Israel violates international law

[Victory67]

With mitigating circumstances

Where does the 4th GC say that nations can pick and choose which parts of the treaty they will abide by based on daily circumstances?

 

[Phoenall]

Show me otherwise and I will show you a NAZI

We are fully aware that you and other Israelis believe that anyone who thinks Israel has violated any international laws, is a "Nazi. Its very amusing and is very useful when trying to convince folks not to take Israel's side.

There is nothing more beneficial to a political argument than an opponent who utters the absurd.

Shows how much you know as I am not even a Jew, never mind an Israeli. I was like you at one time and hated the Jews until I saw the aftermath of an Islamic terrorist bomb. From that day on I researched all the evidence and dispelled that which was from hate sites. Your words are exactly what I see on the NAZI hate sites, and I am just waiting for you to take the next step and change Israel and Jew to Zionism and Zionist.

 

[Victory67]

Done and dusted.

Why do you think its fair to respect the rights of Jews listed in the San Remo Conference but ignore the rights of non-Jews in same?

 

[Sweet_Caroline]

And I wouldn't expect anything else coming out of a racist like you.

I have never been racist in my life. You however show your antisemitic tendencies.

Of course you are a racist, you are supporting the dispossession of land and the ethnic cleansing of Christians and Muslims just because they are not Jewish, that is racist as hell.

The land was given to the Jews in biblical history and the San Remo Mandate. Don't blame me.

 

[Victory67]

Shows how much you know as I am not even a Jew, never mind an Israeli. I was like you at one time and hated the Jews until I saw the aftermath of an Islamic terrorist bomb. From that day on I researched all the evidence and dispelled that which was from hate sites. Your words are exactly what I see on the NAZI hate sites, and I am just waiting for you to take the next step and change Israel and Jew to Zionism and Zionist.

I do not hate Jews. It is very sad that rather than discussing the issue all you can do is falsely accuse people of hating Jews. This is partially why people around the world don't support Israel.

Please return to talking about the international laws that Israel ignores.

 

[Victory67]

The land was given to the Jews in biblical history and the San Remo Mandate. Don't blame me.

The Bible is 3,000 year old fantasy and has no relevence in a discussion about international laws.

There is no San Remo "mandate". It was merely a conference with resolutions.

Your acknowledging of the rights of Jews listed at San Remo but your ignoring of the rights of non-Jews listed at San Remo, renders your argument pretty dead.

 

[Sweet_Caroline]

Done and dusted.

Why do you think its fair to respect the rights of Jews listed in the San Remo Conference but ignore the rights of non-Jews in same?

Non Jews have rights in Israel. They work together, ride public transport together, shop together, are treated in clinics and wards together. There are Muslim and Christians in the Israeli military, there are Muslims in the Law Courts, Muslim and Christian members of the Knesset, surgeons in hospitals, need I go on?

 

[Victory67]

Non Jews have rights in Israel. They work together, ride public transport together, shop together, are treated in clinics and wards together. There are Muslim and Christians in the Israeli military, there are Muslims in the Law Courts, Muslim and Christian members of the Knesset, surgeons in hospitals, need I go on?

Israel has consistently and routinely been violating the civil rights of non-Jews in the West Bank since 1967.

This violates the protections set forth in the San Remo Conference.

 

[Phoenall]

Again you confuse the Mandate for Palestine with the San Remo Mandate. Are you a child? Do you not understand they are two different things entirely.

The San Remo Conference and the Mandate for Palestine both include the following:

The High Contracting Parties agree to entrust, by application of the provisions of Article 22, the administration of Palestine, within such boundaries as may be determined by the Principal Allied Powers, to a Mandatory, to be selected by the said Powers. The Mandatory will be responsible for putting into effect the declaration originally made on November 8, 1917, by the British Government, and adopted by the other Allied Powers, in favour of the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country.

Which was breached by the combined arab armies when they invaded Israel. They evicted the Jews from the rest of the M.E and started to murder them as they fled to Israel. The Jews begged the non Jewish communities to stay and be part of Israel, but they refused and turned against the Jews.

 

[Sweet_Caroline]

The land was given to the Jews in biblical history and the San Remo Mandate. Don't blame me.

The Bible is 3,000 year old fantasy and has no relevence in a discussion about international laws.

There is no San Remo "mandate". It was merely a conference with resolutions.

Your acknowledging of the rights of Jews listed at San Remo but your ignoring of the rights of non-Jews listed at San Remo, renders your argument pretty dead.

Now I am sure you are a child. A San Remo Mandate = a conference with legally binding and signed by the parties concerned resolutions.

 

[Phoenall]

Nothing negates the San Remo Mandate to give the land of Palestine to the Jews. The countries that signed at the League of Nations in 1922 have an OBLIGATION to encourage Jewish settlement in the land of Palestine, later of course to be known as the land of Israel.

So you agree that Israel is bound by the San Remo Conference, which makes Jewish settlement in Palestine and the creation of a Jewish homeland conditional upon the full respect and protection of non-Jewish civil rights in Palestine?

By the way, there is no San Remo "mandate". It is merely a set of resolutions.

The governing mandate is the Mandate for Palestine.

Those conditions also hinge on the non Jews agreeing to the same thing in regard to the Jews. Now who was it breached these resolutions in 1948 when they invaded Israel ?

 

[Sweet_Caroline]

Non Jews have rights in Israel. They work together, ride public transport together, shop together, are treated in clinics and wards together. There are Muslim and Christians in the Israeli military, there are Muslims in the Law Courts, Muslim and Christian members of the Knesset, surgeons in hospitals, need I go on?

Israel has consistently and routinely been violating the civil rights of non-Jews in the West Bank since 1967.

This violates the protections set forth in the San Remo Conference.

The West Bank belonged to the Jews according to the San Remo Conference. All roads lead back to then, ok?

 

[Phoenall]

Just as you think that the Sam remo is valid for Israel when it was not yet reborn. Or that the Geneva conventions apply to Palestine when they have never signed them.

Please take this up with Sweet Caroline as she is the one saying San Remo is still in affect.

[MENTION=35705]Phoenall[/MENTION]

I am taking it up with you after your false claim.

 

[Victory67]

The West Bank belonged to the Jews according to the San Remo Conference. All roads lead back to then, ok?

The San Remo Conference never says that all of Palestine will become the Jewish homeland.

But the San Remo Conference does clearly demand full protection for non-Jewish rights in Palestine. Not only do you ignore these rights but you actually refuse to even acknowledge such language exists.

 

[Indeependent]

Show me otherwise and I will show you a NAZI

We are fully aware that you and other Israelis believe that anyone who thinks Israel has violated any international laws, is a "Nazi. Its very amusing and is very useful when trying to convince folks not to take Israel's side.

There is nothing more beneficial to a political argument than an opponent who utters the absurd.

Shows how much you know as I am not even a Jew, never mind an Israeli. I was like you at one time and hated the Jews until I saw the aftermath of an Islamic terrorist bomb. From that day on I researched all the evidence and dispelled that which was from hate sites. Your words are exactly what I see on the NAZI hate sites, and I am just waiting for you to take the next step and change Israel and Jew to Zionism and Zionist.

You're not Jewish?
Nobody's perfect.
Except William Shatner.

 

[Indeependent]

Nothing negates the San Remo Mandate to give the land of Palestine to the Jews. The countries that signed at the League of Nations in 1922 have an OBLIGATION to encourage Jewish settlement in the land of Palestine, later of course to be known as the land of Israel.

So you agree that Israel is bound by the San Remo Conference, which makes Jewish settlement in Palestine and the creation of a Jewish homeland conditional upon the full respect and protection of non-Jewish civil rights in Palestine?

By the way, there is no San Remo "mandate". It is merely a set of resolutions.

The governing mandate is the Mandate for Palestine.

Those conditions also hinge on the non Jews agreeing to the same thing in regard to the Jews. Now who was it breached these resolutions in 1948 when they invaded Israel ?

Ancient history!

By the way, who gets to define "ancient history"?

 

[Phoenall]

Of course it is. Jews' rights are protected. Countries cannot sign a country over to a people and then divide it up again if it has been ratified by the League of Nations and protected by the United Nations.

So the rights of Jews are protected but the rights of non-Jews are voided?

That's very interesting. I wonder how this view affects public opinion about Israel.

Depends on which side of the fence you are on. Don't you try and void the Jews rights when you make false claims . All parties rights should be protected, but while the muslims have it as a religious command to KILL THE JEWS then the Jews will defend themselves.

 

[Phoenall]

Your compatriot [MENTION=44172]Sweet_Caroline[/MENTION] believes that the San Remo Conference is still valid.

I urge you two and others Israelis to come to some agreement on this matter cause its very hard to debate this issue when your side can't agree on such an important element.

No law has negated the San Remo Mandate. It is written in Law and cannot be changed. I would urge people to watch this.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_WVm8SacS4]Howard Grief - Israels Legal Borders Under International Law - Part 1 of 3 - YouTube[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VV_HMfzVDc]Howard Grief - Israels Legal Borders Under International Law - Part 2 of 3 - YouTube[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWJb8qY5KZ8]Howard Grief - Israels Legal Borders Under International Law - Part 3 of 3 - YouTube[/ame]

Total bullshit.

because it destroys your POV ?

 

[Victory67]

Why should the world respect the rights of Jews to settle all of Palestine set forth in San Remo, when the Israelis ignore the rights of non-Jews in Palestine set forth in San Remo?

They cannot have their cake and eat it too. Either all rights are too be respected or none will be respected.

 

[Indeependent]

Why should the world respect the rights of Jews to settle all of Palestine set forth in San Remo, when the Israelis ignore the rights of non-Jews in Palestine set forth in San Remo?

They cannot have their cake and eat it too. Either all rights are too be respected or none will be respected.

Fine...nobody's rights are respected.