Israeli Holocaust survivors storm Polish embassy in Israel.

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This is ridiculous, now apparently there were Polish Pogroms every pass over, by the Polish church, which aren't recorded by any historian.

As well as Poland's responsible for the Warsaw Ghetto, and deportations.

Well, actually Jews played a bigger role inside the Ghetto than Poles, Jewish Ghetto Police were involved quite heavily with round-ups, and enforcing the Nazi Ghettos, in comparison Polish Blue Police only were involved outside the Nazi Ghettos.

Holocaust survivors storm Polish embassy to protest contentious bill

Holocaust survivors storm Polish embassy to protest contentious bill
Dozens surround diplomat's car, share stories of suffering; woman holds sign saying 'I still have nightmares because of what the Poles did'
By MICHAEL BACHNER8 February 2018, 4:20 pm 26

  • Holocaust survivors and activists take part at a protest at the Polish embassy in Tel Aviv, February 8, 2018. (Tomer Neuberg/Flash90)


    Dozens of Holocaust survivors entered the Polish embassy compound in Tel Aviv on Thursday, waving flags and signs protesting the country’s bill making it a criminal offense to blame the Polish nation or state for the crimes of the Holocaust.

    The demonstrators, who also included younger Israelis, entered the embassy compound. They briefly rallied outside the embassy building, with security guards trying to prevent them from entering, and also surrounded a diplomat’s car.

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    The protesters held up signs in Hebrew and Polish with such slogans as “No law will erase history” and “The Polish law spits in the Israeli people’s face.” One elderly woman held a sign saying “I still have nightmares because of what the Poles did.”

    The protesters shouted “Nobody will forget what you did” at the diplomat inside the car, Ynet reported.

    The rally was organized by the Yad Ezer La-Haver foundation, which runs a home for Holocaust survivors in Haifa. “We are here to voice our protest, and we promise it won’t be quiet,” said the foundation’s CEO Shimon Sabag.

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    Holocaust survivors and activists take part at a protest at the Polish embassy in Tel Aviv, February 8, 2018. (Tomer Neuberg/Flash90)
    The demonstrators plan to erect a protest tent outside the embassy.

    Some Holocaust survivors, many of whom are over the age of 90, used the demonstration to tell chilling stories about Poles mistreating them during World War II.

    “Every Passover there were pogroms against us, so the Poles were anti-Semitic and received orders from the Polish church,” said 80-year-old Shaul Gorka, according to Ynet. “This law is absolutely terrible.”

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    Holocaust survivors and activists take part at a protest at the Polish embassy in Tel Aviv, February 8, 2018. (Tomer Neuberg/Flash90)
    “I only know one family in the whole village who helped me. All the rest didn’t care,” said 80-year-old Esti Lieber.

    Holocaust survivor Shalom Shtamberg, 93, said much of his suffering had been caused by Poles. He said that after the Warsaw Ghetto was opened, “the SS and the Gestapo killed us and took us for hard work,” he said.

    After escaping the ghetto as a 14-year-old and eventually being sent to the Auschwitz death camp, “there were so many Poles there too who beat us and caused us trouble,” Shtamberg added in tears.

    Judith Rosenzweig, 88, said that in the camps, “the Poles around us saw what was happening because we were walking in lines, under rifles belonging to German and Polish soldiers. If one of us would exit the line, they would kill him.”

    “The Poles just stood idly, didn’t do anything, just looked at the lines,” Rosenzweig continued. “We were without clothes on, or in torn clothes in freezing October — and we marched like that and they looked at us. Nobody objected and nobody helped.”

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    Holocaust survivors and activists take part at a protest at the Polish embassy in Tel Aviv, February 8, 2018. (Tomer Neuberg/Flash90)
    The Polish bill, which was signed into law Tuesday by President Andrzej Duda but has yet to receive final approval from the country’s Constitutional Court, has sparked a diplomatic crisis with Israel.

    The legislation, proposed by Poland’s conservative ruling party, has angered Jerusalem, which says it will inhibit free speech about the Holocaust. The United States also strongly opposes the legislation, saying it could hurt Poland’s strategic relations with Israel and the US.

    As currently written, the legislation calls for prison terms of up to three years for attributing the crimes of Nazi Germany to the Polish state or nation. The bill would also set fines or a maximum three-year jail term for anyone who refers to Nazi German death camps as Polish.

    One key paragraph of the bill states, “Whoever claims, publicly and contrary to the facts, that the Polish Nation or the Republic of Poland is responsible or co-responsible for Nazi crimes committed by the Third Reich… or for other felonies that constitute crimes against peace, crimes against humanity or war crimes, or whoever otherwise grossly diminishes the responsibility of the true perpetrators of said crimes – shall be liable to a fine or imprisonment for up to three years.”
 
Feeling a bit guilty about what your grandparents did to my grandparents?

It's hard to muster any sympathy for you.
 
This is ridiculous, now apparently there were Polish Pogroms every pass over, by the Polish church, which aren't recorded by any historian.

As well as Poland's responsible for the Warsaw Ghetto, and deportations.

Well, actually Jews played a bigger role inside the Ghetto than Poles, Jewish Ghetto Police were involved quite heavily with round-ups, and enforcing the Nazi Ghettos, in comparison Polish Blue Police only were involved outside the Nazi Ghettos.

Holocaust survivors storm Polish embassy to protest contentious bill

Holocaust survivors storm Polish embassy to protest contentious bill
Dozens surround diplomat's car, share stories of suffering; woman holds sign saying 'I still have nightmares because of what the Poles did'
By MICHAEL BACHNER8 February 2018, 4:20 pm 26

  • Holocaust survivors and activists take part at a protest at the Polish embassy in Tel Aviv, February 8, 2018. (Tomer Neuberg/Flash90)


    Dozens of Holocaust survivors entered the Polish embassy compound in Tel Aviv on Thursday, waving flags and signs protesting the country’s bill making it a criminal offense to blame the Polish nation or state for the crimes of the Holocaust.

    The demonstrators, who also included younger Israelis, entered the embassy compound. They briefly rallied outside the embassy building, with security guards trying to prevent them from entering, and also surrounded a diplomat’s car.

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    The protesters held up signs in Hebrew and Polish with such slogans as “No law will erase history” and “The Polish law spits in the Israeli people’s face.” One elderly woman held a sign saying “I still have nightmares because of what the Poles did.”

    The protesters shouted “Nobody will forget what you did” at the diplomat inside the car, Ynet reported.

    The rally was organized by the Yad Ezer La-Haver foundation, which runs a home for Holocaust survivors in Haifa. “We are here to voice our protest, and we promise it won’t be quiet,” said the foundation’s CEO Shimon Sabag.

    F180208TNFF13.jpg

    Holocaust survivors and activists take part at a protest at the Polish embassy in Tel Aviv, February 8, 2018. (Tomer Neuberg/Flash90)
    The demonstrators plan to erect a protest tent outside the embassy.

    Some Holocaust survivors, many of whom are over the age of 90, used the demonstration to tell chilling stories about Poles mistreating them during World War II.

    “Every Passover there were pogroms against us, so the Poles were anti-Semitic and received orders from the Polish church,” said 80-year-old Shaul Gorka, according to Ynet. “This law is absolutely terrible.”

    F180208TNFF33-400x250.jpg

    Holocaust survivors and activists take part at a protest at the Polish embassy in Tel Aviv, February 8, 2018. (Tomer Neuberg/Flash90)
    “I only know one family in the whole village who helped me. All the rest didn’t care,” said 80-year-old Esti Lieber.

    Holocaust survivor Shalom Shtamberg, 93, said much of his suffering had been caused by Poles. He said that after the Warsaw Ghetto was opened, “the SS and the Gestapo killed us and took us for hard work,” he said.

    After escaping the ghetto as a 14-year-old and eventually being sent to the Auschwitz death camp, “there were so many Poles there too who beat us and caused us trouble,” Shtamberg added in tears.

    Judith Rosenzweig, 88, said that in the camps, “the Poles around us saw what was happening because we were walking in lines, under rifles belonging to German and Polish soldiers. If one of us would exit the line, they would kill him.”

    “The Poles just stood idly, didn’t do anything, just looked at the lines,” Rosenzweig continued. “We were without clothes on, or in torn clothes in freezing October — and we marched like that and they looked at us. Nobody objected and nobody helped.”

    F180208TNFF35.jpg

    Holocaust survivors and activists take part at a protest at the Polish embassy in Tel Aviv, February 8, 2018. (Tomer Neuberg/Flash90)
    The Polish bill, which was signed into law Tuesday by President Andrzej Duda but has yet to receive final approval from the country’s Constitutional Court, has sparked a diplomatic crisis with Israel.

    The legislation, proposed by Poland’s conservative ruling party, has angered Jerusalem, which says it will inhibit free speech about the Holocaust. The United States also strongly opposes the legislation, saying it could hurt Poland’s strategic relations with Israel and the US.

    As currently written, the legislation calls for prison terms of up to three years for attributing the crimes of Nazi Germany to the Polish state or nation. The bill would also set fines or a maximum three-year jail term for anyone who refers to Nazi German death camps as Polish.

    One key paragraph of the bill states, “Whoever claims, publicly and contrary to the facts, that the Polish Nation or the Republic of Poland is responsible or co-responsible for Nazi crimes committed by the Third Reich… or for other felonies that constitute crimes against peace, crimes against humanity or war crimes, or whoever otherwise grossly diminishes the responsibility of the true perpetrators of said crimes – shall be liable to a fine or imprisonment for up to three years.”

Tell us more about those Kapos. They usually ended up in the gas chambers.
 
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Feeling a bit guilty about what your grandparents did to my grandparents?

It's hard to muster any sympathy for you.

What about Jewish Nazi, and Jewish Soviet collaborators?

I guess you don't feel guilty about those, huh?

This is why so many people of the World despise Jews.

What about them?

Jewish historian Emanuel Ringelblum described Jewish Ghetto Police Nazi collaborators as more brutal than Polish Blue Police Nazi collaborators.

Jewish Emanuel Ringelblum is considered one of the best sources, because he was a historian, who lived his last days in the Nazi German controlled Warsaw Ghetto.
 
Can you blame them?

The Poles helped eradicate the Jews.

And now the xenophobic Law and Justice Party wants to make it illegal for saying this truth.

At least the Germans owned up to what they did.
 
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Can you blame them?

The Poles helped eradicate the Jews.

And now the xenophobic Law and Justice Party wants to make it illegal for saying this truth.

At least the Germans owned up to what they did.

The Jews also helped eradicate the Jews, look at Jewish Nazi collaborators like Judenrat, Jewish Ghetto Police, Group 13, Jewish Kapos, Jewish Sonderkommandos, or how Jewish financiers even helped finance the Nazis in the Haavara Agreement.
 
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xenophobic Law and Justice Party

By "xenophobic" you mean free from the multiracialist mental disease that plagues the United States, according to which a country must destroy one of its fundamental pillars, its racial composition, in order to become more "diverse".

I didn't know people had started calling pure mental sanity "xenophobia".
 
Feeling a bit guilty about what your grandparents did to my grandparents?

It's hard to muster any sympathy for you.

What about Jewish Nazi, and Jewish Soviet collaborators?

I guess you don't feel guilty about those, huh?

This is why so many people of the World despise Jews.

Link? Even if it were the truth, so what? When the History of Slavery is reviewed it’s clear the blacks played a large part in it, but so what? That still doesn’t change the history. Same thing with the Holocaust even IF what you say was true.
This is one reason so many Jews hate Christians
 

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