Arab "palestinians": wer'e "indigenous" INVADERS / IMMIGRANTS in Jews' land (radicals: wish to ethnic cleanse non-Arabs expel or exterminate infidels)

[Sherlock Holmes]

Again not a single word of truth in your post. Your false claim

"The Zionists and the British conspired to expel Palestinians to make room for Jews to migrate there, this was an active discussion topic between them even as early as 1919."

is in no way validated by this quote. The League of Nation's mandate for Palestine, under which the British operated, called for the establishment on a homeland for the Jews but without harming the interests of the Arabs (Palestinians as a people had not yet been invented) and this is a discussion of how to do it.

The document I showed you is from 1919 and uses the phrase Palestinian Arabs so actually the term was in use.

You are of course free to jump through hoops, hand wave and other desperate attempts to obfuscate and interpret the text any way you wish, I will leave it to the open minded readers to decide for themselves and to help them I'll shares the documents too that talk about ethnic cleansing:

ETHNIC CLEANSING
• Weizmann and Rothschild discuss the ethnically cleansing of Palestine, 1919
• Weizmann: Zionist state should reach the Jordan by 1921, then expand beyond it
• 1941 meeting of top Zionist leaders in which the takover and ethnic cleansing of Palestine is reaffirmed
• Meinertzhagen
• Deir Yassin
• An example of a forced march: The Wadi Araba incident, June, 1950

Note, the third link:

The meeting is remarkable for the manner in which these people who were enforcing their vision upon Palestine first professed the conviction that everyone in the proposed Jewish state would be equal, and then went on to insist that non-Jews must first be ethnically cleansed.

and

[Robert Waley] Cohen found the scheme dangerous “for everyone concerned”, submitting that the Zionists were “starting with the kind of aims with which Hitler had started”, and which “seemed to be based on one religion and one race”. Cohen did not stop there: he suggested that if a state with equality for everyone were indeed intended, the state should be named with a neutral geographic term such as ‘Palestine’, not a religious name that denoted “one the basis of race or religion”.

Here you are again trying to twist the facts to justify the ongoing efforts of Palestinians to eradicate Jews from the ME.

I'm supplying source material and there's no doubt that ethnic cleansing was carried out and planned, planned far earlier though than most people suspected.

The Zionist lying has gone on far too long, the attempts to stifle open discussion by crying "antisemite" and "Holocaust" every time a lie gets exposed, have gone on far too long.

Zionism is a clone of the Third Reich, so said a Jew

 

[surada]

From the British archives:

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Read it for yourself, deny it if you must, truth is often unwelcome to the xenophobic mind when it reveals their true nature.



In modern parlance lets plan to ethically cleanse Palestinians to make way for Jews, and this is dated 1919 - twenty years before WW2, twenty years before any Holocaust, nineteen years before Kristallnacht.


The document I showed you is from 1919 and uses the phrase Palestinian Arabs so actually the term was in use.

You are of course free to jump through hoops and interpret the text any way you wish, I will leave it to the open minded readers to decide for themselves and to help them I'll shares the documents too that talk about ethnic cleansing:

ETHNIC CLEANSING
• Weizmann and Rothschild discuss the ethnically cleansing of Palestine, 1919
• Weizmann: Zionist state should reach the Jordan by 1921, then expand beyond it
• 1941 meeting of top Zionist leaders in which the takover and ethnic cleansing of Palestine is reaffirmed
• Meinertzhagen
• Deir Yassin
• An example of a forced march: The Wadi Araba incident, June, 1950

Note, the third link:


and



I'm supplying source material and there's no doubt that ethnic cleansing was carried out and planned, planned far earlier though than most people suspected.

The Zionist lying has gone on far too long, the attempts to stifle open discussion by crying "antisemite" and "Holocaust" every time a lie gets exposed, have gone on far too long.

A lot of Palestinians worked in Arabia in the early 1950s. They were called Palestinians..or Palestinian Arabs to differentiate them from Saudi Arabs or Kuwaiti Arabs or Emiraties etc.

 

[toomuchtime_]

From the British archives:

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Read it for yourself, deny it if you must, truth is often unwelcome to the xenophobic mind when it reveals their true nature.



In modern parlance lets plan to ethically cleanse Palestinians to make way for Jews, and this is dated 1919 - twenty years before WW2, twenty years before any Holocaust, nineteen years before Kristallnacht.


The document I showed you is from 1919 and uses the phrase Palestinian Arabs so actually the term was in use.

You are of course free to jump through hoops and interpret the text any way you wish, I will leave it to the open minded readers to decide for themselves and to help them I'll shares the documents too that talk about ethnic cleansing:

ETHNIC CLEANSING
• Weizmann and Rothschild discuss the ethnically cleansing of Palestine, 1919
• Weizmann: Zionist state should reach the Jordan by 1921, then expand beyond it
• 1941 meeting of top Zionist leaders in which the takover and ethnic cleansing of Palestine is reaffirmed
• Meinertzhagen
• Deir Yassin
• An example of a forced march: The Wadi Araba incident, June, 1950

Note, the third link:




I'm supplying source material and there's no doubt that ethnic cleansing was carried out and planned, planned far earlier though than most people suspected.

What you showed was a discussion of how to carry out the League of Nations order to create a Jewish Homeland in Palestine without harming the interests of the Arabs living there. Clearly, no plans of any kind were made. In 1919, everyone who lived in Palestine was called a Palestinian, so the term Palestinian Arab simply meant Arabs who lived in Palestine to distinguish them from Palestinians who were Jewish or other nationality. The concept of Palestinians as a people had not yet been invented.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

What you showed was a discussion of how to carry out the League of Nations order to create a Jewish Homeland in Palestine without harming the interests of the Arabs living there. Clearly, no plans of any kind were made. In 1919, everyone who lived in Palestine was called a Palestinian, so the term Palestinian Arab simply meant Arabs who lived in Palestine to distinguish them from Palestinians who were Jewish or other nationality. The concept of Palestinians as a people had not yet been invented.

You are now adopting the exact same strategy as the Holocaust deniers, insisting that what is obvious is in fact a tragic misinterpretation, that no crimes were planned, no ethnic cleansing discussed, no prejudice against Palestinians took place, it is a misunderstanding, even lies designed to portray the unremarkable as something terrible.

Holocaust denial is any attempt to negate the established facts of the Nazi genocide of European Jews. Holocaust denial and distortion are forms of antisemitism, prejudice against or hatred of Jews. Holocaust denial and distortion generally claim that the Holocaust was invented or exaggerated by Jews as part of a plot to advance Jewish interests.

Here, let's adjust this to that it describes what Zionist routinely do:

Genocide denial is any attempt to negate the established facts of the Gaza genocide of Palestinians. Genocide denial and distortion are forms of antiarabism, prejudice against or hatred of Arabs and Palestinians. Genocide denial and distortion generally claim that the Genocide is invented or exaggerated by Palestinians as part of a plot to advance Muslim interests.

Source.

 

[toomuchtime_]

You are now adopting the exact same strategy as the Holocaust deniers, insisting that what is obvious is in fact a tragic misinterpretation, that no crimes were planned, no ethnic cleansing discussed, no prejudice against Palestinians took place, it is a misunderstanding, even lies designed to portray the unremarkable as something terrible.



Here, let's adjust this to that it describes what Zionist routinely do:



Source.

Your posts get crazier and crazier. There is nothing in the pages you presented that showed anything but a discussion of how to implement the League of Nations' requirement that Britain create a homeland for the Jews in Palestine without harming the interests of the Arabs living there.

 

[Sayaras]

The Zionists and the British conspired to expel Palestinians to make room for Jews to migrate there, this was an active discussion topic between them even as early as 1919.

What is the [historic] connection between Arab settlers and the land?

 

[surada]

What you showed was a discussion of how to carry out the League of Nations order to create a Jewish Homeland in Palestine without harming the interests of the Arabs living there. Clearly, no plans of any kind were made. In 1919, everyone who lived in Palestine was called a Palestinian, so the term Palestinian Arab simply meant Arabs who lived in Palestine to distinguish them from Palestinians who were Jewish or other nationality. The concept of Palestinians as a people had not yet been invented.

The majority of Palestinians were Muslim or Christian.

 

[surada]

What is the [historic] connection between Arab settlers and the land?

The Arabs aren't settlers. They didn't immigrate from Europe or Russia. Many are descended from Jewish farmers who didn't leave. Syria is Arab. Since 500 BC Palestine has been a province of southern Syria. See Greek historian Herodotus .

 

[surada]

Your posts get crazier and crazier. There is nothing in the pages you presented that showed anything but a discussion of how to implement the League of Nations' requirement that Britain create a homeland for the Jews in Palestine without harming the interests of the Arabs living there.

The terms expressed in the Mandate were that the rights and property of the indigenous people weren't to be trampled.

 

[surada]

The document I showed you is from 1919 and uses the phrase Palestinian Arabs so actually the term was in use.

You are of course free to jump through hoops, hand wave and other desperate attempts to obfuscate and interpret the text any way you wish, I will leave it to the open minded readers to decide for themselves and to help them I'll shares the documents too that talk about ethnic cleansing:

ETHNIC CLEANSING
• Weizmann and Rothschild discuss the ethnically cleansing of Palestine, 1919
• Weizmann: Zionist state should reach the Jordan by 1921, then expand beyond it
• 1941 meeting of top Zionist leaders in which the takover and ethnic cleansing of Palestine is reaffirmed
• Meinertzhagen
• Deir Yassin
• An example of a forced march: The Wadi Araba incident, June, 1950

Note, the third link:


and



I'm supplying source material and there's no doubt that ethnic cleansing was carried out and planned, planned far earlier though than most people suspected.

The Zionist lying has gone on far too long, the attempts to stifle open discussion by crying "antisemite" and "Holocaust" every time a lie gets exposed, have gone on far too long.

Zionism is a clone of the Third Reich, so said a Jew

The Many Civil and Human Rights Challenges Facing Israel’s Palestinian Citizens

PCIs, who are among Israel’s most marginalized minorities, have experienced even more violence and racism after the October 7 Hamas attacks.

carnegieendowment.org

Though three-quarters of Palestinians were forced out of lands that became Israel in 1948, 150,000 were allowed to remain and were granted citizenship. They now account for approximately 20 percent of Israel’s population. A majority live in villages and cities segregated from Jewish society, while only about 8 percent live in mixed, Jewish-Palestinian cities.

PCIs are among Israel’s most marginalized minorities. Israel does not have a constitution that guarantees equality for all before the law. Instead, important privileges and rights are conferred based on nationality. For example, an Israeli law passed in 2018 declared that only Jewish people have a right to self-determination and that Arabic is not an official language, despite its indigeneity. Even discussing the Palestinian history of displacement and dispossession in public entities, including schools, risks the loss of state funding under legislation popularly known as the Nakba law.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

The Many Civil and Human Rights Challenges Facing Israel’s Palestinian Citizens

PCIs, who are among Israel’s most marginalized minorities, have experienced even more violence and racism after the October 7 Hamas attacks.

carnegieendowment.org

Though three-quarters of Palestinians were forced out of lands that became Israel in 1948, 150,000 were allowed to remain and were granted citizenship. They now account for approximately 20 percent of Israel’s population. A majority live in villages and cities segregated from Jewish society, while only about 8 percent live in mixed, Jewish-Palestinian cities.

PCIs are among Israel’s most marginalized minorities. Israel does not have a constitution that guarantees equality for all before the law. Instead, important privileges and rights are conferred based on nationality. For example, an Israeli law passed in 2018 declared that only Jewish people have a right to self-determination and that Arabic is not an official language, despite its indigeneity. Even discussing the Palestinian history of displacement and dispossession in public entities, including schools, risks the loss of state funding under legislation popularly known as the Nakba law.

Exactly, Israel is not and does not want to be an egalitarian society, which incidentally, Palestine was before Zionism took hold.

 

[Shusha]

The Many Civil and Human Rights Challenges Facing Israel’s Palestinian Citizens

PCIs, who are among Israel’s most marginalized minorities, have experienced even more violence and racism after the October 7 Hamas attacks.

carnegieendowment.org

Though three-quarters of Palestinians were forced out of lands that became Israel in 1948, 150,000 were allowed to remain and were granted citizenship. They now account for approximately 20 percent of Israel’s population. A majority live in villages and cities segregated from Jewish society, while only about 8 percent live in mixed, Jewish-Palestinian cities.

PCIs are among Israel’s most marginalized minorities. Israel does not have a constitution that guarantees equality for all before the law. Instead, important privileges and rights are conferred based on nationality. For example, an Israeli law passed in 2018 declared that only Jewish people have a right to self-determination and that Arabic is not an official language, despite its indigeneity. Even discussing the Palestinian history of displacement and dispossession in public entities, including schools, risks the loss of state funding under legislation popularly known as the Nakba law.

Are you also calling for the recognition of the Jewish right to self-determination in Gaza? Are you also calling for Hebrew to be an official language in Gaza? Do you also recognize Jewish indigeneity? And do you call for the people of Gaza to commemorate the Holocaust, Israel's War of Independence, and the October 7 Atrocity? Is this the standard for all people and all states?

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Are you also calling for the recognition of the Jewish right to self-determination in Gaza? Are you also calling for Hebrew to be an official language in Gaza? Do you also recognize Jewish indigeneity? And do you call for the people of Gaza to commemorate the Holocaust, Israel's War of Independence, and the October 7 Atrocity? Is this the standard for all people and all states?

He didn't "call" for anything he just posted an accurate summary of Israel racist practices.

 

[surada]

Are you also calling for the recognition of the Jewish right to self-determination in Gaza? Are you also calling for Hebrew to be an official language in Gaza? Do you also recognize Jewish indigeneity? And do you call for the people of Gaza to commemorate the Holocaust, Israel's War of Independence, and the October 7 Atrocity? Is this the standard for all people and all states?

The US paid 5000 Jewish settlers a lot of money to leave Gaza. $250,000 for some families. Some were paid up to $400,000.

 

[rylah]

From the British archives:

View attachment 972188

Read it for yourself, deny it if you must, truth is often unwelcome to the xenophobic mind when it reveals their true nature.



In modern parlance lets plan to ethically cleanse Palestinians to make way for Jews, and this is dated 1919 - twenty years before WW2, twenty years before any Holocaust, nineteen years before Kristallnacht.

How come you don't know about this? how can you claim to understand this issue when there are such huge gaps in your knowledge?

Moving Palestinians into Egypt has been a dream from the outset of this fanaticism, even a few months ago Knesset members were openly suggesting it, not a new idea.

The Zionists are colonizers, racists and terrorists, all of the history is consistent with this understanding. It was and is a curse on the entire region Jew and Palestinian alike, it has resulted in a mess that no Jew or Palestinian can clean up, war, death and misery is all it ever brough and all it ever will bring.

Only an outside authority can resolve this.

Which actually proves the opposite.

Is selective quoting out of context,
strongest defence for the agenda,
or admition of weakness?

The quote shows it wasn't a British-Zionist "conspiracy",
but a legal enterprise between Jews and Arabs,
before the even British arrived.

Also it were Jews who asked for humanitarian
alternatives for tenant peasants - not the Arab feudals.

 

[toomuchtime_]

The US paid 5000 Jewish settlers a lot of money to leave Gaza. $250,000 for some families. Some were paid up to $400,000.

No matter how many times you repeat it, it is still a lie.

 

[rylah]

Ludicrous, reminds me of how the Nazis justified their invasion of Europe and the Soviet Union because of what the Bolsheviks "were planning to do" what the Bolsheviks, Communists were planning in secret.

The Zionists and the British conspired to expel Palestinians to make room for Jews to migrate there, this was an active discussion topic between them even as early as 1919.

Do you have any self awareness?

 

[rylah]

The Arabs fought with the British to oust the Ottomans.

Zionists killed over 600 British peacekeepers.

Word laundering is your best defense of Islamist degeneracy?

Ok, so Arab imperialists joined British imperialists,
motivated by greed for exclusive domination
over the entire Middle East - and lost to a
minority of skin and bones Jews.

How many British "peacekeepers"
did the Arab imperialists kill
along that "alliance"?

 

[Shusha]

The US paid 5000 Jewish settlers a lot of money to leave Gaza. $250,000 for some families. Some were paid up to $400,000.

You didn't answer my questions.

 

[Pastelli]

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Hamas leader Fathi Hamad, then serving as Gaza Minister of Interior and National Security, stated in a 2012 interview with Al-Hekma TV that all Palestinians have Arab origins. According to Hamad, half of Gaza's population has Egyptian roots, while the other half originates from Saudi Arabia and Yemen.

Hamas Minister of the Interior and of National Security Fathi Hammad Slams Egypt over Fuel Shortage in Gaza Strip, and Says: "Half of the Palestinians Are Egyptians and the Other Half Are Saudis"

MEMRI's archive of Middle East reports includes translations, Special Dispatches, and Inquiry and Analysis papers from and about media and events in the region on a wide range of topics, from 1998 to the present.

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The origin of Palestinians

Fathi Hammad (Hamas Interior Minister):"We all have Arab roots and every Palestinian, in Gaza and throughout Palestine, can prove his Arab roots- whether fro...

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Lissak, R. S. (2021). When and How the Arabs and Muslims Immigrated to the Land of Israel—Period of British Rule, 1918–1948: Volume Two. United Kingdom: Xlibris US.

When and How the Arabs and Muslims Immigrated to the Land of Israel—Period of British Rule, 1918–1948

The Palestinian National Movement and its Palestine Authority aim to rewrite the history of the Land of Israel. They have developed several agendas about the history of the country. One agenda claims that they are the ancient population of the country they call Falstin (Palestine). The other...

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The Palestinian National Movement and its Palestine Authority aim to rewrite the history of the Land of Israel. They have developed several agendas about the history of the country. One agenda claims that they are the ancient population of the country they call Falstin (Palestine). The other claims said they settled in the country in 640; they have a history of 1,381 years. The Jews, they say, have no historical claim on that country; but another agenda claims that Jews did populate the country, but the Romans conquers never exiled the Jews two thousand years ago. The Jews converted to Islam during the Arab-Muslim occupation of the country (640–1099) and that the Palestinians are the descendants of these Jews and, therefore, the rightful heirs of the country. But the historical facts tell a different story. This book is the second volume of When and How the Arabs and Muslims Immigrated to the Land of Israel. The first volume deals with 640–1914 and brings evidence that most Palestinians are descendants of immigrants who came to the country from Arab and Muslim countries in small numbers during a slow process over hundreds of years; and between the end of the nineteenth century and First World War, their number grew by immigrant workers. This volume brings evidence that under the British Mandate rule (1918–1948), waves of Arab/Muslim immigrant workers entered the country illegally because of the British policy to ignore illegal immigration. The British mandate government actually ordered the Transjordan army responsible for controlling the borders to ignore illegal immigration. Also, the British Army brought Arab workers from Egypt, Syria, and Lebanon to build and work in their camps. The economic and employment opportunities created by the Zionist Movement, Jewish investors and immigrants, Christian organizations, and the British Mandate in the Land of Israel drew an increasing number of Arab immigrant workers. These opportunities were much better than those they had in their home countries.

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Edwardsson, P. L. (2020). There's No Such Thing as a Palestinian. (n.p.): Amazon Digital Services LLC - KDP Print US.

There's No Such Thing as a Palestinian

Our whole world is perennially obsessed with the Arab-Israeli conflict. The issue will not just go away. Even more astonishing is that an issue on which the whole planet seems to be focused is so poorly understood in modern society, and no matter where you live (even if you live in Israel!)...

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Our whole world is perennially obsessed with the Arab-Israeli conflict. The issue will not just go away. Even more astonishing is that an issue on which the whole planet seems to be focused is so poorly understood in modern society, and no matter where you live (even if you live in Israel!), your government, media and educational institutions have been no help to you at all in allowing you to understand the history and current dynamic of this bloody conflict.The current wisdom widely holds that Israel is currently occupying an ancient land called Palestine, and that the Israelis forcibly moved the indigenous people from their ancient homeland - but is there any truth to that claim? What if Palestine were indeed the ancient homeland of the Jews? What if Palestinians were relative late-comers to the land? What if there really were no such thing as a Palestinian at all?In this book, author P.L. Edwardsson reveals the history behind this seemingly endless Middle East conflict. Far from revealing a deeply hidden historical secret, There's No Such Thing as a Palestinian will present the mind-blowingly straightforward facts that could be confirmed in a single afternoon spent at a public library - but which mainstream society persistently ignores.If you consider yourself to be a news-junkie, you will be surprised to learn that the media narrative about the Palestinians and their conflict with the Jews is as far removed from reality as night is from day.There's No Such Thing as a Palestinian will be a breakthrough in your understanding of this seemingly endless news item. At last, you will find that this issue is not complicated at all. Once you find out the one small secret that this book reveals, the Arab-Israeli conflict is as straightforward as it is destructive.

Great post.