It seems so long ago, I had almost forgotten.

Stryder50 said:
BTW, there is a clause in the Constitution outlawing the import of slaves after 1808.
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Well, gosh. That was pretty brutal.

I mean breeding them like cattle and selling them as if they had no more rights than farm animals was so much more humane!

No wonder the people were singing the night they drove Old Dixie Down.
 
BlindBoo said:
Well, gosh. That was pretty brutal.

I mean breeding them like cattle and selling them as if they had no more rights than farm animals was so much more humane!

No wonder the people were singing the night they drove Old Dixie Down.
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The song was written by Canadians.

The Band. The Band - Wikipedia

To be far, I wouldn't expect any Dems that were actually owning slaves and fighting for the right to keep them, to be smart enough to write a song like that.
 
BlindBoo said:
Well, gosh. That was pretty brutal.

I mean breeding them like cattle and selling them as if they had no more rights than farm animals was so much more humane!

No wonder the people were singing the night they drove Old Dixie Down.
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It's a good thing a Republican President put and end the the Dimwinger Party slavery.
 
Papageorgio said:
People like Trump and Buffett amd Bill Gates pay little to no taxes because Congress, both Democrat and Republicans write laws to benefit the rich.
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Critics of Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) have lined up to paint her proposed 70 percent tax rate on income above $10 million as extreme, unrealistic and not in line with what voters want.

But a new Fox News poll finds that raising income taxes on ten-millionaires is a policy that enjoys broad bipartisan support among 85 percent of Democrats, 54 percent of Republicans, and 70 percent of registered voters overall. Hiking taxes on incomes over one million was almost as popular overall, with 65 percent support.

Asked, in broad terms, to choose between cutting taxes or raising spending, a majority of Americans opted for the latter, with only 40 percent preferring tax cuts.
Numbers like these underscore the growing disconnect between what voters want and what most elected officials are willing to consider. Research in the past year has shown that politicians in D.C. and at the nation’s state houses believe that the public is much more conservative on economic policy issues than they actually area. Many political scientists believe that this is due, in part, to lawmakers' cozy relationships with big businesses and their deep-pocketed lobbyists, who tend to prefer more conservative economic policies.

The Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017 provides a prime example of how this disconnect affects real-world policymaking. Republicans in Congress passed a package of changes to the tax code whose benefits largely accrued to businesses and the wealthy. The bill was supported by a large coalition of conservative groups, including Americans for Tax Reform, the American Legislative Exchange Council, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and Americans for Prosperity.

Zero Democrats voted for the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017. The final legislation passed both chambers of Congress along strictly partisan lines, with no Democrats in either the House of Representatives or the Senate voting in favor of the bill.

Proving you folks wrong is like shooting ducks in a proverbial barrel.
 
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berg80 said:
Critics of Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) have lined up to paint her proposed 70 percent tax rate on income above $10 million as extreme, unrealistic and not in line with what voters want.

But a new Fox News poll finds that raising income taxes on ten-millionaires is a policy that enjoys broad bipartisan support among 85 percent of Democrats, 54 percent of Republicans, and 70 percent of registered voters overall. Hiking taxes on incomes over one million was almost as popular overall, with 65 percent support.

Asked, in broad terms, to choose between cutting taxes or raising spending, a majority of Americans opted for the latter, with only 40 percent preferring tax cuts.
Numbers like these underscore the growing disconnect between what voters want and what most elected officials are willing to consider. Research in the past year has shown that politicians in D.C. and at the nation’s state houses believe that the public is much more conservative on economic policy issues than they actually area. Many political scientists believe that this is due, in part, to lawmakers' cozy relationships with big businesses and their deep-pocketed lobbyists, who tend to prefer more conservative economic policies.

The Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017 provides a prime example of how this disconnect affects real-world policymaking. Republicans in Congress passed a package of changes to the tax code whose benefits largely accrued to businesses and the wealthy. The bill was supported by a large coalition of conservative groups, including Americans for Tax Reform, the American Legislative Exchange Council, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and Americans for Prosperity.

Zero Democrats voted for the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017. The final legislation passed both chambers of Congress along strictly partisan lines, with no Democrats in either the House of Representatives or the Senate voting in favor of the bill.
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The Save America Act has higher support, but you and every Islamocrat politician opposes it.


Once again you are on the wrong side of America.
 
berg80 said:
Critics of Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) have lined up to paint her proposed 70 percent tax rate on income above $10 million as extreme, unrealistic and not in line with what voters want.

But a new Fox News poll finds that raising income taxes on ten-millionaires is a policy that enjoys broad bipartisan support among 85 percent of Democrats, 54 percent of Republicans, and 70 percent of registered voters overall. Hiking taxes on incomes over one million was almost as popular overall, with 65 percent support.

Asked, in broad terms, to choose between cutting taxes or raising spending, a majority of Americans opted for the latter, with only 40 percent preferring tax cuts.
Numbers like these underscore the growing disconnect between what voters want and what most elected officials are willing to consider. Research in the past year has shown that politicians in D.C. and at the nation’s state houses believe that the public is much more conservative on economic policy issues than they actually area. Many political scientists believe that this is due, in part, to lawmakers' cozy relationships with big businesses and their deep-pocketed lobbyists, who tend to prefer more conservative economic policies.

The Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017 provides a prime example of how this disconnect affects real-world policymaking. Republicans in Congress passed a package of changes to the tax code whose benefits largely accrued to businesses and the wealthy. The bill was supported by a large coalition of conservative groups, including Americans for Tax Reform, the American Legislative Exchange Council, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and Americans for Prosperity.

Zero Democrats voted for the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017. The final legislation passed both chambers of Congress along strictly partisan lines, with no Democrats in either the House of Representatives or the Senate voting in favor of the bill.

Proving you folks wrong is like shooting ducks in a proverbial barrel.
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In the last 56 years Democrats have controlled the House Senate and Presidency for 10 years, Republicans for 8 years, so that leaves 38 years that both have had some control and the loop holes keep coming. I am not buying the spin, you can’t tell me that republicans caused all the damage in those 10 years and if they did, the Democrats could have fixed them all. It is bipartisan, it is logical and makes sense, AOC is just one vote.

What is funny is I mentioned several points of Obama creating disunity and all you counter was just one and you couldn’t even do that, so you moved on. Thanks for the admission I am right.

Your lack of logic is the problem, these two parties are corrupt through and through. It’s like shooting ducks in a barrel.
 
BlindBoo said:
Well, gosh. That was pretty brutal.

I mean breeding them like cattle and selling them as if they had no more rights than farm animals was so much more humane!

No wonder the people were singing the night they drove Old Dixie Down.
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It was a start and a compromise.
Try thinking in context of @250 years ago.*
Besides, the 'breeding like cattle' had been ongoing for centuries.

Maybe a refresher on history would also help.

You also overlook that most other colonies in the Americas were still importing. :rolleyes:
 
Nostra said:
It's a good thing a Republican President put and end the the Dimwinger Party slavery.
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I highly doubt Abe Lincoln would be a Republican today. He would abhor everything today's GOP/MAGA stands for... economic inequality/protectionism, reduced immigration, and discriminatory policies based on race, gender, and socio-economic standing.
 
DukeU said:
He is a great speaker but after 8 years of watching and listening to this man, the people realized the talk didn't line up with the results.
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And trump is better....? He made a lot of fairytale claims and promises, and has done just the opposite!
 
Senior said:
I highly doubt Abe Lincoln would be a Republican today. He would abhor everything today's GOP/MAGA stands for... economic inequality/protectionism, reduced immigration, and discriminatory policies based on race, gender, and socio-economic standing.
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he wouldnt be a fan of the democrats either....
 
Papageorgio said:
What is funny is I mentioned several points of Obama creating disunity and all you counter was just one and you couldn’t even do that, so you moved on. Thanks for the admission I am right.
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You have a habit of claiming victory without having achieved it. It's true, Obama was accused of being divisive. But then he was accused of a lot of things that weren't true.
 
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berg80 said:


As is his want, he spoke about human dignity, mutual respect, the democratic ideals that bind us, and the values we share as Americans. In so doing I was reminded of what this country was and aspired to be. Something from which we are on what I hope is only a brief hiatus, but worry we are not. What a contrast from our current situation.

Unfortunately, it also brought back memories of how much he was loathed. And in some circles still is. Despite the impeccably civil, ethical, contemplative, mature, forward thinking nature of his presidency. We sure could use some of that right now.
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I always say look at a man's actions, not his words, to get the true picture of his character. 0bama talks a great game, but was an abysmal incompetent failure at everything. He left the country and world in far worse shape. Trump speaks with a rough edge at times, but he has delivered supremely for the country and the world.

0bama had an easy time of it, as per his fawning treatment by the leftwing media. Trump has had it difficult every step of the way, but all the abuse and mistreatment he has absorbed has forged him into the once-a-millennium leader he is.
 
Mashmont said:
I always say look at a man's actions, not his words, to get the true picture of his character. 0bama talks a great game, but was an abysmal incompetent failure at everything. He left the country and world in far worse shape. Trump speaks with a rough edge at times, but he has delivered supremely for the country and the world.
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As I said the other day, you must be trolling. Cuz it isn't possible for anyone to be as detached from reality as you appear to be.
 
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