It could take a decade to undo damage to the Republican Party caused by Fox News promoting election fraud claims, says former GOP official

[JimH52]

Is it more secure to have someone come to the poll with an ID and vote in person? Why do other countries vote this way? I think the answer is pretty obvious.

But trump has voted mail in for years and that is okay? Please.....

 

[JimH52]

Is it more secure to have someone come to the poll with an ID and vote in person? Why do other countries vote this way? I think the answer is pretty obvious.

There is STILL no evidence of widespread voter fraud like trump claimed. He is a Moron.

 

[surada]

Progs are never going to convince half the population or so that they did not usurp the rules at least to win elections. Progs have found the golden key to win. In the end we all will lose. And at least the half you cannot stand will get to see a measure of vengeance as Progs will be in the same nasty situation. The elites are laughing at the citizens as they front to them some of the worst people possible in elections. The current federal administration is the worst in American history.

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[Marener]

Progs are never going to convince half the population or so that they did not usurp the rules at least to win elections. Progs have found the golden key to win. In the end we all will lose. And at least the half you cannot stand will get to see a measure of vengeance as Progs will be in the same nasty situation. The elites are laughing at the citizens as they front to them some of the worst people possible in elections. The current federal administration is the worst in American history.

I can’t convince you the election wasn’t stolen because your belief isn’t based in facts. When someone believes something for emotional reasons, no facts can change their mind.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

In-person voting would apply to everyone

It can only be partisan if democrats are doing all the cheating through mail-in ballots

Your unwarranted, wrong-headed opposition to voting by mail is based on your belief that most Democrats vote by mail; eliminate voting by mail and you eliminate Democratic votes.

 

[JimH52]

I can’t convince you the election wasn’t stolen because your belief isn’t based in facts. When someone believes something for emotional reasons, no facts can change their mind.

The basic problem is many, many of trump's supporters have taken his word on "massive voter fraud", rather than rely on the facts. The facts prove that there was NO massive voter fraud that would change the outcome in in state that trump challenged. Think about it:

trump's followers are taking his word and ignoring the law, court cases, the consulting firm that showed there was no massive voter fraud, and even his Attorney General at the time. If you follow the logic, trump's followers are taking the word of a man who is a proficient liar and grifter. Why they cannot see that, I cannot explain? It is as if facts, and truth have become white noise supplanted by the lies of one man. That is astonishing!

 

[JimH52]

Your unwarranted, wrong-headed opposition to voting by mail is based on your belief that most Democrats vote by mail; eliminate voting by mail and you eliminate Democratic votes.

Voting by mail was never as issue until trump's Big Lie. That lie was concocted years before he lost to Biden. But the faithful, and terribly confused, cult still hang onto the that falsehood.

 

[surada]

The mob mentality has taken the GOP. Damn a demagogue.

What to expect from this yearâs CPAC: Biden bashing, 2024 Republican primary chatter and lawsuit gossip

The gathering of conservatives returns to Washington and could prove to be a crystal ball into the GOP’s 2024 outlook

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[surada]

Waaaay too much evidence proving how Dims stole the 2020 election. The best evidence is just watching Poopeypants. Even you idiots aren't stupid enough to have voted for him.

The demagogue has sold you a lie. Too late
The mob has taken the GOP.

What to expect from this yearâs CPAC: Biden bashing, 2024 Republican primary chatter and lawsuit gossip

The gathering of conservatives returns to Washington and could prove to be a crystal ball into the GOP’s 2024 outlook

www.theguardian.com

 

[JimH52]

The demagogue has sold you a lie. Too late
The mob has taken the GOP.

What to expect from this yearâs CPAC: Biden bashing, 2024 Republican primary chatter and lawsuit gossip

The gathering of conservatives returns to Washington and could prove to be a crystal ball into the GOP’s 2024 outlook

www.theguardian.com

jbrownson0831 is beyond redemption. Stupid is too kind of a word.

 

[DBA]

I don’t know what you mean by that because the rules were different all over the country before during and after pandemic.

Not in the all important swing states.

 

[DBA]

There is STILL no evidence of widespread voter fraud like trump claimed. He is a Moron.

Because it is hard to prove widespread voter fraud with mass mail in balloting. Each individual case must be examined, which is essentially impossible. There isn’t necessarily a truck load of ballots being dropped off at the polling station in the middle of the night. Let individuals take advantage of a system that is ripe for fraud. That is kind of the beauty of the scheme for Democrats.

Again, the tell tell sign is that it is Democrats that don’t want voter id and in person voting. That should tell you everything you need to know about which party is taking advantage of the system that is very easy to manipulate.

 

[DBA]

But trump has voted mail in for years and that is okay? Please.....

Please is right. Don’t be stupid. Restrictions were lifted around who could vote absentee in many states, including the states that ended up deciding the 2020 election. Anybody who has been following along knows this.

 

[Marener]

Not in the all important swing states.

Again, I don't really know what you mean. The rules were different among the swing states too. Some had liberal mail in voting policies, some didn't. Some required IDs. Some didn't. Some have changed their rules a lot. Some haven't.

A lot of these swing states had much stricter mail in voting rules than some red states.

 

[Marener]

Because it is hard to prove widespread voter fraud with mass mail in balloting. Each individual case must be examined, which is essentially impossible. There isn’t necessarily a truck load of ballots being dropped off at the polling station in the middle of the night. Let individuals take advantage of a system that is ripe for fraud. That is kind of the beauty of the scheme for Democrats.

Again, the tell tell sign is that it is Democrats that don’t want voter id and in person voting. That should tell you everything you need to know about which party is taking advantage of the system that is very easy to manipulate.

If there were widespread voting fraud, it would be noticeable.

 

[DBA]

If there were widespread voting fraud, it would be noticeable.

How “widespread” did it really need to be when Biden ”won” Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin by a total of 313,253 votes? How widespread does it really need to be when .19% of the total votes cast decided the election? Excluding Michigan, the gap was only 159,065, which was only 1/10th of 1 percent.

 

[Marener]

How “widespread” did it really need to be when Biden ”won” Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin by a total of 313,253 votes? How widespread does it really need to be when .19% of the total votes cast decided the election? Excluding Michigan, the gap was only 159,065, which was only 1/10th of 1 percent.

That’s still way too many to leave no trace.

 

[DBA]

That’s still way too many to leave no trace.

No, not at all and there wasn’t no trace, just not enough they could find that would make up the gap. Again, problem solved even if these states enforced absentee balloting rules that existed pre-COVID or better yet, require in person voting with ID. Far, far more difficult to cheat. I am for it. Most Republicans are for it. Democrats hate the idea.

 

[Marener]

No, not at all and there wasn’t no trace, just not enough they could find that would make up the gap. Again, problem solved even if these states enforced absentte balloting rules that existed pre-COVID or better yet, require in person voting with ID. Far, far more difficult to cheat. I am for it. Most Republicans are for it. Democrats hate the idea.

A Republican tried this on a far smaller scale in 2018 in North Carolina and was caught right away.

It’s already extremely difficult to cheat on any scale let alone the massive scale that you are claiming.

And no, Republicans are not doing away with absentee balloting. You keep saying that, it’s not happening.

 

[MagicMike]

Because it is hard to prove widespread voter fraud with mass mail in balloting. Each individual case must be examined, which is essentially impossible. There isn’t necessarily a truck load of ballots being dropped off at the polling station in the middle of the night. Let individuals take advantage of a system that is ripe for fraud. That is kind of the beauty of the scheme for Democrats.

Again, the tell tell sign is that it is Democrats that don’t want voter id and in person voting. That should tell you everything you need to know about which party is taking advantage of the system that is very easy to manipulate.

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