Israeli Official Spills: We Knew Obama Wanted ‘Revenge’

[konradv]

Of course, Israel sits in the middle of this, with no say on the negotiating process. So what do you expect them to do? Sit there and take it? Israel has to act in the best interests of its survival, not your sensitivities, ma'am.

What's weird is that you give Israel this consideration, but not the president of the U.S. If Israel must do what's best for Israel, then why can't the U.S. do what's best for the U.S.?

 

[Antares]

________________________
What is that?

It's the line in the sand.

Please don't confuse me with someone who gives a shit what you anti Semites think, every one of you like your King chooses Radical Islam over a Democratic Ally.

 

[Coyote]

Obama is a disgrace, fuck him and everyone who supports him. I'm good with the hatred that will come my way.

Well, hate seems to come as second nature to the right these days. Then in the next breath they'll talk about this being a Christian nation!

They've struck a new low. Even the Dems, as much as they hated Bush, never applauded foreign nations for spying us or placed foreign rulers like Putin or Netanyahu above our own President - regardless of who occupied that position. The level of hate is unbelievable.

Of course, Israel sits in the middle of this, with no say on the negotiating process. So what do you expect them to do? Sit there and take it? Israel has to act in the best interests of its survival, not your sensitivities, ma'am.

Israel, along with Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Syria, Iraq, Yeman, Oman, Qatar, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Turkmanistan, etc.

Would you be applauding Pakistan if it was leaking secret information attempting to scuttle diplomacy? Saudi Arabia? Would you be making excuses for Yeman spying on us? Or, are you sensitivities limited sir?

Israel certainly should act in it's own interests, but I would expect Americans to act in American interests - not applauding foreign spying.

I am going to accuse you of a bit of hero worship, Coyote. Obama does not in fact have a halo around his head, and he can do a lot of wrong. He already doesn't like Netanyahu, and for good reason, Netanyahu is a threat to him, and it shows. He [Obama] knows what Iran wants to do to Israel, yet he continues without considering the implications to Israel.

It may surprise you to know that I never thought Obama has a halo around his head and he can be wrong. You and I will certainly disagree on just what that is.

Netanyahu is no threat to Obama, in fact - Netanyahu is alone responsible for any consequences his behavior may have caused. He has two more years of having to work with a key - HUGELY key ally, who's good will he needs more than we need his.

As Americans, I would have thought American interests come first, regardless of how you feel about a particular President. I am quite certain that my feelings about Bush line up with yours on Obama, but I never applauded foreign countries spying on us or attempting to damage negotiations.

 

[Rocko]

Of course, Israel sits in the middle of this, with no say on the negotiating process. So what do you expect them to do? Sit there and take it? Israel has to act in the best interests of its survival, not your sensitivities, ma'am.

What's weird is that you give Israel this consideration, but not the president of the U.S. If Israel must do what's best for Israel, then why can't the U.S. do what's best for the U.S.?

Our interest in stoping Iran from getting the bomb is mutual, comrade, but Hussein and his worshippers don't see it that way.

 

[Coyote]

________________________
What is that?

It's the line in the sand.

Please don't confuse me with someone who gives a shit what you anti Semites think, every one of you like your King chooses Radical Islam over a Democratic Ally.

Oh yes. Disagree with Israel and we're all "anti-semites". That card gets old fast.

 

[Coyote]

Love seeing the traitors spilling their guts for America here.

Obama is a traitor to the nation.

Israel isn't our nation. Why do the wingnuts keep forgetting that?

Israel is a loyal ally, too bad this administration hasn't the same sense of loyalty and commitment.

Do "loyal allies" spy on us? Leak sensitive information on ongoing negotiations?

(smile) Your King has betrayed our allies.

Iran is our Mortal enemy, if you don't know that you are dismissed as a ninny.

Hyperbole much?

 

[LoneLaugher]

I'd like to see BiBi get on a stage and do what Ghani did today. Thank the US taxpayers for our support.

 

[konradv]

Our interest in stoping Iran from getting the bomb is mutual, comrade, but Hussein and his worshippers don't see it that way.

Your knowledge of what Obama is doing doesn't impress me, rockhead.

 

[Antares]

________________________
What is that?

It's the line in the sand.

Please don't confuse me with someone who gives a shit what you anti Semites think, every one of you like your King chooses Radical Islam over a Democratic Ally.

Oh yes. Disagree with Israel and we're all "anti-semites". That card gets old fast.

Obama has betrayed an ally.

Obama is a traitor, I detest him and I detest his followers.

It is what it is.

As a Mod you should be more concerned with LL and his off topic troll.

(shrugs) Oh well.

 

[Rocko]

I'd like to see BiBi get on a stage and do what Ghani did today. Thank the US taxpayers for our support.

Maybe you missed his congressional speach where he did that. Idiot.

 

[Rocko]

Our interest in stoping Iran from getting the bomb is mutual, comrade, but Hussein and his worshippers don't see it that way.

Your knowledge of what Obama is doing doesn't impress me, rockhead.

Well good thing I don't give a flying fuck, asshole.

 

[Preacher]

Love seeing the traitors spilling their guts for America here.

Obama is a traitor to the nation.

Israel isn't our nation. Why do the wingnuts keep forgetting that?

Israel is a loyal ally, too bad this administration hasn't the same sense of loyalty and commitment.

Do "loyal allies" spy on us? Leak sensitive information on ongoing negotiations?

(smile) Your King has betrayed our allies.

Iran is our Mortal enemy, if you don't know that you are dismissed as a ninny.

Lol...you got a mouse in your pocket?

 

[Antares]

Obama is a traitor to the nation.

Israel isn't our nation. Why do the wingnuts keep forgetting that?

Israel is a loyal ally, too bad this administration hasn't the same sense of loyalty and commitment.

Do "loyal allies" spy on us? Leak sensitive information on ongoing negotiations?

(smile) Your King has betrayed our allies.

Iran is our Mortal enemy, if you don't know that you are dismissed as a ninny.

Lol...you got a mouse in your pocket?

Go get you some 12th Imam kid.

 

[Preacher]

Israel isn't our nation. Why do the wingnuts keep forgetting that?

Israel is a loyal ally, too bad this administration hasn't the same sense of loyalty and commitment.

Do "loyal allies" spy on us? Leak sensitive information on ongoing negotiations?

(smile) Your King has betrayed our allies.

Iran is our Mortal enemy, if you don't know that you are dismissed as a ninny.

Lol...you got a mouse in your pocket?

Go get you some 12th Imam kid.

Lol...angry little insignificant Israel Firster.

 

[LoneLaugher]

I'd like to see BiBi get on a stage and do what Ghani did today. Thank the US taxpayers for our support.

Maybe you missed his congressional speach where he did that. Idiot.

Yes. I did. Please link to the exact quote. Where he thanked the US taxpayers. I'd love to see that

Thanks.

 

[LoneLaugher]

________________________
What is that?

It's the line in the sand.

Please don't confuse me with someone who gives a shit what you anti Semites think, every one of you like your King chooses Radical Islam over a Democratic Ally.

Oh yes. Disagree with Israel and we're all "anti-semites". That card gets old fast.

Obama has betrayed an ally.

Obama is a traitor, I detest him and I detest his followers.

It is what it is.

As a Mod you should be more concerned with LL and his off topic troll.

(shrugs) Oh well.

I'm on topic. You are the topic. Once you go nuts in a thread, you get to be the topic. Haven't you learned anything in all this time?

 

[PaintMyHouse]

"The Times of Israel got it straight from an anonymous “senior Jerusalem official”: Obama wanted “revenge” in the wake of Netanyahu’s speech to Congress."

Good...

 

[Rocko]

I'd like to see BiBi get on a stage and do what Ghani did today. Thank the US taxpayers for our support.

Maybe you missed his congressional speach where he did that. Idiot.

Yes. I did. Please link to the exact quote. Where he thanked the US taxpayers. I'd love to see that

Thanks.

"And Israel is grateful to you, the American Congress, for your support, for supporting us in so many ways, especially in generous military assistance and missile defense, including Iron Dome.

(APPLAUSE)

Last summer, millions of Israelis were protected from thousands of Hamas rockets because this capital dome helped build our Iron Dome.

(APPLAUSE)

Thank you, America. Thank you for everything you've done for Israel."

The complete transcript of Netanyahu s address to Congress - The Washington Post

 

[TemplarKormac]

Here is the difference. Netanyahu disrespected OUR president TK

Who cares? Obama just returns the favor instead of rising above it!

it does NOT matter who occupies that position - it's OUR president. In terms of alliances

Don't lecture me. He is in fact, NOT my president. He has betrayed my trust too many times. He has betrayed and denigrated the very office he holds by the behavior he has engaged in. He has brought low the standards of integrity that office is supposed to represent. No. I respect the office, not the man who holds it.

Israel needs us more than we need them (and no, that is not being anti-semitic, that's reality)

Really? This is reality according to you. You know, I would be looked down upon for simply thinking in such a manner. In fact, the statement "they need us more than we need them" is something I would expect a Don in the Italian Mafia to say.

and disrespecting our president is not exactly the way maintain a relationship that is less necessary for us then for them.

Yanno, you're forgetting the fact that Obama pays in kind. He is not alien to handing out disrespect himself. Oh, poor pity him. I could care less. He deserves every last iota of it.

You guys, on the right, are so full of hatred for Obama

That's the oldest play in the book. I don't hate him, I simply don't respect him. He's a petty liar, plainly put. I don't respect liars. Now, what else are you going to accuse us of? Hating him because he's black? That might have worked 7 years ago, but that's no longer a viable argument. Playing the hate card is patently beneath you, by doing so you would hide your hatred of Israel. Believe me, you've made it very clear in the post I'm quoting at this very minute.

that you let it overrule your respect for the position he occupies

In reality it hasn't. Read my second response. I will respect the position all day long, but the man who holds it? Don't bet on it. My sense of integrity overrules my respect for Obama.

so much so, you will allow, encourage, and excuse foreign leaders who disrespect it (Putin, Netanyahu)

Stop being Pharisaical. Obama brings a lot of ridicule on himself. He has done zero to help his image internationally. He condemns others, yet does things that are worthy of condemnation. Unlike you, or Obama, we think commitment means something. I was raised on keeping promises, even to people I don't like. Its part of being virtuous.

I've never seen this before and Obama is far from the worst President we've had.

So, what exactly has he done to help us? Obama is by far, the most detrimental influence this country has ever known. His election reopened old racial wounds in this country, and now we are reaping the results. He has furthered an already deep divide between Americans. He negotiates with those who wish to destroy both US and Israel. The man has his priorities, none of which include the integrity of the office he holds, or that of America's interests. His priorities include only his ideological interests. He failed, and is now a pitiful, pathetic excuse for a President.

I would mourn should some coward come and take his life. That's not in question. Even I have my limits.

Even Bush was not treated this way and believe me - there was as good a reason to do so in the minds of his detractors as there is for Obama's detractors.

This "oh woe is Obama" argument is getting old. With all due respect to you, and please know I consider you a friend, but you really need to get over it.

Think about it TK.

No.

Israel is a foreign nation - another country with it's OWN interests that may or may not coincide with us. Like any other country.

And this justifies respecting Obama how? It is in both our interests for A) because Israel is our only reliable ally in the Middle East, and B) because without us, Israel would be inevitably destroyed by her enemies.

Obama's relationship with Netanyahu and his revulsion to Israel reminds me of the story of a fox and a scorpion:

A fox was preparing to cross a river when he came across a scorpion at the riverbank. The scorpion asked "take me on your back that I may cross the river also" but the fox said "no, if I do, you'll sting me." The scorpion then pleaded, "Why would I do that? If I did we'd both drown!" So, the fox agreed, and the scorpion climbed atop his back, and they both began to cross the river. When the fox was halfway across the river, the scorpion stung him. As the poison filled his body, the Fox lamented, "why did you do that? Now both of us will drown!" The scorpion replied, "I could not help it, it is my nature."

I'll leave it to your imagination to figure out who the scorpion and the fox are supposed to represent.

What is important to our country first and formost? Our interests? Someone elses?

Our interests, and Israel is one of them. Hate to break it to you.

Israel is NO different than any other ally - or it shouldn't be.

Oh really? Name me one of our own allies who are surrounded on all sides by those who wish to destroy them. Tell me, what good is it to abandon someone who needs you?

 

[georgephillip]

I've made my case, now it's up to the members of this thread to prove me wrong.

Here's why Bibi and Barry are feuding; the (corporate) world is waking to Israel's racist occupation of Palestine.

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