council -


"You do not represent Palestine as much as we do. Never forget this one point: There is no such thing as a Palestinian people, there is no Palestinian entity, there is only Syria. You are an integral part of the Syrian people, Palestine is an integral part of Syria. Therefore it is we, the Syrian authorities, who are the true representatives of the Palestinian people".

- Syrian dictator Hafez Assad to the PLO leader Yassir Arafat -


"As I lived in Palestine, everyone I knew could trace their heritage back to the original country their great grandparents came from. Everyone knew their origin was not from the Canaanites, but ironically, this is the kind of stuff our education in the Middle East included. The fact is that today's Palestinians are immigrants from the surrounding nations! I grew up well knowing the history and origins of today's Palestinians as being from Yemen, Saudi Arabia, Morocco, Christians from Greece, muslim Sherkas from Russia, muslims from Bosnia, and the Jordanians next door. My grandfather, who was a dignitary in Bethlehem, almost lost his life by Abdul Qader Al-Husseni (the leader of the Palestinian revolution) after being accused of selling land to Jews. He used to tell us that his village Beit Sahur (The Shepherds Fields) in Bethlehem County was empty before his father settled in the area with six other families. The town has now grown to 30,000 inhabitants".

- Ex-Palestinian terrorist

You are hilarious. Maps, postal stamps, historical texts and other sources demonstrate that the claimed non-existence of Palestine and Palestinians is Zionist propaganda. But everyone with a brain knows that the claims of the Zionists colonizing an "empty land" is pure Zionist propaganda.

Some americans feel a kinship with ethnic cleansers; we share a common tactic with those societies.

Ruddy is a Yemeni or Iranian, he's about as American as Zhou Enlai.

We have plenty without him. But Yemen? The same Yemen that our illegal cluster bombs, known to have a 90% collateral casualty rate in the field, rain down on once we pass them off to the Wahabist Saudis? That would be rather odd. But he is rather out of it, who knows.

He is a Jew from one of those places. Maybe Iran more than Yemen.

No matter, he embraces genocide.

 

[montelatici]

You are hilarious. Maps, postal stamps, historical texts and other sources demonstrate that the claimed non-existence of Palestine and Palestinians is Zionist propaganda. But everyone with a brain knows that the claims of the Zionists colonizing an "empty land" is pure Zionist propaganda.

Some americans feel a kinship with ethnic cleansers; we share a common tactic with those societies.

Ruddy is a Yemeni or Iranian, he's about as American as Zhou Enlai.

We have plenty without him. But Yemen? The same Yemen that our illegal cluster bombs, known to have a 90% collateral casualty rate in the field, rain down on once we pass them off to the Wahabist Saudis? That would be rather odd. But he is rather out of it, who knows.

He is a Jew from one of those places. Maybe Iran more than Yemen.

No matter, he embraces genocide.

Yes, the once persecuted often adopt the behavior of their persecutors. In this case, the Nazis.