It has become painfully obvious to me that Donald Trump literally BROKE THE LEFT in America

[Lastamender]

Even some of the posters on here that I respected have gone full retard on ANYTHING that can even remotely be tied to Trump.

Trying to equate Jan 6th to Benghazi is just so over the top it defies logic.
Almost 2 fucking years of violent riots across the nation with around 30 murdered, countless businesses burned to the ground, countless others looted clean, government buildings literally set on fire, BILLIONS in damage, countless jobs lost....

And the 6th is somehow the end of the universe?

It’s understandable why people have had it with Trump. He just lies about everything. His supporters don’t care because it riles up the left which is why they love Trump. But in the real world lies and conspiracies are dangerous things. The Jan 6th riot and 2020 election have had false narratives around them for months that are now being parroted by leadership. That needs to be squashed and we need to strive for accountability and honesty not the current atmosphere of fight for power at all costs.

He's been gone for FOUR MONTHS but you wouldn't know it based on the nuts posting here about how he stole their lunch money or virginity...

He and Republican leadership are still propagating lies about the election. The Jan 6 investigation is an attempt by Dems to expose those lies and give Americans a factual narrative

He can say whatever he likes as a citizen with first amendment rights. However it has no influence over our current congress on ANY issue that matters. Dems have control and need to govern rather than playing nanananabooboo with Trump.

Nobody is calling for criminal charges to be filed against Trump for his lies but they are pushing back against them. And when leadership propagates those lies which results in undermining the public confidence in our elections the it’s an issue to be taken seriously.

I'm sort of in the middle here.. . .

The right is sure that Trump won.

The left says this is a lie.

When the corporate cabal is honest, and values the process over profits, integrity over politics, when they allow those who support Trump, to have their demands met for a full exposure of how the election was conducted, including having the source code revealed. . . as a bystander, I will be satisfied.

. . . but? Calling something a "lie," until it is proven so? I am not convinced. I remember when the right called all of the left's criticisms of the 2000 and 2004's election irregularities, "lies," and again, nothing was done about it. Now the shoe seems to be on the other foot. The only difference? Their candidate is not backing down.

So, excuse me if I don't just accept the propaganda of the corporatacracy and the establishment.

Trump? He's acts the fool, sure. But Biden and his corporate masters are tyrants. I don't trust or believe any of them.

It’s a lie just for the fact that it hasn’t been proven yet is being sold as a stolen election that Trump won. So even if that statement is true and there was some kind of hack or vast conspiracy that swung the election, those calling it stolen, like it’s fact, without the evidence to prove those claims, are lying.

The fraud claims were given a chance. Over 60 judges were presented cases and not one was legit enough to even warrant a trial. Our intel agencies including Barr all said the election was legit and there is no evidence of a stolen election. We know Trump. We know he lies. We saw him set up the “rigged election” narrative in 2016 when he thought he was going to lose. We saw him try and set up a voting fraud commission to show that he actually won the popular vote. It failed. Now we predicted and saw him use the same playbook for the 2020 election. Nothing will ever satisfy the crazy here. You can look at source code or do recounts and audits in every county and there will still be seeds of doubt planted and claims of a stolen election.

You seem like a fair minded person. You’ve got to see the game being played here... right?

You keep repeating yourself and the Democrats and RINOs keep doing everything they can to block audits and investigations. The guilt might as well be tattooed on their foreheads.

You have your third count going on in AZ right now. After it flops you’ll move on to something else that I will mock you about

What makes you think it is going to flop? There must be something there when so many are trying so hard to stop it. A child could figure that out. Do you know any that could help explain it to you?

 

[Slade3200]

Even some of the posters on here that I respected have gone full retard on ANYTHING that can even remotely be tied to Trump.

Trying to equate Jan 6th to Benghazi is just so over the top it defies logic.
Almost 2 fucking years of violent riots across the nation with around 30 murdered, countless businesses burned to the ground, countless others looted clean, government buildings literally set on fire, BILLIONS in damage, countless jobs lost....

And the 6th is somehow the end of the universe?

It’s understandable why people have had it with Trump. He just lies about everything. His supporters don’t care because it riles up the left which is why they love Trump. But in the real world lies and conspiracies are dangerous things. The Jan 6th riot and 2020 election have had false narratives around them for months that are now being parroted by leadership. That needs to be squashed and we need to strive for accountability and honesty not the current atmosphere of fight for power at all costs.

He's been gone for FOUR MONTHS but you wouldn't know it based on the nuts posting here about how he stole their lunch money or virginity...

He and Republican leadership are still propagating lies about the election. The Jan 6 investigation is an attempt by Dems to expose those lies and give Americans a factual narrative

He can say whatever he likes as a citizen with first amendment rights. However it has no influence over our current congress on ANY issue that matters. Dems have control and need to govern rather than playing nanananabooboo with Trump.

Nobody is calling for criminal charges to be filed against Trump for his lies but they are pushing back against them. And when leadership propagates those lies which results in undermining the public confidence in our elections the it’s an issue to be taken seriously.

I'm sort of in the middle here.. . .

The right is sure that Trump won.

The left says this is a lie.

When the corporate cabal is honest, and values the process over profits, integrity over politics, when they allow those who support Trump, to have their demands met for a full exposure of how the election was conducted, including having the source code revealed. . . as a bystander, I will be satisfied.

. . . but? Calling something a "lie," until it is proven so? I am not convinced. I remember when the right called all of the left's criticisms of the 2000 and 2004's election irregularities, "lies," and again, nothing was done about it. Now the shoe seems to be on the other foot. The only difference? Their candidate is not backing down.

So, excuse me if I don't just accept the propaganda of the corporatacracy and the establishment.

Trump? He's acts the fool, sure. But Biden and his corporate masters are tyrants. I don't trust or believe any of them.

It’s a lie just for the fact that it hasn’t been proven yet is being sold as a stolen election that Trump won. So even if that statement is true and there was some kind of hack or vast conspiracy that swung the election, those calling it stolen, like it’s fact, without the evidence to prove those claims, are lying.

The fraud claims were given a chance. Over 60 judges were presented cases and not one was legit enough to even warrant a trial. Our intel agencies including Barr all said the election was legit and there is no evidence of a stolen election. We know Trump. We know he lies. We saw him set up the “rigged election” narrative in 2016 when he thought he was going to lose. We saw him try and set up a voting fraud commission to show that he actually won the popular vote. It failed. Now we predicted and saw him use the same playbook for the 2020 election. Nothing will ever satisfy the crazy here. You can look at source code or do recounts and audits in every county and there will still be seeds of doubt planted and claims of a stolen election.

You seem like a fair minded person. You’ve got to see the game being played here... right?

You keep repeating yourself and the Democrats and RINOs keep doing everything they can to block audits and investigations. The guilt might as well be tattooed on their foreheads.

You have your third count going on in AZ right now. After it flops you’ll move on to something else that I will mock you about

What makes you think it is going to flop? There must be something there when so many are trying so hard to stop it. A child could figure that out. Do you know any that could help explain it to you?

Because the election process has safeguards and Trump is a horrific liar. The game he is playing is obvious. AZ will flop but I have no doubt you will find some lame excuse

 

[Lastamender]

Even some of the posters on here that I respected have gone full retard on ANYTHING that can even remotely be tied to Trump.

Trying to equate Jan 6th to Benghazi is just so over the top it defies logic.
Almost 2 fucking years of violent riots across the nation with around 30 murdered, countless businesses burned to the ground, countless others looted clean, government buildings literally set on fire, BILLIONS in damage, countless jobs lost....

And the 6th is somehow the end of the universe?

It’s understandable why people have had it with Trump. He just lies about everything. His supporters don’t care because it riles up the left which is why they love Trump. But in the real world lies and conspiracies are dangerous things. The Jan 6th riot and 2020 election have had false narratives around them for months that are now being parroted by leadership. That needs to be squashed and we need to strive for accountability and honesty not the current atmosphere of fight for power at all costs.

He's been gone for FOUR MONTHS but you wouldn't know it based on the nuts posting here about how he stole their lunch money or virginity...

He and Republican leadership are still propagating lies about the election. The Jan 6 investigation is an attempt by Dems to expose those lies and give Americans a factual narrative

He can say whatever he likes as a citizen with first amendment rights. However it has no influence over our current congress on ANY issue that matters. Dems have control and need to govern rather than playing nanananabooboo with Trump.

Nobody is calling for criminal charges to be filed against Trump for his lies but they are pushing back against them. And when leadership propagates those lies which results in undermining the public confidence in our elections the it’s an issue to be taken seriously.

I'm sort of in the middle here.. . .

The right is sure that Trump won.

The left says this is a lie.

When the corporate cabal is honest, and values the process over profits, integrity over politics, when they allow those who support Trump, to have their demands met for a full exposure of how the election was conducted, including having the source code revealed. . . as a bystander, I will be satisfied.

. . . but? Calling something a "lie," until it is proven so? I am not convinced. I remember when the right called all of the left's criticisms of the 2000 and 2004's election irregularities, "lies," and again, nothing was done about it. Now the shoe seems to be on the other foot. The only difference? Their candidate is not backing down.

So, excuse me if I don't just accept the propaganda of the corporatacracy and the establishment.

Trump? He's acts the fool, sure. But Biden and his corporate masters are tyrants. I don't trust or believe any of them.

It’s a lie just for the fact that it hasn’t been proven yet is being sold as a stolen election that Trump won. So even if that statement is true and there was some kind of hack or vast conspiracy that swung the election, those calling it stolen, like it’s fact, without the evidence to prove those claims, are lying.

The fraud claims were given a chance. Over 60 judges were presented cases and not one was legit enough to even warrant a trial. Our intel agencies including Barr all said the election was legit and there is no evidence of a stolen election. We know Trump. We know he lies. We saw him set up the “rigged election” narrative in 2016 when he thought he was going to lose. We saw him try and set up a voting fraud commission to show that he actually won the popular vote. It failed. Now we predicted and saw him use the same playbook for the 2020 election. Nothing will ever satisfy the crazy here. You can look at source code or do recounts and audits in every county and there will still be seeds of doubt planted and claims of a stolen election.

You seem like a fair minded person. You’ve got to see the game being played here... right?

You keep repeating yourself and the Democrats and RINOs keep doing everything they can to block audits and investigations. The guilt might as well be tattooed on their foreheads.

You have your third count going on in AZ right now. After it flops you’ll move on to something else that I will mock you about

What makes you think it is going to flop? There must be something there when so many are trying so hard to stop it. A child could figure that out. Do you know any that could help explain it to you?

Because the election process has safeguards and Trump is a horrific liar. The game he is playing is obvious. AZ will flop but I have no doubt you will find some lame excuse

 

[MisterBeale]

Even some of the posters on here that I respected have gone full retard on ANYTHING that can even remotely be tied to Trump.

Trying to equate Jan 6th to Benghazi is just so over the top it defies logic.
Almost 2 fucking years of violent riots across the nation with around 30 murdered, countless businesses burned to the ground, countless others looted clean, government buildings literally set on fire, BILLIONS in damage, countless jobs lost....

And the 6th is somehow the end of the universe?

It’s understandable why people have had it with Trump. He just lies about everything. His supporters don’t care because it riles up the left which is why they love Trump. But in the real world lies and conspiracies are dangerous things. The Jan 6th riot and 2020 election have had false narratives around them for months that are now being parroted by leadership. That needs to be squashed and we need to strive for accountability and honesty not the current atmosphere of fight for power at all costs.

He's been gone for FOUR MONTHS but you wouldn't know it based on the nuts posting here about how he stole their lunch money or virginity...

He and Republican leadership are still propagating lies about the election. The Jan 6 investigation is an attempt by Dems to expose those lies and give Americans a factual narrative

He can say whatever he likes as a citizen with first amendment rights. However it has no influence over our current congress on ANY issue that matters. Dems have control and need to govern rather than playing nanananabooboo with Trump.

Nobody is calling for criminal charges to be filed against Trump for his lies but they are pushing back against them. And when leadership propagates those lies which results in undermining the public confidence in our elections the it’s an issue to be taken seriously.

I'm sort of in the middle here.. . .

The right is sure that Trump won.

The left says this is a lie.

When the corporate cabal is honest, and values the process over profits, integrity over politics, when they allow those who support Trump, to have their demands met for a full exposure of how the election was conducted, including having the source code revealed. . . as a bystander, I will be satisfied.

. . . but? Calling something a "lie," until it is proven so? I am not convinced. I remember when the right called all of the left's criticisms of the 2000 and 2004's election irregularities, "lies," and again, nothing was done about it. Now the shoe seems to be on the other foot. The only difference? Their candidate is not backing down.

So, excuse me if I don't just accept the propaganda of the corporatacracy and the establishment.

Trump? He's acts the fool, sure. But Biden and his corporate masters are tyrants. I don't trust or believe any of them.

It’s a lie just for the fact that it hasn’t been proven yet is being sold as a stolen election that Trump won. So even if that statement is true and there was some kind of hack or vast conspiracy that swung the election, those calling it stolen, like it’s fact, without the evidence to prove those claims, are lying.

The fraud claims were given a chance. Over 60 judges were presented cases and not one was legit enough to even warrant a trial. Our intel agencies including Barr all said the election was legit and there is no evidence of a stolen election. We know Trump. We know he lies. We saw him set up the “rigged election” narrative in 2016 when he thought he was going to lose. We saw him try and set up a voting fraud commission to show that he actually won the popular vote. It failed. Now we predicted and saw him use the same playbook for the 2020 election. Nothing will ever satisfy the crazy here. You can look at source code or do recounts and audits in every county and there will still be seeds of doubt planted and claims of a stolen election.

You seem like a fair minded person. You’ve got to see the game being played here... right?

You keep repeating yourself and the Democrats and RINOs keep doing everything they can to block audits and investigations. The guilt might as well be tattooed on their foreheads.

You have your third count going on in AZ right now. After it flops you’ll move on to something else that I will mock you about

What makes you think it is going to flop? There must be something there when so many are trying so hard to stop it. A child could figure that out. Do you know any that could help explain it to you?

Because the election process has safeguards and Trump is a horrific liar. The game he is playing is obvious. AZ will flop but I have no doubt you will find some lame excuse

Our biggest concern? Should be if it doesn't flop.

. . . if it doesn't flop, it means one of two things.

A) The election had no integrity.

B) The Deep State is screwing with everyone, on the left AND the right, to make it so that they will put in new, even more draconian control over our elections and all of our lives to control who leads us. . . IOW, they are purposely creating all this chaos.


Who the hell can be sure which it is. . . as no one can be trusted.

 

[westwall]

And yet again...

EXHIBIT A

Mac has full TDS

No, Mac is just full retard. I don't think he's smart enough to be deranged

 

[surada]

Even some of the posters on here that I respected have gone full retard on ANYTHING that can even remotely be tied to Trump.

Trying to equate Jan 6th to Benghazi is just so over the top it defies logic.
Almost 2 fucking years of violent riots across the nation with around 30 murdered, countless businesses burned to the ground, countless others looted clean, government buildings literally set on fire, BILLIONS in damage, countless jobs lost....

And the 6th is somehow the end of the universe?

How did you link Benghazi to Jan 6th?

I didn't, the left on this board have been. From Mac to a handful of others. I find the link preposterous and felt it should be pointed out.

Trump lost by 8 million votes.

 

[Magnus]

Frankly, I am all for forgetting the orange douche bag. But he won't go away. He keeps trying to get back in the news whining about his loss and his trumptard followers are no better.

 

[Lastamender]

Even some of the posters on here that I respected have gone full retard on ANYTHING that can even remotely be tied to Trump.

Trying to equate Jan 6th to Benghazi is just so over the top it defies logic.
Almost 2 fucking years of violent riots across the nation with around 30 murdered, countless businesses burned to the ground, countless others looted clean, government buildings literally set on fire, BILLIONS in damage, countless jobs lost....

And the 6th is somehow the end of the universe?

How did you link Benghazi to Jan 6th?

I didn't, the left on this board have been. From Mac to a handful of others. I find the link preposterous and felt it should be pointed out.

Trump lost by 8 million votes.

Trump was defrauded. That is not losing.

 

[Lastamender]

Frankly, I am all for forgetting the orange douche bag. But he won't go away. He keeps trying to get back in the news whining about his loss and his trumptard followers are no better.

Good, then you have no business on this thread. Bye.

 

[surada]

Even some of the posters on here that I respected have gone full retard on ANYTHING that can even remotely be tied to Trump.

Trying to equate Jan 6th to Benghazi is just so over the top it defies logic.
Almost 2 fucking years of violent riots across the nation with around 30 murdered, countless businesses burned to the ground, countless others looted clean, government buildings literally set on fire, BILLIONS in damage, countless jobs lost....

And the 6th is somehow the end of the universe?

How did you link Benghazi to Jan 6th?

I didn't, the left on this board have been. From Mac to a handful of others. I find the link preposterous and felt it should be pointed out.

Trump lost by 8 million votes.

Trump was defrauded. That is not losing.

So he claims. He won't run again, but he wants your money for his legal bills and to pay off foreign loans.

 

[Lastamender]

Even some of the posters on here that I respected have gone full retard on ANYTHING that can even remotely be tied to Trump.

Trying to equate Jan 6th to Benghazi is just so over the top it defies logic.
Almost 2 fucking years of violent riots across the nation with around 30 murdered, countless businesses burned to the ground, countless others looted clean, government buildings literally set on fire, BILLIONS in damage, countless jobs lost....

And the 6th is somehow the end of the universe?

How did you link Benghazi to Jan 6th?

I didn't, the left on this board have been. From Mac to a handful of others. I find the link preposterous and felt it should be pointed out.

Trump lost by 8 million votes.

Trump was defrauded. That is not losing.

So he claims. He won't run again, but he wants your money for his legal bills and to pay off foreign loans.

He, and 100 million others.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Even some of the posters on here that I respected have gone full retard on ANYTHING that can even remotely be tied to Trump.

Trying to equate Jan 6th to Benghazi is just so over the top it defies logic.
Almost 2 fucking years of violent riots across the nation with around 30 murdered, countless businesses burned to the ground, countless others looted clean, government buildings literally set on fire, BILLIONS in damage, countless jobs lost....

And the 6th is somehow the end of the universe?

It’s understandable why people have had it with Trump. He just lies about everything. His supporters don’t care because it riles up the left which is why they love Trump. But in the real world lies and conspiracies are dangerous things. The Jan 6th riot and 2020 election have had false narratives around them for months that are now being parroted by leadership. That needs to be squashed and we need to strive for accountability and honesty not the current atmosphere of fight for power at all costs.

He's been gone for FOUR MONTHS but you wouldn't know it based on the nuts posting here about how he stole their lunch money or virginity...

He and Republican leadership are still propagating lies about the election. The Jan 6 investigation is an attempt by Dems to expose those lies and give Americans a factual narrative

He can say whatever he likes as a citizen with first amendment rights. However it has no influence over our current congress on ANY issue that matters. Dems have control and need to govern rather than playing nanananabooboo with Trump.

Nobody is calling for criminal charges to be filed against Trump for his lies but they are pushing back against them. And when leadership propagates those lies which results in undermining the public confidence in our elections the it’s an issue to be taken seriously.

Like when Gore or Hillary made the same claims? Pft

Do you really think the claims and level of accusations tossed out by Gore or Hillary land in the same ball park of what Trump is throwing out?! Come on Gramps, get real

Yes, Gore took it to the Supreme Court ffs

Yup and then he conceded the election acting like a civilized grown up and was quiet about it. Trump took it to court, which was fine to do, but after he failed dozens of times he is still propagating lies and claiming that he won. So no, it’s nothing even close to Clinton or Gore. It’s pathetic and deplorable

Trump never got a day in court to present his evidence.
And our system has been suspect for far longer than Trump has been a factor. EVERY election we hear the drumbeat of accusations, demands for voter id, demands for more oversight etc.
Trumps behavior, no matter what you think of it, is nothing more than a side effect of the CLEAR distrust all sides have in our system.

Trump had many days in court. His lawyers could not present a legit case to move forward with. It was a PR stunt and his minions seemed to have taken the bait. Pretty sad.

Irrelevant to your original point AND the point of this thread.

 

[Slade3200]

Even some of the posters on here that I respected have gone full retard on ANYTHING that can even remotely be tied to Trump.

Trying to equate Jan 6th to Benghazi is just so over the top it defies logic.
Almost 2 fucking years of violent riots across the nation with around 30 murdered, countless businesses burned to the ground, countless others looted clean, government buildings literally set on fire, BILLIONS in damage, countless jobs lost....

And the 6th is somehow the end of the universe?

It’s understandable why people have had it with Trump. He just lies about everything. His supporters don’t care because it riles up the left which is why they love Trump. But in the real world lies and conspiracies are dangerous things. The Jan 6th riot and 2020 election have had false narratives around them for months that are now being parroted by leadership. That needs to be squashed and we need to strive for accountability and honesty not the current atmosphere of fight for power at all costs.

He's been gone for FOUR MONTHS but you wouldn't know it based on the nuts posting here about how he stole their lunch money or virginity...

He and Republican leadership are still propagating lies about the election. The Jan 6 investigation is an attempt by Dems to expose those lies and give Americans a factual narrative

He can say whatever he likes as a citizen with first amendment rights. However it has no influence over our current congress on ANY issue that matters. Dems have control and need to govern rather than playing nanananabooboo with Trump.

Nobody is calling for criminal charges to be filed against Trump for his lies but they are pushing back against them. And when leadership propagates those lies which results in undermining the public confidence in our elections the it’s an issue to be taken seriously.

I'm sort of in the middle here.. . .

The right is sure that Trump won.

The left says this is a lie.

When the corporate cabal is honest, and values the process over profits, integrity over politics, when they allow those who support Trump, to have their demands met for a full exposure of how the election was conducted, including having the source code revealed. . . as a bystander, I will be satisfied.

. . . but? Calling something a "lie," until it is proven so? I am not convinced. I remember when the right called all of the left's criticisms of the 2000 and 2004's election irregularities, "lies," and again, nothing was done about it. Now the shoe seems to be on the other foot. The only difference? Their candidate is not backing down.

So, excuse me if I don't just accept the propaganda of the corporatacracy and the establishment.

Trump? He's acts the fool, sure. But Biden and his corporate masters are tyrants. I don't trust or believe any of them.

It’s a lie just for the fact that it hasn’t been proven yet is being sold as a stolen election that Trump won. So even if that statement is true and there was some kind of hack or vast conspiracy that swung the election, those calling it stolen, like it’s fact, without the evidence to prove those claims, are lying.

The fraud claims were given a chance. Over 60 judges were presented cases and not one was legit enough to even warrant a trial. Our intel agencies including Barr all said the election was legit and there is no evidence of a stolen election. We know Trump. We know he lies. We saw him set up the “rigged election” narrative in 2016 when he thought he was going to lose. We saw him try and set up a voting fraud commission to show that he actually won the popular vote. It failed. Now we predicted and saw him use the same playbook for the 2020 election. Nothing will ever satisfy the crazy here. You can look at source code or do recounts and audits in every county and there will still be seeds of doubt planted and claims of a stolen election.

You seem like a fair minded person. You’ve got to see the game being played here... right?

You keep repeating yourself and the Democrats and RINOs keep doing everything they can to block audits and investigations. The guilt might as well be tattooed on their foreheads.

You have your third count going on in AZ right now. After it flops you’ll move on to something else that I will mock you about

What makes you think it is going to flop? There must be something there when so many are trying so hard to stop it. A child could figure that out. Do you know any that could help explain it to you?

Because the election process has safeguards and Trump is a horrific liar. The game he is playing is obvious. AZ will flop but I have no doubt you will find some lame excuse

Our biggest concern? Should be if it doesn't flop.

. . . if it doesn't flop, it means one of two things.

A) The election had no integrity.

B) The Deep State is screwing with everyone, on the left AND the right, to make it so that they will put in new, even more draconian control over our elections and all of our lives to control who leads us. . . IOW, they are purposely creating all this chaos.


Who the hell can be sure which it is. . . as no one can be trusted.

You realize the election is a compilation of many hundred independent districts with in 50 different states,right? It’s not one processes that the cabal can control.
Per your concerns, yes it would be a concern if something serious shows up in the recount. I seriously doubt anything will.

Will you have concerns if nothing shows up but perhaps some Minor insignificant discrepancies? Would you be concerned about the tremendous effort being put forth to undermine the public confidence in our elections?

 

[Slade3200]

Even some of the posters on here that I respected have gone full retard on ANYTHING that can even remotely be tied to Trump.

Trying to equate Jan 6th to Benghazi is just so over the top it defies logic.
Almost 2 fucking years of violent riots across the nation with around 30 murdered, countless businesses burned to the ground, countless others looted clean, government buildings literally set on fire, BILLIONS in damage, countless jobs lost....

And the 6th is somehow the end of the universe?

It’s understandable why people have had it with Trump. He just lies about everything. His supporters don’t care because it riles up the left which is why they love Trump. But in the real world lies and conspiracies are dangerous things. The Jan 6th riot and 2020 election have had false narratives around them for months that are now being parroted by leadership. That needs to be squashed and we need to strive for accountability and honesty not the current atmosphere of fight for power at all costs.

He's been gone for FOUR MONTHS but you wouldn't know it based on the nuts posting here about how he stole their lunch money or virginity...

He and Republican leadership are still propagating lies about the election. The Jan 6 investigation is an attempt by Dems to expose those lies and give Americans a factual narrative

He can say whatever he likes as a citizen with first amendment rights. However it has no influence over our current congress on ANY issue that matters. Dems have control and need to govern rather than playing nanananabooboo with Trump.

Nobody is calling for criminal charges to be filed against Trump for his lies but they are pushing back against them. And when leadership propagates those lies which results in undermining the public confidence in our elections the it’s an issue to be taken seriously.

I'm sort of in the middle here.. . .

The right is sure that Trump won.

The left says this is a lie.

When the corporate cabal is honest, and values the process over profits, integrity over politics, when they allow those who support Trump, to have their demands met for a full exposure of how the election was conducted, including having the source code revealed. . . as a bystander, I will be satisfied.

. . . but? Calling something a "lie," until it is proven so? I am not convinced. I remember when the right called all of the left's criticisms of the 2000 and 2004's election irregularities, "lies," and again, nothing was done about it. Now the shoe seems to be on the other foot. The only difference? Their candidate is not backing down.

So, excuse me if I don't just accept the propaganda of the corporatacracy and the establishment.

Trump? He's acts the fool, sure. But Biden and his corporate masters are tyrants. I don't trust or believe any of them.

It’s a lie just for the fact that it hasn’t been proven yet is being sold as a stolen election that Trump won. So even if that statement is true and there was some kind of hack or vast conspiracy that swung the election, those calling it stolen, like it’s fact, without the evidence to prove those claims, are lying.

The fraud claims were given a chance. Over 60 judges were presented cases and not one was legit enough to even warrant a trial. Our intel agencies including Barr all said the election was legit and there is no evidence of a stolen election. We know Trump. We know he lies. We saw him set up the “rigged election” narrative in 2016 when he thought he was going to lose. We saw him try and set up a voting fraud commission to show that he actually won the popular vote. It failed. Now we predicted and saw him use the same playbook for the 2020 election. Nothing will ever satisfy the crazy here. You can look at source code or do recounts and audits in every county and there will still be seeds of doubt planted and claims of a stolen election.

You seem like a fair minded person. You’ve got to see the game being played here... right?

You keep repeating yourself and the Democrats and RINOs keep doing everything they can to block audits and investigations. The guilt might as well be tattooed on their foreheads.

You have your third count going on in AZ right now. After it flops you’ll move on to something else that I will mock you about

What makes you think it is going to flop? There must be something there when so many are trying so hard to stop it. A child could figure that out. Do you know any that could help explain it to you?

Because the election process has safeguards and Trump is a horrific liar. The game he is playing is obvious. AZ will flop but I have no doubt you will find some lame excuse

When all you got are emojis you know you lost the argument. Thanks for playing

 

[Lastamender]

Even some of the posters on here that I respected have gone full retard on ANYTHING that can even remotely be tied to Trump.

Trying to equate Jan 6th to Benghazi is just so over the top it defies logic.
Almost 2 fucking years of violent riots across the nation with around 30 murdered, countless businesses burned to the ground, countless others looted clean, government buildings literally set on fire, BILLIONS in damage, countless jobs lost....

And the 6th is somehow the end of the universe?

It’s understandable why people have had it with Trump. He just lies about everything. His supporters don’t care because it riles up the left which is why they love Trump. But in the real world lies and conspiracies are dangerous things. The Jan 6th riot and 2020 election have had false narratives around them for months that are now being parroted by leadership. That needs to be squashed and we need to strive for accountability and honesty not the current atmosphere of fight for power at all costs.

He's been gone for FOUR MONTHS but you wouldn't know it based on the nuts posting here about how he stole their lunch money or virginity...

He and Republican leadership are still propagating lies about the election. The Jan 6 investigation is an attempt by Dems to expose those lies and give Americans a factual narrative

He can say whatever he likes as a citizen with first amendment rights. However it has no influence over our current congress on ANY issue that matters. Dems have control and need to govern rather than playing nanananabooboo with Trump.

Nobody is calling for criminal charges to be filed against Trump for his lies but they are pushing back against them. And when leadership propagates those lies which results in undermining the public confidence in our elections the it’s an issue to be taken seriously.

I'm sort of in the middle here.. . .

The right is sure that Trump won.

The left says this is a lie.

When the corporate cabal is honest, and values the process over profits, integrity over politics, when they allow those who support Trump, to have their demands met for a full exposure of how the election was conducted, including having the source code revealed. . . as a bystander, I will be satisfied.

. . . but? Calling something a "lie," until it is proven so? I am not convinced. I remember when the right called all of the left's criticisms of the 2000 and 2004's election irregularities, "lies," and again, nothing was done about it. Now the shoe seems to be on the other foot. The only difference? Their candidate is not backing down.

So, excuse me if I don't just accept the propaganda of the corporatacracy and the establishment.

Trump? He's acts the fool, sure. But Biden and his corporate masters are tyrants. I don't trust or believe any of them.

It’s a lie just for the fact that it hasn’t been proven yet is being sold as a stolen election that Trump won. So even if that statement is true and there was some kind of hack or vast conspiracy that swung the election, those calling it stolen, like it’s fact, without the evidence to prove those claims, are lying.

The fraud claims were given a chance. Over 60 judges were presented cases and not one was legit enough to even warrant a trial. Our intel agencies including Barr all said the election was legit and there is no evidence of a stolen election. We know Trump. We know he lies. We saw him set up the “rigged election” narrative in 2016 when he thought he was going to lose. We saw him try and set up a voting fraud commission to show that he actually won the popular vote. It failed. Now we predicted and saw him use the same playbook for the 2020 election. Nothing will ever satisfy the crazy here. You can look at source code or do recounts and audits in every county and there will still be seeds of doubt planted and claims of a stolen election.

You seem like a fair minded person. You’ve got to see the game being played here... right?

You keep repeating yourself and the Democrats and RINOs keep doing everything they can to block audits and investigations. The guilt might as well be tattooed on their foreheads.

You have your third count going on in AZ right now. After it flops you’ll move on to something else that I will mock you about

What makes you think it is going to flop? There must be something there when so many are trying so hard to stop it. A child could figure that out. Do you know any that could help explain it to you?

Because the election process has safeguards and Trump is a horrific liar. The game he is playing is obvious. AZ will flop but I have no doubt you will find some lame excuse

When all you got is emojis you know you lost the argument. Thanks for playing

No, that is when you mention Hitler.

 

[Slade3200]

Even some of the posters on here that I respected have gone full retard on ANYTHING that can even remotely be tied to Trump.

Trying to equate Jan 6th to Benghazi is just so over the top it defies logic.
Almost 2 fucking years of violent riots across the nation with around 30 murdered, countless businesses burned to the ground, countless others looted clean, government buildings literally set on fire, BILLIONS in damage, countless jobs lost....

And the 6th is somehow the end of the universe?

It’s understandable why people have had it with Trump. He just lies about everything. His supporters don’t care because it riles up the left which is why they love Trump. But in the real world lies and conspiracies are dangerous things. The Jan 6th riot and 2020 election have had false narratives around them for months that are now being parroted by leadership. That needs to be squashed and we need to strive for accountability and honesty not the current atmosphere of fight for power at all costs.

He's been gone for FOUR MONTHS but you wouldn't know it based on the nuts posting here about how he stole their lunch money or virginity...

He and Republican leadership are still propagating lies about the election. The Jan 6 investigation is an attempt by Dems to expose those lies and give Americans a factual narrative

He can say whatever he likes as a citizen with first amendment rights. However it has no influence over our current congress on ANY issue that matters. Dems have control and need to govern rather than playing nanananabooboo with Trump.

Nobody is calling for criminal charges to be filed against Trump for his lies but they are pushing back against them. And when leadership propagates those lies which results in undermining the public confidence in our elections the it’s an issue to be taken seriously.

Like when Gore or Hillary made the same claims? Pft

Do you really think the claims and level of accusations tossed out by Gore or Hillary land in the same ball park of what Trump is throwing out?! Come on Gramps, get real

Yes, Gore took it to the Supreme Court ffs

Yup and then he conceded the election acting like a civilized grown up and was quiet about it. Trump took it to court, which was fine to do, but after he failed dozens of times he is still propagating lies and claiming that he won. So no, it’s nothing even close to Clinton or Gore. It’s pathetic and deplorable

Trump never got a day in court to present his evidence.
And our system has been suspect for far longer than Trump has been a factor. EVERY election we hear the drumbeat of accusations, demands for voter id, demands for more oversight etc.
Trumps behavior, no matter what you think of it, is nothing more than a side effect of the CLEAR distrust all sides have in our system.

Trump had many days in court. His lawyers could not present a legit case to move forward with. It was a PR stunt and his minions seemed to have taken the bait. Pretty sad.

Irrelevant to your original point AND the point of this thread.

Irrelevant?! You literally just said Trump didn’t get his day in court and I responded to that. If my response to your comment is irrelevant then your initial statement that I was responding to was where the irrelevance came from. Way to avoid engaging though.

 

[Magnus]

Even some of the posters on here that I respected have gone full retard on ANYTHING that can even remotely be tied to Trump.

Trying to equate Jan 6th to Benghazi is just so over the top it defies logic.
Almost 2 fucking years of violent riots across the nation with around 30 murdered, countless businesses burned to the ground, countless others looted clean, government buildings literally set on fire, BILLIONS in damage, countless jobs lost....

And the 6th is somehow the end of the universe?

How did you link Benghazi to Jan 6th?

I didn't, the left on this board have been. From Mac to a handful of others. I find the link preposterous and felt it should be pointed out.

Trump lost by 8 million votes.

Trump was defrauded. That is not losing.

So he claims. He won't run again, but he wants your money for his legal bills and to pay off foreign loans.

Yup. The guy is just a grifter.

 

[Slade3200]

Even some of the posters on here that I respected have gone full retard on ANYTHING that can even remotely be tied to Trump.

Trying to equate Jan 6th to Benghazi is just so over the top it defies logic.
Almost 2 fucking years of violent riots across the nation with around 30 murdered, countless businesses burned to the ground, countless others looted clean, government buildings literally set on fire, BILLIONS in damage, countless jobs lost....

And the 6th is somehow the end of the universe?

It’s understandable why people have had it with Trump. He just lies about everything. His supporters don’t care because it riles up the left which is why they love Trump. But in the real world lies and conspiracies are dangerous things. The Jan 6th riot and 2020 election have had false narratives around them for months that are now being parroted by leadership. That needs to be squashed and we need to strive for accountability and honesty not the current atmosphere of fight for power at all costs.

He's been gone for FOUR MONTHS but you wouldn't know it based on the nuts posting here about how he stole their lunch money or virginity...

He and Republican leadership are still propagating lies about the election. The Jan 6 investigation is an attempt by Dems to expose those lies and give Americans a factual narrative

He can say whatever he likes as a citizen with first amendment rights. However it has no influence over our current congress on ANY issue that matters. Dems have control and need to govern rather than playing nanananabooboo with Trump.

Nobody is calling for criminal charges to be filed against Trump for his lies but they are pushing back against them. And when leadership propagates those lies which results in undermining the public confidence in our elections the it’s an issue to be taken seriously.

I'm sort of in the middle here.. . .

The right is sure that Trump won.

The left says this is a lie.

When the corporate cabal is honest, and values the process over profits, integrity over politics, when they allow those who support Trump, to have their demands met for a full exposure of how the election was conducted, including having the source code revealed. . . as a bystander, I will be satisfied.

. . . but? Calling something a "lie," until it is proven so? I am not convinced. I remember when the right called all of the left's criticisms of the 2000 and 2004's election irregularities, "lies," and again, nothing was done about it. Now the shoe seems to be on the other foot. The only difference? Their candidate is not backing down.

So, excuse me if I don't just accept the propaganda of the corporatacracy and the establishment.

Trump? He's acts the fool, sure. But Biden and his corporate masters are tyrants. I don't trust or believe any of them.

It’s a lie just for the fact that it hasn’t been proven yet is being sold as a stolen election that Trump won. So even if that statement is true and there was some kind of hack or vast conspiracy that swung the election, those calling it stolen, like it’s fact, without the evidence to prove those claims, are lying.

The fraud claims were given a chance. Over 60 judges were presented cases and not one was legit enough to even warrant a trial. Our intel agencies including Barr all said the election was legit and there is no evidence of a stolen election. We know Trump. We know he lies. We saw him set up the “rigged election” narrative in 2016 when he thought he was going to lose. We saw him try and set up a voting fraud commission to show that he actually won the popular vote. It failed. Now we predicted and saw him use the same playbook for the 2020 election. Nothing will ever satisfy the crazy here. You can look at source code or do recounts and audits in every county and there will still be seeds of doubt planted and claims of a stolen election.

You seem like a fair minded person. You’ve got to see the game being played here... right?

You keep repeating yourself and the Democrats and RINOs keep doing everything they can to block audits and investigations. The guilt might as well be tattooed on their foreheads.

You have your third count going on in AZ right now. After it flops you’ll move on to something else that I will mock you about

What makes you think it is going to flop? There must be something there when so many are trying so hard to stop it. A child could figure that out. Do you know any that could help explain it to you?

Because the election process has safeguards and Trump is a horrific liar. The game he is playing is obvious. AZ will flop but I have no doubt you will find some lame excuse

When all you got is emojis you know you lost the argument. Thanks for playing

No, that is when you mention Hitler.

I never said a word about Hitler.

 

[Lastamender]

Even some of the posters on here that I respected have gone full retard on ANYTHING that can even remotely be tied to Trump.

Trying to equate Jan 6th to Benghazi is just so over the top it defies logic.
Almost 2 fucking years of violent riots across the nation with around 30 murdered, countless businesses burned to the ground, countless others looted clean, government buildings literally set on fire, BILLIONS in damage, countless jobs lost....

And the 6th is somehow the end of the universe?

It’s understandable why people have had it with Trump. He just lies about everything. His supporters don’t care because it riles up the left which is why they love Trump. But in the real world lies and conspiracies are dangerous things. The Jan 6th riot and 2020 election have had false narratives around them for months that are now being parroted by leadership. That needs to be squashed and we need to strive for accountability and honesty not the current atmosphere of fight for power at all costs.

He's been gone for FOUR MONTHS but you wouldn't know it based on the nuts posting here about how he stole their lunch money or virginity...

He and Republican leadership are still propagating lies about the election. The Jan 6 investigation is an attempt by Dems to expose those lies and give Americans a factual narrative

He can say whatever he likes as a citizen with first amendment rights. However it has no influence over our current congress on ANY issue that matters. Dems have control and need to govern rather than playing nanananabooboo with Trump.

Nobody is calling for criminal charges to be filed against Trump for his lies but they are pushing back against them. And when leadership propagates those lies which results in undermining the public confidence in our elections the it’s an issue to be taken seriously.

I'm sort of in the middle here.. . .

The right is sure that Trump won.

The left says this is a lie.

When the corporate cabal is honest, and values the process over profits, integrity over politics, when they allow those who support Trump, to have their demands met for a full exposure of how the election was conducted, including having the source code revealed. . . as a bystander, I will be satisfied.

. . . but? Calling something a "lie," until it is proven so? I am not convinced. I remember when the right called all of the left's criticisms of the 2000 and 2004's election irregularities, "lies," and again, nothing was done about it. Now the shoe seems to be on the other foot. The only difference? Their candidate is not backing down.

So, excuse me if I don't just accept the propaganda of the corporatacracy and the establishment.

Trump? He's acts the fool, sure. But Biden and his corporate masters are tyrants. I don't trust or believe any of them.

It’s a lie just for the fact that it hasn’t been proven yet is being sold as a stolen election that Trump won. So even if that statement is true and there was some kind of hack or vast conspiracy that swung the election, those calling it stolen, like it’s fact, without the evidence to prove those claims, are lying.

The fraud claims were given a chance. Over 60 judges were presented cases and not one was legit enough to even warrant a trial. Our intel agencies including Barr all said the election was legit and there is no evidence of a stolen election. We know Trump. We know he lies. We saw him set up the “rigged election” narrative in 2016 when he thought he was going to lose. We saw him try and set up a voting fraud commission to show that he actually won the popular vote. It failed. Now we predicted and saw him use the same playbook for the 2020 election. Nothing will ever satisfy the crazy here. You can look at source code or do recounts and audits in every county and there will still be seeds of doubt planted and claims of a stolen election.

You seem like a fair minded person. You’ve got to see the game being played here... right?

You keep repeating yourself and the Democrats and RINOs keep doing everything they can to block audits and investigations. The guilt might as well be tattooed on their foreheads.

You have your third count going on in AZ right now. After it flops you’ll move on to something else that I will mock you about

What makes you think it is going to flop? There must be something there when so many are trying so hard to stop it. A child could figure that out. Do you know any that could help explain it to you?

Because the election process has safeguards and Trump is a horrific liar. The game he is playing is obvious. AZ will flop but I have no doubt you will find some lame excuse

When all you got is emojis you know you lost the argument. Thanks for playing

No, that is when you mention Hitler.

I never said a word about Hitler.

I did not say you did. Comprehension is your friend.

 

[Slade3200]

Even some of the posters on here that I respected have gone full retard on ANYTHING that can even remotely be tied to Trump.

Trying to equate Jan 6th to Benghazi is just so over the top it defies logic.
Almost 2 fucking years of violent riots across the nation with around 30 murdered, countless businesses burned to the ground, countless others looted clean, government buildings literally set on fire, BILLIONS in damage, countless jobs lost....

And the 6th is somehow the end of the universe?

It’s understandable why people have had it with Trump. He just lies about everything. His supporters don’t care because it riles up the left which is why they love Trump. But in the real world lies and conspiracies are dangerous things. The Jan 6th riot and 2020 election have had false narratives around them for months that are now being parroted by leadership. That needs to be squashed and we need to strive for accountability and honesty not the current atmosphere of fight for power at all costs.

He's been gone for FOUR MONTHS but you wouldn't know it based on the nuts posting here about how he stole their lunch money or virginity...

He and Republican leadership are still propagating lies about the election. The Jan 6 investigation is an attempt by Dems to expose those lies and give Americans a factual narrative

He can say whatever he likes as a citizen with first amendment rights. However it has no influence over our current congress on ANY issue that matters. Dems have control and need to govern rather than playing nanananabooboo with Trump.

Nobody is calling for criminal charges to be filed against Trump for his lies but they are pushing back against them. And when leadership propagates those lies which results in undermining the public confidence in our elections the it’s an issue to be taken seriously.

I'm sort of in the middle here.. . .

The right is sure that Trump won.

The left says this is a lie.

When the corporate cabal is honest, and values the process over profits, integrity over politics, when they allow those who support Trump, to have their demands met for a full exposure of how the election was conducted, including having the source code revealed. . . as a bystander, I will be satisfied.

. . . but? Calling something a "lie," until it is proven so? I am not convinced. I remember when the right called all of the left's criticisms of the 2000 and 2004's election irregularities, "lies," and again, nothing was done about it. Now the shoe seems to be on the other foot. The only difference? Their candidate is not backing down.

So, excuse me if I don't just accept the propaganda of the corporatacracy and the establishment.

Trump? He's acts the fool, sure. But Biden and his corporate masters are tyrants. I don't trust or believe any of them.

It’s a lie just for the fact that it hasn’t been proven yet is being sold as a stolen election that Trump won. So even if that statement is true and there was some kind of hack or vast conspiracy that swung the election, those calling it stolen, like it’s fact, without the evidence to prove those claims, are lying.

The fraud claims were given a chance. Over 60 judges were presented cases and not one was legit enough to even warrant a trial. Our intel agencies including Barr all said the election was legit and there is no evidence of a stolen election. We know Trump. We know he lies. We saw him set up the “rigged election” narrative in 2016 when he thought he was going to lose. We saw him try and set up a voting fraud commission to show that he actually won the popular vote. It failed. Now we predicted and saw him use the same playbook for the 2020 election. Nothing will ever satisfy the crazy here. You can look at source code or do recounts and audits in every county and there will still be seeds of doubt planted and claims of a stolen election.

You seem like a fair minded person. You’ve got to see the game being played here... right?

You keep repeating yourself and the Democrats and RINOs keep doing everything they can to block audits and investigations. The guilt might as well be tattooed on their foreheads.

You have your third count going on in AZ right now. After it flops you’ll move on to something else that I will mock you about

What makes you think it is going to flop? There must be something there when so many are trying so hard to stop it. A child could figure that out. Do you know any that could help explain it to you?

Because the election process has safeguards and Trump is a horrific liar. The game he is playing is obvious. AZ will flop but I have no doubt you will find some lame excuse

When all you got is emojis you know you lost the argument. Thanks for playing

No, that is when you mention Hitler.

I never said a word about Hitler.

I did not say you did. Comprehension is your friend.

Why are you talking about Hitler then dumbass? And why are you responding with cartoons?? Cause you can’t defend the idiotic narrative you keep pushing