It was never called "Palestine"!!

[Luddly Neddite]

What have ye to do with me, O Tyre, and Sidon,
and all the coasts of Palestine? (Joel 3:4a = 4:4a Heb)

The people shall hear, and be afraid;
sorrow shall take hold of the inhabitants of Palestina.
(Exod 15:14)


Rejoice not thou, whole Palestina ... (Isa 14:29a)

Howl, O gate; cry, O city,
thou whole Palestina, art dissolved. (Isa 14:31a)

The one mistranslated King James Version. There was no Palestine during Jesus' time, that is a fact. Besides we are talking about the last thousand years of Arab / Ottoman rule. Keep up, idiot.

Wow. So only countries that have the same name now as they had 2000 years ago are what?

Legit countries?

So, where is this rule written down?

Or, did you just now make it up?

TIA for the info.




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[Indeependent]

What have ye to do with me, O Tyre, and Sidon,
and all the coasts of Palestine? (Joel 3:4a = 4:4a Heb)

The people shall hear, and be afraid;
sorrow shall take hold of the inhabitants of Palestina.
(Exod 15:14)


Rejoice not thou, whole Palestina ... (Isa 14:29a)

Howl, O gate; cry, O city,
thou whole Palestina, art dissolved. (Isa 14:31a)

The one mistranslated King James Version. There was no Palestine during Jesus' time, that is a fact. Besides we are talking about the last thousand years of Arab / Ottoman rule. Keep up, idiot.

Wow. So only countries that have the same name now as they had 2000 years ago are what?

Legit countries?

So, where is this rule written down?

Or, did you just now make it up?

TIA for the info.




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How stupid are you?
The P'lishtim were conquered and kicked out by King David.
Try reading some history.

 

[paperview]

Josephus [AD/CE 35–100]
Antiquities 8.10.3 [260] — "Now Herodotus of Halicarnassus mentions this expedition, having only mistaken the king's name; and [in saying that] he made war upon many other nations also, and brought Syria of Palestine into subjection, and took the men that were therein prisoners without fighting."

Contra Apion 1.2 [169, 171] — "His [Herodotus'] words are these: 'The only people who were circumcised in their privy members originally were the Colchians, the Egytpians, and the Ethiopians; but the Phoenicians and those Syrians that are in Palestine confess that they learned it from the Egyptians.' ... This, therefore, is what Herodotus says, that the 'Syrians that are in Palestine are circumcised.' But there are no inhabitants of Palestine that are circumcised excepting the Jews; and therefore it must be his knowledge of them that enabled him to speak so much concerning them."



Herodotus [c. 484–c. 425]
Histories 1.105.1 — "From there they marched against Egypt: and when they were in the part of Syria called Palestine, Psalmmetichus king of Egypt met them and persuaded them with gifts and prayers to come no further." [Eng. trans. A.D. Godley]


Histories 2.104.3 — "The Phoenicians and the Syrians of Palestine acknowledge that they learned the custom from the Egyptians, and the Syrians of the valleys of Thermodon and the Parthenius, as well as their neighbors the Macrones, say that they learned it from the Colchians. These are the only nations that circumcise, and it is seen that they do just as the Egyptians." [Eng. trans. A.D. Godley]

Histories 3.5.1 — "Now the only apparent way of entry into Egypt is this. The road runs from Phoenicia as far as the borders of the city of Cadytis, which belongs to the so-called Syrians of Palestine." [Eng. trans. A.D. Godley]

Histories 7.89.1-2 — "The number of the triremes was twelve hundred and seve, and they were furnished by the following: the Phoenicians with the Syrians of Palestine furnished three hundred . . . These Phoenicians formerly dwelt, as they themselves say, by the Red Sea; they crossed from there and now inhabit the seacoast of Syria. This part of Syria as far as Egypt is all called Palestine." [Eng. trans. A.D. Godley]

 

[Roudy]

What have ye to do with me, O Tyre, and Sidon,
and all the coasts of Palestine? (Joel 3:4a = 4:4a Heb)

The people shall hear, and be afraid;
sorrow shall take hold of the inhabitants of Palestina.
(Exod 15:14)


Rejoice not thou, whole Palestina ... (Isa 14:29a)

Howl, O gate; cry, O city,
thou whole Palestina, art dissolved. (Isa 14:31a)

The one mistranslated King James Version. There was no Palestine during Jesus' time, that is a fact. Besides we are talking about the last thousand years of Arab / Ottoman rule. Keep up, idiot.

Wow. So only countries that have the same name now as they had 2000 years ago are what?

Legit countries?

So, where is this rule written down?

Or, did you just now make it up?

TIA for the info.




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Did I say that, retard? Read the OP, the region has not been called Palestine by the Arabs or Ottomans for the last thousand years at least. No Palestine in the Bible either, those are mistranslations. So how do Arabs end up hijacking a European name for the region that they themselves refused to accept it themselves? Riddle me that.

 

[Indeependent]

What have ye to do with me, O Tyre, and Sidon,
and all the coasts of Palestine? (Joel 3:4a = 4:4a Heb)

The people shall hear, and be afraid;
sorrow shall take hold of the inhabitants of Palestina.
(Exod 15:14)


Rejoice not thou, whole Palestina ... (Isa 14:29a)

Howl, O gate; cry, O city,
thou whole Palestina, art dissolved. (Isa 14:31a)

The one mistranslated King James Version. There was no Palestine during Jesus' time, that is a fact. Besides we are talking about the last thousand years of Arab / Ottoman rule. Keep up, idiot.

Wow. So only countries that have the same name now as they had 2000 years ago are what?

Legit countries?

So, where is this rule written down?

Or, did you just now make it up?

TIA for the info.




Sent from my iPad using USMessageBoard.com

Did I say that, retard? Read the OP, the region has not been called Palestine by the Arabs or Ottomans for the last thousand years at least. No Palestine in the Bible either, those are mistranslations. So how do Arabs end up hijacking a European name for the region that they themselves refused to accept it themselves? Riddle me that.

What do you expect?
LN is a Liberal.
Never let facts get it the way of an emotion.

 

[Roudy]

Josephus [AD/CE 35–100]
Antiquities 8.10.3 [260] — "Now Herodotus of Halicarnassus mentions this expedition, having only mistaken the king's name; and [in saying that] he made war upon many other nations also, and brought Syria of Palestine into subjection, and took the men that were therein prisoners without fighting."

Contra Apion 1.2 [169, 171] — "His [Herodotus'] words are these: 'The only people who were circumcised in their privy members originally were the Colchians, the Egytpians, and the Ethiopians; but the Phoenicians and those Syrians that are in Palestine confess that they learned it from the Egyptians.' ... This, therefore, is what Herodotus says, that the 'Syrians that are in Palestine are circumcised.' But there are no inhabitants of Palestine that are circumcised excepting the Jews; and therefore it must be his knowledge of them that enabled him to speak so much concerning them."



Herodotus [c. 484–c. 425]
Histories 1.105.1 — "From there they marched against Egypt: and when they were in the part of Syria called Palestine, Psalmmetichus king of Egypt met them and persuaded them with gifts and prayers to come no further." [Eng. trans. A.D. Godley]


Histories 2.104.3 — "The Phoenicians and the Syrians of Palestine acknowledge that they learned the custom from the Egyptians, and the Syrians of the valleys of Thermodon and the Parthenius, as well as their neighbors the Macrones, say that they learned it from the Colchians. These are the only nations that circumcise, and it is seen that they do just as the Egyptians." [Eng. trans. A.D. Godley]

Histories 3.5.1 — "Now the only apparent way of entry into Egypt is this. The road runs from Phoenicia as far as the borders of the city of Cadytis, which belongs to the so-called Syrians of Palestine." [Eng. trans. A.D. Godley]

Histories 7.89.1-2 — "The number of the triremes was twelve hundred and seve, and they were furnished by the following: the Phoenicians with the Syrians of Palestine furnished three hundred . . . These Phoenicians formerly dwelt, as they themselves say, by the Red Sea; they crossed from there and now inhabit the seacoast of Syria. This part of Syria as far as Egypt is all called Palestine." [Eng. trans. A.D. Godley]

He was referring to Philistines, who were closer to Greeks and are extinct, not today's Arabs who called themselves Palestinians circa 1960's.

Do you have any proof that Arabs and Ottomans called it Palestine? Nothing? I thought so.

 

[paperview]

Thread title is a lie --

Timeline of the name "Palestine" - Wikipedia

and the OP is a first class whacked out noodle bug.

Have fun in your whacked out noodleland world.

Ta.

 

[Indeependent]

Thread title is a lie --

Timeline of the name "Palestine" - Wikipedia

and the OP is a first class whacked out noodle bug.

Have fun in your whacked out noodleland world.

Ta.

Did you even read the article?

 

[rylah]

Why do Greeks and Romans appear each time we mention 'Palestine'?

 

[Roudy]

Thread title is a lie --

Timeline of the name "Palestine" - Wikipedia

and the OP is a first class whacked out noodle bug.

Have fun in your whacked out noodleland world.

Ta.

Apparently dufus doesn't read it's own links:

• 1220: Jacques de Vitry, History of Jerusalem: "And there are three Palestines, which are parts of Greater Syria. The first is that whose capital is Jerusalem, and this part is specially named Judaea. The second is that whose capital is Caesarea Philippi, which includes all the country of the Philistines. The third is that whose capital is Scythopolis, which at this day is called Bethshan. Moreover, both the Arabias are parts of Syria: the first is that whose capital is Bostrum; the second is that whose capital is Petra in the Wilderness."[190]

Three Palestines, one who's capital is Petra, in other words Jordan, and other one who's capital is Jerusalem and is in JUDEA aka Jewish. Lemme see, what does that remind me of? Oh that's right....

 

[montelatici]

A 2005 Hasbara map used to make a point. Hilarious.

 

[Roudy]

A 2005 Hasbara map used to make a point. Hilarious.

No, the map coincides with the historian's interpretation of the mythical "Palestine".

 

[montelatici]

A 2005 Hasbara map used to make a point. Hilarious.

No, the map coincides with the historian's interpretation of the mythical "Palestine".

No it is a Hasbara propaganda drawing. It has been established that Palestine was called Palestine from the time of Herodotus thru the Roman period, the Crusader period thru the Ottoman period and, of course during the British period. So just give it up. Your silly attempt at eliminating the Palestinian people with propagada has failed.

 

[Hossfly]

A 2005 Hasbara map used to make a point. Hilarious.

No, the map coincides with the historian's interpretation of the mythical "Palestine".

No it is a Hasbara propaganda drawing. It has been established that Palestine was called Palestine from the time of Herodotus thru the Roman period, the Crusader period thru the Ottoman period and, of course during the British period. So just give it up. Your silly attempt at eliminating the Palestinian people with propagada has failed.

My siggie sez it all.

 

[Roudy]

A 2005 Hasbara map used to make a point. Hilarious.

No, the map coincides with the historian's interpretation of the mythical "Palestine".

No it is a Hasbara propaganda drawing. It has been established that Palestine was called Palestine from the time of Herodotus thru the Roman period, the Crusader period thru the Ottoman period and, of course during the British period. So just give it up. Your silly attempt at eliminating the Palestinian people with propagada has failed.

No you are spouting Islamist PaliNazi propaganda. It has been established that Palestine was considered Syria during the Ottoman and Arab empires. Herodotus and thru the Roman period, there were no Arabs, they were referring to the extinct Philistines having nothing to do with today's so called Arab Palestinians. The Romans, Crusaders, Arab Muslims, Ottomans and the British were all invaders of ancient Jewish land of Israel. Period. So just give it up. Your silly attempt at eliminating the Jewish people and the state they deserve to have with propaganda has failed.

 

[montelatici]

A 2005 Hasbara map used to make a point. Hilarious.

No, the map coincides with the historian's interpretation of the mythical "Palestine".

No it is a Hasbara propaganda drawing. It has been established that Palestine was called Palestine from the time of Herodotus thru the Roman period, the Crusader period thru the Ottoman period and, of course during the British period. So just give it up. Your silly attempt at eliminating the Palestinian people with propagada has failed.

No you are spouting Islamist PaliNazi propaganda. It has been established that Palestine was considered Syria during the Ottoman and Arab empires. Herodotus and thru the Roman period, there were no Arabs, they were referring to the extinct Philistines having nothing to do with today's so called Arab Palestinians. The Romans, Crusaders, Arab Muslims, Ottomans and the British were all invaders of ancient Jewish land of Israel. Period. So just give it up. Your silly attempt at eliminating the Jewish people and the state they deserve to have with propaganda has failed.

You have been proven wrong by the facts. Your propaganda doesn't work anymore.

 

[Roudy]

A 2005 Hasbara map used to make a point. Hilarious.

No, the map coincides with the historian's interpretation of the mythical "Palestine".

No it is a Hasbara propaganda drawing. It has been established that Palestine was called Palestine from the time of Herodotus thru the Roman period, the Crusader period thru the Ottoman period and, of course during the British period. So just give it up. Your silly attempt at eliminating the Palestinian people with propagada has failed.

No you are spouting Islamist PaliNazi propaganda. It has been established that Palestine was considered Syria during the Ottoman and Arab empires. Herodotus and thru the Roman period, there were no Arabs, they were referring to the extinct Philistines having nothing to do with today's so called Arab Palestinians. The Romans, Crusaders, Arab Muslims, Ottomans and the British were all invaders of ancient Jewish land of Israel. Period. So just give it up. Your silly attempt at eliminating the Jewish people and the state they deserve to have with propaganda has failed.

You have been proven wrong by the facts. Your propaganda doesn't work anymore.

You're talking about yourself. Good job.

 

[Synthaholic]

What a dumbass.


Historical maps of Palestine

1917 Newspaper:

Your own article says the land belongs to the Jews. And proves it historically. Thank you for your support! Ha ha ha.

I guess you didn't click the link.

 

[Indeependent]

What a dumbass.


Historical maps of Palestine

1917 Newspaper:

Your own article says the land belongs to the Jews. And proves it historically. Thank you for your support! Ha ha ha.

I guess you didn't click the link.

I did...
Showing a snapshot from a newspaper, out of context, proves nothing.

 

[montelatici]

What a dumbass.


Historical maps of Palestine

1917 Newspaper:

Your own article says the land belongs to the Jews. And proves it historically. Thank you for your support! Ha ha ha.

I guess you didn't click the link.

I did...
Showing a snapshot from a newspaper, out of context, proves nothing.

The Israel Firsters just can't handle the truth. The brainwashing has been too effective.