'It was heartbreaking': Naked zip-tied children dragged from homes in 'surreal' ICE raid

[struth]

There is no law that allows for citizens to be detained for doing nothing illegal.

The law says that law enforcement can detain someone so long as the officer has reasonable articulate suspicion that somerhing illegal is a foot

Doesn’t mean they’re suspicion was correct

Read Terry v Ohio

 

[Lisa558]

There is no law that allows for citizens to be detained for doing nothing illegal.

Citizens are detained and even arrested all the time under SUSPICION of doing something illegal.

Are we supposed to give special exemptions to people whose skin has a brownish tint?

 

[Deadstick]

There is no law that allows for citizens to be detained for doing nothing illegal.

Don't worry they will find one.

 

[Unkotare]

If someone has no ID and no money, they can be arrested for vagrancy.

 

[TimFitz]

Wrong. Otherwise the “brown people” who live in my neighborhood would be detained.

If you live in an area full of illegals, you’re at risk for being asked for your ID. Big whoop. I was pulled by a cop, and he asked for my ID. And I’m white.

ICE hasn’t come to your neighborhood.

if it does,you can be trusted to look the other way.

 

[Deadstick]

Citizens are detained and even arrested all the time under SUSPICION of doing something illegal.

Are we supposed to give special exemptions to people whose skin has a brownish tint?

I believe the Police in the US can stop someone on reasonable suspicion, the key word is reasonable, here in the UK the problem has been for many years black people being stopped by the Police is far too disproportionate.

 

[Zincwarrior]

If someone has no ID and no money, they can be arrested for vagrancy.

Er no.
1) If legal requirements are met, they may be detained until their identity is established. That is not a crime in itself.
2) vagrancy is the crime of not having a permanent job or home or resources. Having no money in your pocket does not establish vagrancy. Else children, joggers, old people walking, anyone without their ID would be chargeable under your plan.


The term vagrant is used to describe a person who moves from place to place without a permanent job, home, or material resources.

vagrant

www.law.cornell.edu

 

[TimFitz]

Yes it’s often Hispanics that come here illegally

That’s common knowledge

Is the your justification for racial profiling?

It isn’t as if the masked thugs are invading people’s homes and neighborhoods holding warrants.

 

[TimFitz]

Er no.
1) If legal requirements are met, they may be detained until their identity is established. That is not a crime in itself.
2) vagrancy is the crime of not having a permanent job or home or resources. Having no money in your pocket does not establish vagrancy. Else children, joggers, old people walking, anyone without their ID would be chargeable under your plan.


The term vagrant is used to describe a person who moves from place to place without a permanent job, home, or material resources.

vagrant

www.law.cornell.edu

They just make it up.

 

[pknopp]

The law says that law enforcement can detain someone so long as the officer has reasonable articulate suspicion that somerhing illegal is a foot

Doesn’t mean they’re suspicion was correct

Read Terry v Ohio

Being brown isn't a reasonable suspicion outside of the stephen Miller world.

 

[Lesh]

"Random" ? ...keep talking the more you say the more ignorant you look

Yes random. They pulled a middle of the night raid on an apartment bldg with no warrants and emptied the bldg.

They randomly detained EVERYONE.

 

[pknopp]

Citizens are detained and even arrested all the time under SUSPICION of doing something illegal.

Are we supposed to give special exemptions to people whose skin has a brownish tint?

He did nothing illegal.

 

[pknopp]

Don't worry they will find one.

And thumb their noses at the constitution.

 

[Unkotare]

Being brown isn't a reasonable suspicion outside of the stephen Miller world.

Leftists always reduce people to superficialities like a "color."

 

[Lesh]

Wrong. Otherwise the “brown people” who live in my neighborhood would be detained.

If you live in an area full of illegals, you’re at risk for being asked for your ID. Big whoop. I was pulled by a cop, and he asked for my ID. And I’m white.

So unless they hit all neighborhoods immediately it’s not happening?

Wrong as usual

 

[Lesh]

Citizens are detained and even arrested all the time under SUSPICION of doing something illegal.

Are we supposed to give special exemptions to people whose skin has a brownish tint?

Suspicion includes skin color?

Hmmm

 

[struth]

Is the your justification for racial profiling?

It isn’t as if the masked thugs are invading people’s homes and neighborhoods holding warrants.

Yes. I got no issue with using someone’s race as a way to describe them.

I’d have more of an issue with going into someones home without a warrant, but even then there are exceptions to needing one

 

[Lisa558]

ICE hasn’t come to your neighborhood.

if it does,you can be trusted to look the other way.

They haven’t come to my neighborhood because we’re not a hotbed of illegal aliens.

Jesse James robbed banks because that’s where the money was. Same thing.

 

[struth]

Being brown isn't a reasonable suspicion outside of the stephen Miller world.

No, maybe not in an of itself. But being brown, hanging out at known locations illegal go to find day labor might be

 

[struth]

And thumb their noses at the constitution.

You’ve been shown they aren’t