'It was heartbreaking': Naked zip-tied children dragged from homes in 'surreal' ICE raid

[Lisa558]

Citizens aren't only detained when they are suspected of committing a crime. They can be ziptied and stacked in a corner so they don't interfere with the arrest of someone else.

Nobody is stacked in a corner.

But yes, citizens can be detained with handcuffs or zip ties if they are suspected of doing something illegal.

 

[struth]

No, he was at his job.

Yeah, a job site. That's what I said.

 

[struth]

And by all accounts you have no issues with that.

Well, yeah why would I? If a cop was told an african-american male robbed a store, I'd have a major issue if they were detaining white women instead of looking for african-american males. Likewise, if they are looking for illegal aliens, it certainly makes sense to look for them at places were illegals often gather or work, and it's common knowledge that a large percentage come from latin american countries.

 

[Lisa558]

Well, yeah why would I? If a cop was told an african-american male robbed a store, I'd have a major issue if they were detaining white women instead of looking for african-american males. Likewise, if they are looking for illegal aliens, it certainly makes sense to look for them at places were illegals often gather or work, and it's common knowledge that a large percentage come from latin american countries.

I just wish the leftists showed as much concern for Jewish citizens being beat up on campus as they do for illegals aliens. They are bending over backwards to make it impossible to deport these scofflaws.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Again, the unique problem is that you can't start running in the middle of a campaign. Losing your initial candidate never works out.

Had Biden stepped aside in 2022, whoever won the primary would have beaten Trump easily.


Sure. In New York. Glad we have that settled.

Losing your initial candidate never works out.

Especially when the replacement is a clueless DEI candidate.

Sure. In New York.

Not.

 

[TimFitz]

Yes. I got no issue with using someone’s race as a way to describe them.

I’d have more of an issue with going into someones home without a warrant, but even then there are exceptions to needing one

you’re dodging and playing games again.

The issue is whether it is legal or right for law enforcement to lock people up based solely on the color of their skin.

You know that. You support racial profiling. But you dance around your support of the flagrantly race based Trump terror campaign.

But you then turn around and say that you would have an issue with ICE invading so,e one’s home without a warrant.

ICE never has warrants. But you’re still cheering for this facist thuggery.

 

[TimFitz]

You’ve been shown they aren’t

You haven’t shown anybody anything.

 

[TimFitz]

They haven’t come to my neighborhood because we’re not a hotbed of illegal aliens.

Jesse James robbed banks because that’s where the money was. Same thing.

And when they do, you will look the other way, and blame the victims, as you do now.

 

[80zephyr]

There is no excuse for violating people's Constitutional rights.

Exactly what the Democrats planned.

 

[Lisa558]

And when they do, you will look the other way, and blame the victims, as you do now.

Here’s a lib ^^^ who can’t argue the point, so he makes up false accusations.

 

[TimFitz]

you’re dodging and playing games again.

The issue is whether it is legal or right for law enforcement to lock people up based solely on the color of their skin.

You know that. You support racial profiling. But you dance around your support of the flagrantly race based Trump terror campaign.

Here’s a lib ^^^ who can’t argue the point, so he makes up false accusations.

You made all my points for me!

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Being forced to prove who you are for simply going to work or risk prison.

A US citizen construction worker was detained by ICE. Twice. Now he's suing.

An Alabama man was detained by ICE on two occasions at construction sites despite having a REAL ID proving his citizenship.

www.usatoday.com

 

[struth]

you’re dodging and playing games again.

The issue is whether it is legal or right for law enforcement to lock people up based solely on the color of their skin.

You know that. You support racial profiling. But you dance around your support of the flagrantly race based Trump terror campaign.

But you then turn around and say that you would have an issue with ICE invading so,e one’s home without a warrant.

ICE never has warrants. But you’re still cheering for this facist thuggery.

That's not the issue, because nobody is doing that.

Try again.

 

[struth]

You haven’t shown anybody anything.

You just don't want to accept reality and instead are living in a fantasy world

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/24pdf/25a169_5h25.pdf

Second, even if plaintiffs had standing, the Government has a fair prospect of succeeding on the Fourth Amendment issue. See Brignoni-Ponce, 422 U. S. 873; Arvizu, 534 U. S. 266; Application 22–30; Reply 9–14. To stop an individual for brief questioning about immigration status, the Government must have reasonable suspicion that the individual is illegally present in the United States. See Brignoni-Ponce, 422 U. S., at 880–882; Arvizu, 534 U. S., at 273; United States v. Sokolow, 490 U. S. 1, 7 (1989). Reasonable suspicion is a lesser requirement than probable cause and “considerably short” of the preponderance of the evidence standard. Arvizu, 534 U. S., at 274. Whether an officer has reasonable suspicion depends on the totality of the circumstances. BrignoniPonce, 422 U. S., at 885, n. 10; Arvizu, 534 U. S., at 273. Here, those circumstances include: that there is an extremely high number and percentage of illegal immigrants in the Los Angeles area; that those individuals tend to gather in certain locations to seek daily work; that those individuals often work in certain kinds of jobs, such as day labor, landscaping, agriculture, and construction, that do not require paperwork and are therefore especially attractive to illegal immigrants; and that many of those illegally in the Los Angeles area come from Mexico or Central America and do not speak much English. Cf. Brignoni-Ponce, 422 U. S., at 884–885 (listing “[a]ny number of factors” that contribute to reasonable suspicion of illegal presence). To be clear, apparent ethnicity alone cannot furnish reasonable suspicion; under this Court’s case law regarding immigration stops, however, it can be a 6 NOEM v. VASQUEZ PERDOMO KAVANAUGH, J., concurring “relevant factor” when considered along with other salient factors. Id., at 887. Under this Court’s precedents, not to mention common sense, those circumstances taken together can constitute at least reasonable suspicion of illegal presence in the United States. Importantly, reasonable suspicion means only that immigration officers may briefly stop the individual and inquire about immigration status. If the person is a U. S. citizen or otherwise lawfully in the United States, that individual will be free to go after the brief encounter. Only if the person is illegally in the United States may the stop lead to further immigration proceedings

 

[Rawley]

you’re dodging and playing games again.

The issue is whether it is legal or right for law enforcement to lock people up based solely on the color of their skin.

It isn't. Next.

 

[Lesh]

People are not colors, you racist douche!

**** yourself you asshole.

I was responding to a poster saying that anyone “hanging around” Home Depot with brown skin should be treated like a criminal.

Who’s the racist?

You

 

[struth]

**** yourself you asshole.

I was responding to a poster saying that anyone “hanging around” Home Depot with brown skin should be treated like a criminal.

Who’s the racist?

You

Link to someone saying hanging around home depot with brown shirt should be treated like a criminal.....

you seem to be the only one talking about brown people.

 

[TimFitz]

That's not the issue, because nobody is doing that.

Try again.

Repeating obvious lies does not make your case.

You support facism, racial profiling and dismiss due process, warrants and the rule of law.

All of these positions are anti American, and a disgrace to what our country is supposed to stand for.

But you seem eager to sacrifice principles in order to round up brown people and persecute them.

Own your disgrace. Because the Trump regime and its cultists are disgracing our country before the world.

No “shining city on a hill” persecutes minorities, or embraces Gestapo tactics and flagrant bigotry.

 

[struth]

Repeating obvious lies does not make your case.

You support facism, racial profiling and dismiss due process, warrants and the rule of law.

All of these positions are anti American, and a disgrace to what our country is supposed to stand for.

But you seem eager to sacrifice principles in order to round up brown people and persecute them.

Own your disgrace. Because the Trump regime and its cultists are disgracing our country before the world.

No “shining city on a hill” persecutes minorities, or embraces Gestapo tactics and flagrant bigotry.

Agreed…hence why you keep losing

 

[TimFitz]

Link to someone saying hanging around home depot with brown shirt should be treated like a criminal.....

you seem to be the only one talking about brown people.

That is exactly what ICE is doing.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/18/business/home-depot-ice-day-laborers#:~:text='Politics%2C%20protest%20and%20anti%2D,follow%20local%20and%20federal%20laws.