It is time to end our relationship with Israel

I’ve read that Israel has the lowest civilian casualty:military rate of most wars. That is a testament to the Jews’ efforts to limit civilian deaths, and the number would be even lower if HAMAS weren’t trying to get their own people killed.
Yeah. I’ve read that too. I’m not entirely convinced it is true. But the battlefield conditions are so incredibly different I’m not sure a comparison is even possible. It is glaringly obvious that Israel is not only adhering to international law, but exceeding the requirements in protecting civilians.
 
Yeah I know you think all murdered by your beloved terrorist IOF were Hamas. Actually nearly all you’ve murdered are civilians. Mostly women and children.
Nope. I think about 35,000 were combatants. Some of whom are women or children. And about 25,000 were civilians, with some number of those being killed by Hamas, Islamic Jihad, or other Arab groups. And about 5,000 we are being lied to about.
 
Hamas has also no way of effectively fighting …
Don’t be silly. Hamas has an extremely effective way of fighting the IDF. They spent 20 years developing their fighting strategies and military infrastructure to protect themselves and make their civilian population vulnerable. And 20 years to develop their propaganda program intended to put international pressure on Israel to end the war without accomplishing its military objectives. It’s a masterclass in social warfare.
 
Why do all the comments from Netanyahu's ethically bankrupt gaggle of genocidal Zionist shills sound alike?

Since this is one of the dumber comments I've read, I'll try to keep things simple.

First, all of the apologists for this internationally condemned genocide try to blame the same Hamas that Israel's right wing helped establish to foment civil war among Palestine's native residents.

They began lying about the long anticipated tragedy before the dust had settled with fables about "40 headless babies", babies stuffed in ovens, babies hung from clotheslines and fake rape claims (1).

Next, they think that by calling this long planned Zionist False Flag (2) a "war", they can deceive those who know nothing about war or the events leading up to this deceptive Zionist scheme to finally kill off surviving Palestinians and steal their land.

Finally, no where have I expressed any support for the "war plan" of Hamas.

The most prominent supporters of Hamas' "war plan" has been Netanyahu and his right wing extremists who knew of the uprising over a year before it was planned, actually withdrew troops from the Wall, ignored repeated alerts from guards at the Wall and sent in trigger happy IDFers who killed about 300 Israelis and blamed Hamas to further support a bloodthirsty genocide / "Greater Israel" land grab.

So, if you're looking for those who both knew of and supported Hamas' uprising over a year before it occurred, you need look no further than Netanyahu and his gang of genocidal henchmen.










(1).ā€œOctober 7 'rape claims' debunked as Israeli propaganda unravelsā€

EXCERPT ā€œDiscredited stories and false first responder accounts — of beheaded babies, children hung from clotheslines, and infants put in ovens — were used to exaggerate events of October 7 and create backing for Israel's war on Gaza,

Still, it took ZAKA months to acknowledge the accounts were wrong, allowing them to proliferate. And the fallout from the debunked accounts shows how the topic of sexual violence has been used to further political agendas.ā€ CONTINUED


(2)."HAMASā€Šā€”ā€ŠTHE BIGGEST FALSE FLAG IN HISTORY?"

ā€œWho really planned 7th Oct?ā€



EXCERPT "If I were to list every Zionist false flag operation, we would be here all day.

At the very least, it can be said that the Zionists were no strangers to False Flag operations and to encouraging and burnishing fake narratives of victimhood.

Far from being a popular Palestinian movement, Hamas were in reality a marginal and weak movement, which since 2002, Netanyahu and his right-wing associates beefed up with every form of support, and declared quite openly why they were doing so." CONTINUED



(3). "New York Times report says Israel knew about Hamas attack over a year in advance"

EXCERPT "Israel’s military was aware of Hamas ' plan to launch an attack on Israeli soil over a year before the devastating Oct. 7 operation that killed hundreds of people, The New York Times reported Friday.

It was the latest in a series of signs that top Israeli commanders either ignored or played down warnings that Hamas was plotting the attack, which triggered a war against the Islamic militant group that has devastated the Gaza Strip.

The Times said Israeli officials were in possession of a 40-page battle plan, code-named ā€œJericho Wall,ā€ that detailed a hypothetical Hamas attack on southern Israeli communities." CONTINUED

Silly stuff. The so called Palestinians will be defeated and disarmed and prevented from rearming. Essential infrastructure will be repaired, but Gaza will not be rebuilt while the Arabs living there refuse to live in peace with Israel, so the great majority of the population will seek better lives somewhere else.
 
Incorrect on many levels.

1. I refer to HAMAS, which did started a war with the plan of using their own people are pr props, was various types of "subhumans", not the palestinians as an ethnic groups. That is a big distinction. I am judging member of a political group based on their actions, not based on their ethnicity.

2. It is a warzone. You are being silly.

3. Hamas was pretty effective on 10/7.
Do you know anything about 10/7 other than the Zionist propaganda you were told? Do you not know the border patrol was told to stand down? Do you not know that border was the most surveilled border in the world? The IOF knew if a mouse was moving along it. Do you think a rag tag group of men with small arms would have any chance against the IOF? Do you not know Israel was forewarned a year in advance? Do you not know of the Hannibal Directive which was imposed that day and killed many Israelis?

I certain I know nothing of any of these facts.
 
Silly stuff. The so called Palestinians will be defeated and disarmed and prevented from rearming. Essential infrastructure will be repaired, but Gaza will not be rebuilt while the Arabs living there refuse to live in peace with Israel, so the great majority of the population will seek better lives somewhere else.
Sure Bibi.
 
Do you know anything about 10/7 other than the Zionist propaganda you were told? Do you not know the border patrol was told to stand down? Do you not know that border was the most surveilled border in the world? The IOF knew if a mouse was moving along it. Do you think a rag tag group of men with small arms would have any chance against the IOF? Do you not know Israel was forewarned a year in advance? Do you not know of the Hannibal Directive which was imposed that day and killed many Israelis?

I certain I know nothing of any of these facts.

I don't care about teh details. HAMAS choose to start a war, that it knew it could not win, and it's plan was to use it's loss and thus their own people are pr props to play stupid westerns into supporting their desired for genocide.

I saw that, on 10/7 and it was in the spirit of decades of policy from them (hamas, plo, ect).

And I was done with them. That was the end of my concern for them.
 
HAMAS choose to start a war


That is complete BS. There was no 107 attack.

Everyone who says there was should be forced to fly a motorized paraglider to prove it...


 
That is complete BS. There was no 107 attack.

Everyone who says there was should be forced to fly a motorized paraglider to prove it...




I've always wanted to fly a motorized paraglider. They exist. I don't know why you don't think that they could not be part of a military operation.

You aware of the use of gliders on d-day? Soldiers are often quite... determined to use, inadequate and even dangerous equipment, when it is part of a mission they are committed to.
 
Silly stuff. The so called Palestinians will be defeated and disarmed and prevented from rearming. Essential infrastructure will be repaired, but Gaza will not be rebuilt while the Arabs living there refuse to live in peace with Israel, so the great majority of the population will seek better lives somewhere else.


You've obviously neither been to the Middle East nor spent any time talking to its native residents.

Based on your predictions, your sole source of information must only be blatantly pro Israel Western MSM. (1)

Even a casual student of the region's history is aware that Palestine's native Jews and Arabs were able to peacefully share the land (2) before the invasion and occupation of Nazi armed and trained Zionist terrorist gangs.

That's right, the German SS armed and trained Haganah which was later named IDF (3) and, currently, the most widely condemned military force on the planet for its indiscriminate slaughter of mainly women and children. (4)

Re:
...the Arabs living there refuse to live in peace with Israel,

If you had ever been to the Middle East or studied its history, you would know that the criminal and expansionist Zionist "Settlements" project is direct and irrefutable proof that Israel's right wing Zionist element and militant psycho "Settlers" abhor the idea of peacefully sharing the land (5) like Palestine's native Jews did.

These right wing Zionists have proven that they want all of former Palestine as well as parts of surrounding countries for their "Greater Israel" Lebensraum.

Re:
...so the great majority of the population will seek better lives somewhere else.

Again, your sole source of information, pro Israel Western MSM is deceiving you:

"Israeli citizens, dual citizens, and tourists have been desperate to flee the country" (6)

Unlike recently arrived Jews from Brooklyn, Florida, Russia etc, Palestine's Arab population has been in Palestine for generations and has nowhere to go.

Why should they have to leave their homes of generations in an attempt to appease Israel's right wing criminal land thieves and genocidal Zionist miscreants?

Rather than further torment Palestine's native non Jews, the foreign funded government of Israel should face at least strict sanctions until it abides by international law and pays reparations to Nakba survivors just as Germany has been forced to pay Holocaust reparations to a corrupt, fraudulent and insatiable Holocaust Industry. (7), (8)

Finally, it is a growing number of recently arrived "Israelis" who want to leave and the inevitable blowback coming from Netanyahu's US funded genocide is going to make even more foreign Zionists in Israel go home in the future.

Israel's well deserved misery is just beginning.


Thanks,




(1). ā€œStudies continually show strong pro-Israel bias in western mediaā€
http://www.middleeasteye.net/columns/studies-continually-show-strong-pro-israel-bias-western-media-881718416

EXCERPT ā€œMainstream western media outlets are, by and large, infused with a pro-Israeli ideological bias that colors nearly all mainstream Western reporting on Israel-Palestine.

Israel is assumed to be good, peaceful, and like ā€˜us’. The Palestinians, meanwhile, are backwards, violent, and foreign. These are the assumptions that most western news outlets start with, " CONTINUED


(2). ā€œBefore Zionism: The shared life of Jews and Palestiniansā€

EXCERPT ā€œHe quotes the memoirs of Ya’akov Elazar from Jerusalem, who remembers how ā€œthe Muslim women cooperated respectfully with the customs of the Jewish religion…

the Muslim neighbors allowed the Jewish women to pump water necessary before the Sabbath.ā€ Klein also describes how some Muslims even joined their Jewish neighbors in reciting religious prayers.

He describes the cheder (a traditional elementary school where the basics of Judaism and the Hebrew language were taught) run by Hacham Gershon in the neighborhood of Sheikh Jarrah, where Arab parents brought their children so that they would learn how to behave properly.

Klein also writes that sexual relations and marriages between Jews and Arabs were not unheard of, even if they were not considered legitimate.ā€


(3). ā€œZionism and the Third Reichā€
https://www.ihr.org/jhr/v13/v13n4p29_Weber.html

EXCERPT ā€œIn cooperation with the German authorities, Zionist groups organized a network of some forty camps and agricultural centers throughout Germany where prospective settlers were trained for their new lives in Palestine. Although the Nuremberg Laws forbid Jews from displaying the German flag, Jews were specifically guaranteed the right to display the blue and white Jewish national banner. The flag that would one day be adopted by Israel was flown at the Zionist camps and centers in Hitler's Germany. /19

Himmler's security service cooperated with the Haganah, the Zionist underground military organization in Palestine. The SS agency paid Haganah official Feivel Polkes for information about the situation in Palestine and for help in directing Jewish emigration to that country. Meanwhile, the Haganah was kept well informed about German plans by a spy it managed to plant in the Berlin headquarters of the SS. /20 Haganah-SS collaboration even included secret deliveries of German weapons to Jewish settlers for use in clashes with Palestinian Arabs. /21

In the aftermath of the November 1938 "Kristallnacht" outburst of violence and destruction, the SS quickly helped the Zionist organization to get back on its feet and continue its work in Germany, although now under more restricted supervision. /22ā€ CONTINUED


(4.) "MORE WOMEN AND CHILDREN KILLED IN GAZA BY ISRAELI MILITARY THAN ANY OTHER RECENT CONFLICT IN A SINGLE YEAR"


(5). "Israel Does Not Want Peace"
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-does-not-want-peace-1.5253291

EXCERPT "Rejectionism is embedded in Israel's most primal beliefs. There, at the deepest level, lies the concept that this land is destined for the Jews alone.

Israel does not want peace. There is nothing I have ever written that I would be happier to be proved wrong about. But the evidence is piling up. In fact, it can be said that Israel has never wanted peace – a just peace, that is, one based on a just compromise for both sides.

The single most overwhelming item of evidence of Israel’s rejection of peace is, of course, the settlements project. From the dawn of its existence, there has never been a more reliable or more precise litmus test for Israel’s true intentions than this particular enterprise. In plain words: The builders of settlements want to consolidate the occupation, and those who want to consolidate the occupation do not want peace. That’s the whole story in a nutshell." CONTINUED


(6). "As Palestinians are massacred for staying, Israelis are desperate to flee"​


EXCERPT "Israeli citizens, dual citizens, and tourists have been desperate to flee the country on so-called "escape flotillas" and "rescue flights", as conditions have become even more unlivable in the last two years than they had been before 7 October 2023.

With "large numbers of Israeli citizens" desperate to escape, the Israeli government has issued a decision effectively barring them from leaving." CONTINUED


(7). ā€17 CHARGED IN $42 MILLION HOLOCAUST FRAUD CASE"
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/40093058/...ed-million-holocaust-fraud-case/#.XU62pSMwi_U

EXCERPT "Federal prosecutors said Tuesday they have broken up a long-running scam in which people falsely claimed to be victims of the Nazi persecution so they could get money out of a fund that pays Holocaust reparations."CONTINUED


(8). ā€HOLOCAUST CLAIMS CONFERENCE FRAUD LIKELY ā€˜MUCH HIGHER’ THAN $57 MILLION"

EXCERPT "For over a decade, a criminal ring within the organization embezzled tens of millions of dollars through false restitution claims.

Writing to the Claims Conference’s board last week, recently terminated ombudsman Shmuel Hollander asserted that, while reports had said organizational insiders had siphoned off $57 million in German taxpayer funds meant for survivors, ā€œthe final sum is in all probability much higher.ā€ CONTINUED
 
I don't know why you don't think that they could not be part of a military operation.








If the wind shifts, you crash and you die...
The motorized paraglider doesn't go where you want it to go, it goes where the wind dictates...
If 30 "terrorists" took off in motorized paragliders like is the 107 BS, 28 would crash, one would end up in the Mediterranean, and one might actually land safely...

Felix Baumgartner was an expert at this type of thing...


 
I don't care about teh details. HAMAS choose to start a war, that it knew it could not win, and it's plan was to use it's loss and thus their own people are pr props to play stupid westerns into supporting their desired for genocide.

I saw that, on 10/7 and it was in the spirit of decades of policy from them (hamas, plo, ect).

And I was done with them. That was the end of my concern for them.
lol. What a dumb ****!
 






If the wind shifts, you crash and you die...
The motorized paraglider doesn't go where you want it to go, it goes where the wind dictates...
If 30 "terrorists" took off in motorized paragliders like is the 107 BS, 28 would crash, one would end up in the Mediterranean, and one might actually land safely...

Felix Baumgartner was an expert at this type of thing...





REad up on the use of gliders during d-day. Don't underestitmate what demtermined men can do.
 
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lol. What a dumb ****!


HAMAS choose to start a war, that it knew it could not win, and it's plan was to use it's loss and thus their own people are pr props to play stupid westerns into supporting their desired for genocide.

I saw that, on 10/7 and it was in the spirit of decades of policy from them (hamas, plo, ect).

And I was done with them. That was the end of my concern for them.
 
HAMAS choose to start a war, that it knew it could not win, and it's plan was to use it's loss and thus their own people are pr props to play stupid westerns into supporting their desired for genocide.

I saw that, on 10/7 and it was in the spirit of decades of policy from them (hamas, plo, ect).

And I was done with them. That was the end of my concern for them.
You had concern for them or any other brown people?
 
15th post
Wow. Three tons of explosives for every terrorist eliminated. Quite inefficient, don’t you think?
That depends, also not every victim can be described as a "terrorist" I mean can a new born baby real be a terrorist even in your sick world?

You can't really evaluate IDF efficiency in Gaza without knowing the objectives. It's obvious to most people that one of the objectives is to make the Gaza strip uninhabitable not simply to murder people (although that's a useful "nice to have" for the IDF).

Making the place unlivable, increases the inducement for people to leave, perhaps being willing to sign an agreement to "emigrate" to Uganda or some place and handover their property rights. Also since the neo-Zionist regime plan to turn the place into a seaside resort (as it was before 1948 in fact) demolishing all of the Palestinian properties is a must, so why not lump all of this into their onslaught?

Cost is also a factor too, the IDF get weapons and munitions for free, so that has a huge impact on any analysis of efficiency, if they have weapons in abundance, unlimited munitions, then what they are doing is very very efficient.

Given that it is us - taxpayers - who are actually paying for this, it is us who should be questioning this use of American money. The Israelis don't care, all this is costing them monetarily is soldier wages and what little remained of the state's reputation (and we likely even pay for them too!).

Since Oct 7th we - the American public - have donated over 22 Billion dollars to this charity, we should all get some kind of tax write off surely?

So nice try but you'll only fool the simpletons around here with your "analysis" and child like understanding of "efficiency".
 
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HAMAS choose to start a war, that it knew it could not win, and it's plan was to use it's loss and thus their own people are pr props to play stupid westerns into supporting their desired for genocide.

I saw that, on 10/7 and it was in the spirit of decades of policy from them (hamas, plo, ect).

And I was done with them. That was the end of my concern for them.
With every post you unknowingly expose yourself as an ignoramus. Lol.
 
You've obviously neither been to the Middle East nor spent any time talking to its native residents.

Based on your predictions, your sole source of information must only be blatantly pro Israel Western MSM. (1)

Even a casual student of the region's history is aware that Palestine's native Jews and Arabs were able to peacefully share the land (2) before the invasion and occupation of Nazi armed and trained Zionist terrorist gangs.

That's right, the German SS armed and trained Haganah which was later named IDF (3) and, currently, the most widely condemned military force on the planet for its indiscriminate slaughter of mainly women and children. (4)

Re:


If you had ever been to the Middle East or studied its history, you would know that the criminal and expansionist Zionist "Settlements" project is direct and irrefutable proof that Israel's right wing Zionist element and militant psycho "Settlers" abhor the idea of peacefully sharing the land (5) like Palestine's native Jews did.

These right wing Zionists have proven that they want all of former Palestine as well as parts of surrounding countries for their "Greater Israel" Lebensraum.

Re:


Again, your sole source of information, pro Israel Western MSM is deceiving you:

"Israeli citizens, dual citizens, and tourists have been desperate to flee the country" (6)

Unlike recently arrived Jews from Brooklyn, Florida, Russia etc, Palestine's Arab population has been in Palestine for generations and has nowhere to go.

Why should they have to leave their homes of generations in an attempt to appease Israel's right wing criminal land thieves and genocidal Zionist miscreants?

Rather than further torment Palestine's native non Jews, the foreign funded government of Israel should face at least strict sanctions until it abides by international law and pays reparations to Nakba survivors just as Germany has been forced to pay Holocaust reparations to a corrupt, fraudulent and insatiable Holocaust Industry. (7), (8)

Finally, it is a growing number of recently arrived "Israelis" who want to leave and the inevitable blowback coming from Netanyahu's US funded genocide is going to make even more foreign Zionists in Israel go home in the future.

Israel's well deserved misery is just beginning.


Thanks,




(1). ā€œStudies continually show strong pro-Israel bias in western mediaā€
http://www.middleeasteye.net/columns/studies-continually-show-strong-pro-israel-bias-western-media-881718416

EXCERPT ā€œMainstream western media outlets are, by and large, infused with a pro-Israeli ideological bias that colors nearly all mainstream Western reporting on Israel-Palestine.

Israel is assumed to be good, peaceful, and like ā€˜us’. The Palestinians, meanwhile, are backwards, violent, and foreign. These are the assumptions that most western news outlets start with, " CONTINUED


(2). ā€œBefore Zionism: The shared life of Jews and Palestiniansā€

EXCERPT ā€œHe quotes the memoirs of Ya’akov Elazar from Jerusalem, who remembers how ā€œthe Muslim women cooperated respectfully with the customs of the Jewish religion…

the Muslim neighbors allowed the Jewish women to pump water necessary before the Sabbath.ā€ Klein also describes how some Muslims even joined their Jewish neighbors in reciting religious prayers.

He describes the cheder (a traditional elementary school where the basics of Judaism and the Hebrew language were taught) run by Hacham Gershon in the neighborhood of Sheikh Jarrah, where Arab parents brought their children so that they would learn how to behave properly.

Klein also writes that sexual relations and marriages between Jews and Arabs were not unheard of, even if they were not considered legitimate.ā€


(3). ā€œZionism and the Third Reichā€
Zionism and the Third Reich

EXCERPT ā€œIn cooperation with the German authorities, Zionist groups organized a network of some forty camps and agricultural centers throughout Germany where prospective settlers were trained for their new lives in Palestine. Although the Nuremberg Laws forbid Jews from displaying the German flag, Jews were specifically guaranteed the right to display the blue and white Jewish national banner. The flag that would one day be adopted by Israel was flown at the Zionist camps and centers in Hitler's Germany. /19

Himmler's security service cooperated with the Haganah, the Zionist underground military organization in Palestine. The SS agency paid Haganah official Feivel Polkes for information about the situation in Palestine and for help in directing Jewish emigration to that country. Meanwhile, the Haganah was kept well informed about German plans by a spy it managed to plant in the Berlin headquarters of the SS. /20 Haganah-SS collaboration even included secret deliveries of German weapons to Jewish settlers for use in clashes with Palestinian Arabs. /21

In the aftermath of the November 1938 "Kristallnacht" outburst of violence and destruction, the SS quickly helped the Zionist organization to get back on its feet and continue its work in Germany, although now under more restricted supervision. /22ā€ CONTINUED


(4.) "MORE WOMEN AND CHILDREN KILLED IN GAZA BY ISRAELI MILITARY THAN ANY OTHER RECENT CONFLICT IN A SINGLE YEAR"


(5). "Israel Does Not Want Peace"
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-does-not-want-peace-1.5253291

EXCERPT "Rejectionism is embedded in Israel's most primal beliefs. There, at the deepest level, lies the concept that this land is destined for the Jews alone.

Israel does not want peace. There is nothing I have ever written that I would be happier to be proved wrong about. But the evidence is piling up. In fact, it can be said that Israel has never wanted peace – a just peace, that is, one based on a just compromise for both sides.

The single most overwhelming item of evidence of Israel’s rejection of peace is, of course, the settlements project. From the dawn of its existence, there has never been a more reliable or more precise litmus test for Israel’s true intentions than this particular enterprise. In plain words: The builders of settlements want to consolidate the occupation, and those who want to consolidate the occupation do not want peace. That’s the whole story in a nutshell." CONTINUED


(6). "As Palestinians are massacred for staying, Israelis are desperate to flee"​


EXCERPT "Israeli citizens, dual citizens, and tourists have been desperate to flee the country on so-called "escape flotillas" and "rescue flights", as conditions have become even more unlivable in the last two years than they had been before 7 October 2023.

With "large numbers of Israeli citizens" desperate to escape, the Israeli government has issued a decision effectively barring them from leaving." CONTINUED


(7). ā€17 CHARGED IN $42 MILLION HOLOCAUST FRAUD CASE"
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/40093058/...ed-million-holocaust-fraud-case/#.XU62pSMwi_U

EXCERPT "Federal prosecutors said Tuesday they have broken up a long-running scam in which people falsely claimed to be victims of the Nazi persecution so they could get money out of a fund that pays Holocaust reparations."CONTINUED


(8). ā€HOLOCAUST CLAIMS CONFERENCE FRAUD LIKELY ā€˜MUCH HIGHER’ THAN $57 MILLION"

EXCERPT "For over a decade, a criminal ring within the organization embezzled tens of millions of dollars through false restitution claims.

Writing to the Claims Conference’s board last week, recently terminated ombudsman Shmuel Hollander asserted that, while reports had said organizational insiders had siphoned off $57 million in German taxpayer funds meant for survivors, ā€œthe final sum is in all probability much higher.ā€ CONTINUED
More silly bullshit from a warmongering bigot who is incapable of addressing the current situation. The simple fact is this war doesn't end until the Palestinian gangs are disarmed and prevented from rearming, and Gaza will not be rebuilt until the so called Palestinians decide to live in peace with Israel.
 
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