Israel/Saudi Relations Growing

[thetor]

The Tamimi tribe are in Saudi,Jordan,Yemen,Quatar,UAE,Egypt,etc.,very few decendents in Palestine(Palestinians) so your point was????????..As for the Jaabri,are some comic book tribe,as I said you are probably a nice guy but totally misguided...really you must do better,your post was Churlish and incorrect to say the least.No snow here by the way...Flakie

PS at the 2007 Israel Census...there were 138 Kurds living in the whole of Israel...but I'll let that pass with no further critique

Sure snowflake... Kurds of Palestine hoping to connect with home


"The Ayyubi families of Palestine have relations in the Kurdistan Region.
We would like to be connected with other Kurds from Kurdistan.
Their numbers have increased to 70,000 families in Khalil (Hebron) city"

Arabs from Gaza don't marry Arabs from Hebron or Ramallah....and You're talking about "can't divide Palestinians"

So why does a rulling Qatari tribe represent Palestinians?

Check Official Israeli Government figures,you will see my figures on the Kurds as correct but nice to see you acknowledge Palestine...which is more than be said for many of your ignorant cohorts...tor

^^^^^
Yet another smelly sock.

You got yourself in one,well done,now sock it

So who's smelly sock are you? Afraid to post under your real name due to too many humiliations? Ha ha ha.

LOL so Mr Roudy don't sound too Jewish to me or is it short for Roudystein...Mr Roudy why are you such a hypocrite liar?????for you surely are both but then you cannot help yourself can you.

 

[Challenger]

Bahrain...the HQ of the US 5th Fleet, does what it's told to do and buys $billions of arms...oh, and

"Since June 2016, Bahrain has rapidly deteriorated into a full-blown human rights crisis. The authorities have dramatically stepped up their clampdown on freedom of expression. They have subjected over 160 peaceful critics to arrest, prosecution and imprisonment, as well as other forms of harassments. Those particularly targeted have been human rights defenders and political activists, as well as lawyers, journalists and Shi’a clerics. Credible reports indicate that security forces have subjected several of them to torture or other ill-treatment in custody. The authorities have also targeted Bahraini activists residing outside Bahrain, subjecting their families to interrogation and prosecution in reprisal for their relatives’ human rights activities or participation in protests abroad." Document

Yup, Zionist Israel is in good company.

The US has bases all around the world, including Kuwait, Qatar, Bahrain, Afghanistan and Turkey.
So does it mean that the US is dictating Erdogan what to say about Israel?

Israel is certainly NOT in a good company, but the neighborhood is what it is.
Why should Israel isolate itself from the more pragmatic countries in the region?

I think you mean Dogmatic for Pragmatic actually...try to keep up to speed

No I said it correctly-
this is exactly why Israel can deal with Muslim, Christian and Hindu countries - pragmatism.

Yeah like Israel only Despotic Repulsive Scuzzballs

What an angry snowflake, I'm sure You think this is the vocabulary at hand.

Saudi Arabia–United States relations - Wikipedia

There were times when Iranian and Israeli commanders were actually sitting together:

Mota Gur (Israeli Chief of Stuff) meets the Iranian General in Tehran (1970').

Why should Israel not cooperate with the more pragmatic players in the ME?

Brutal oppressive regimes always gravitate towards each other, it seems...

 

[rylah]

The US has bases all around the world, including Kuwait, Qatar, Bahrain, Afghanistan and Turkey.
So does it mean that the US is dictating Erdogan what to say about Israel?

Israel is certainly NOT in a good company, but the neighborhood is what it is.
Why should Israel isolate itself from the more pragmatic countries in the region?

I think you mean Dogmatic for Pragmatic actually...try to keep up to speed

No I said it correctly-
this is exactly why Israel can deal with Muslim, Christian and Hindu countries - pragmatism.

Yeah like Israel only Despotic Repulsive Scuzzballs

What an angry snowflake, I'm sure You think this is the vocabulary at hand.

Saudi Arabia–United States relations - Wikipedia

There were times when Iranian and Israeli commanders were actually sitting together:

Mota Gur (Israeli Chief of Stuff) meets the Iranian General in Tehran (1970').

Why should Israel not cooperate with the more pragmatic players in the ME?

Brutal oppressive regimes always gravitate towards each other, it seems...

This was a shallow irrational response, made to demonize and deflect from any serious discussion, about such complicated issue as foreign relations, more so in the middle east.

Now lets examine Your comment further, and compare it to facts.
Saudi Arabia has official diplomatic and/or economic relations with countries such as:
Bangladesh,China,India, Japan, Philippines, Mexico, Austria, Denmark, Finland, France , Germany, Norway, UK, Canada, United States etc.
But unlike those countries, Israel DOES NOT have official relations with Saudi Arabia.

Q. So in which one of the Western countries above do You live?

 

[thetor]

I think you mean Dogmatic for Pragmatic actually...try to keep up to speed

No I said it correctly-
this is exactly why Israel can deal with Muslim, Christian and Hindu countries - pragmatism.

Yeah like Israel only Despotic Repulsive Scuzzballs

What an angry snowflake, I'm sure You think this is the vocabulary at hand.

Saudi Arabia–United States relations - Wikipedia

There were times when Iranian and Israeli commanders were actually sitting together:

Mota Gur (Israeli Chief of Stuff) meets the Iranian General in Tehran (1970').

Why should Israel not cooperate with the more pragmatic players in the ME?

Brutal oppressive regimes always gravitate towards each other, it seems...

This was a shallow irrational response, made to demonize and deflect from any serious discussion, about such complicated issue as foreign relations, more so in the middle east.

Now lets examine Your comment further, and compare it to facts.
Saudi Arabia has official diplomatic and/or economic relations with countries such as:
Bangladesh,China,India, Japan, Philippines, Mexico, Austria, Denmark, Finland, France , Germany, Norway, UK, Canada, United States etc.
But unlike those countries, Israel DOES NOT have official relations with Saudi Arabia.

Q. So in which one of the Western countries above do You live?

Interesting the countries you mention Rylah,as most of them you mentioned ALL SUPPLY ARMS AND WEAPONRY to those Despots in Saudi Arabia....Now go figure why they have relations with Saudi????????????????answer MONEY yeah how shallow indeed,yet they prop up this medieval,repressive resgime

 

[rylah]

No I said it correctly-
this is exactly why Israel can deal with Muslim, Christian and Hindu countries - pragmatism.

Yeah like Israel only Despotic Repulsive Scuzzballs

What an angry snowflake, I'm sure You think this is the vocabulary at hand.

Saudi Arabia–United States relations - Wikipedia

There were times when Iranian and Israeli commanders were actually sitting together:

Mota Gur (Israeli Chief of Stuff) meets the Iranian General in Tehran (1970').

Why should Israel not cooperate with the more pragmatic players in the ME?

Brutal oppressive regimes always gravitate towards each other, it seems...

This was a shallow irrational response, made to demonize and deflect from any serious discussion, about such complicated issue as foreign relations, more so in the middle east.

Now lets examine Your comment further, and compare it to facts.
Saudi Arabia has official diplomatic and/or economic relations with countries such as:
Bangladesh,China,India, Japan, Philippines, Mexico, Austria, Denmark, Finland, France , Germany, Norway, UK, Canada, United States etc.
But unlike those countries, Israel DOES NOT have official relations with Saudi Arabia.

Q. So in which one of the Western countries above do You live?

Interesting the countries you mention Rylah,as most of them you mentioned ALL SUPPLY ARMS AND WEAPONRY to those Despots in Saudi Arabia....Now go figure why they have relations with Saudi????????????????answer MONEY yeah how shallow indeed,yet they prop up this medieval,repressive resgime

Your responses are infantile and shallow. Relations between nations are way more complicated than Utopian slogans, no matter how many capital letters You use.
Facts please.

When You talk about arms sales and military cooperation, Iran immediately jumps out.
A weapon of each specific manufacturer, bears a symbolic ideological message to the world - optics. Everyone knows what's the message/side of those with AK-47 vs those with M16.
Arms reflect the side one chooses to cooperate with.

On the other side diplomatic and economic relations are one way of motivating the less developed countries towards prosperity, and cooperation on a global plane.
When an Arab Muslim country turns towards Israel, it's a big step towards the West.
At the least it's a clear sign of will and transformation - moving towards a new direction vs Arab mainstream. Also it's pragmatism in the face of Iran.

 

[Challenger]

This was a shallow irrational response, made to demonize and deflect from any serious discussion, about such complicated issue as foreign relations, more so in the middle east.

Hardly, it was a succinct and accurate statement. Foreign relations in the Middle East, like anywhere else are quite straighforward. Faux "complexity" is a trope put out by Zionists to deflect from any serious discussion on their activities.

 

[rylah]

Foreign relations in the Middle East, like anywhere else are quite straighforward.

Are out of Your mind??

The West has open straighforward relations with Saudi Arabia, different case with Israel.
My guess is You live in one of those Western countries, like UK, US, Canada and Germany that have open official relations with Saudi Arabia, unlike Israel.
Foreign relations of Saudi Arabia - Wikipedia

So why the double standard for Jews?

 

[MJB12741]

The US has bases all around the world, including Kuwait, Qatar, Bahrain, Afghanistan and Turkey.
So does it mean that the US is dictating Erdogan what to say about Israel?

Israel is certainly NOT in a good company, but the neighborhood is what it is.
Why should Israel isolate itself from the more pragmatic countries in the region?

I think you mean Dogmatic for Pragmatic actually...try to keep up to speed

No I said it correctly-
this is exactly why Israel can deal with Muslim, Christian and Hindu countries - pragmatism.

Yeah like Israel only Despotic Repulsive Scuzzballs

What an angry snowflake, I'm sure You think this is the vocabulary at hand.

Saudi Arabia–United States relations - Wikipedia

There were times when Iranian and Israeli commanders were actually sitting together:

Mota Gur (Israeli Chief of Stuff) meets the Iranian General in Tehran (1970').

Why should Israel not cooperate with the more pragmatic players in the ME?

Brutal oppressive regimes always gravitate towards each other, it seems...

OUTSTANDING POINT! Hamas, Al Quida, Hezbollah, Isis etc. All enemies of peace.

 

[thetor]

Yeah like Israel only Despotic Repulsive Scuzzballs

What an angry snowflake, I'm sure You think this is the vocabulary at hand.

Saudi Arabia–United States relations - Wikipedia

There were times when Iranian and Israeli commanders were actually sitting together:

Mota Gur (Israeli Chief of Stuff) meets the Iranian General in Tehran (1970').

Why should Israel not cooperate with the more pragmatic players in the ME?

Brutal oppressive regimes always gravitate towards each other, it seems...

This was a shallow irrational response, made to demonize and deflect from any serious discussion, about such complicated issue as foreign relations, more so in the middle east.

Now lets examine Your comment further, and compare it to facts.
Saudi Arabia has official diplomatic and/or economic relations with countries such as:
Bangladesh,China,India, Japan, Philippines, Mexico, Austria, Denmark, Finland, France , Germany, Norway, UK, Canada, United States etc.
But unlike those countries, Israel DOES NOT have official relations with Saudi Arabia.

Q. So in which one of the Western countries above do You live?

Interesting the countries you mention Rylah,as most of them you mentioned ALL SUPPLY ARMS AND WEAPONRY to those Despots in Saudi Arabia....Now go figure why they have relations with Saudi????????????????answer MONEY yeah how shallow indeed,yet they prop up this medieval,repressive resgime

Your responses are infantile and shallow. Relations between nations are way more complicated than Utopian slogans, no matter how many capital letters You use.
Facts please.

When You talk about arms sales and military cooperation, Iran immediately jumps out.
A weapon of each specific manufacturer, bears a symbolic ideological message to the world - optics. Everyone knows what's the message/side of those with AK-47 vs those with M16.
Arms reflect the side one chooses to cooperate with.

On the other side diplomatic and economic relations are one way of motivating the less developed countries towards prosperity, and cooperation on a global plane.
When an Arab Muslim country turns towards Israel, it's a big step towards the West.
At the least it's a clear sign of will and transformation - moving towards a new direction vs Arab mainstream. Also it's pragmatism in the face of Iran.

Saudi are as Bad as Iran

 

[rylah]

Saudi are as Bad as Iran

What an outstanding analysis of the situation, send it to Your congressmen.

So who should Israel cooperate in face of the Iranian threat instead, Gays for Hamas?

 

[MJB12741]

Thank you Iran for strong USA/Saudi relations.

 

[abi]

& now Saudi Arabia ties with Israel are growing

That didn't last long.

"Irresponsible, Unwarranted": Saudis Condemn Trump's Jerusalem Recognition, Warn Of "Serious Consequences"

And it is not just the Muslim world that Trump has pissed off:

As expected Trump has already received an immense amount of international push back from world leaders, including major US allies. Among the countries and international bodies which immediately condemned the move are the UK, France, Germany, Canada, Russia, China, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE, Egypt, Jordan, as well as the European Union, Arab League, and others.
"Irresponsible, Unwarranted": Saudis Condemn Trump's Jerusalem Recognition, Warn Of "Serious Consequences"

 

[Roudy]

& now Saudi Arabia ties with Israel are growing

That didn't last long.

"Irresponsible, Unwarranted": Saudis Condemn Trump's Jerusalem Recognition, Warn Of "Serious Consequences"

And it is not just the Muslim world that Trump has pissed off:

As expected Trump has already received an immense amount of international push back from world leaders, including major US allies. Among the countries and international bodies which immediately condemned the move are the UK, France, Germany, Canada, Russia, China, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE, Egypt, Jordan, as well as the European Union, Arab League, and others.
"Irresponsible, Unwarranted": Saudis Condemn Trump's Jerusalem Recognition, Warn Of "Serious Consequences"

Abdul, didnt they teach you not to count your baby camels until they are born?

Arabs / Muslim leaders are famous for their lip service and bluster. You of all people should know that.

Besides, Saudi Arabia has a new progressive, anti Islamist King now. Your jihad days are over.

 

[theliq]

& now Saudi Arabia ties with Israel are growing

That didn't last long.

"Irresponsible, Unwarranted": Saudis Condemn Trump's Jerusalem Recognition, Warn Of "Serious Consequences"

And it is not just the Muslim world that Trump has pissed off:

As expected Trump has already received an immense amount of international push back from world leaders, including major US allies. Among the countries and international bodies which immediately condemned the move are the UK, France, Germany, Canada, Russia, China, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE, Egypt, Jordan, as well as the European Union, Arab League, and others.
"Irresponsible, Unwarranted": Saudis Condemn Trump's Jerusalem Recognition, Warn Of "Serious Consequences"

Abdul, didnt they teach you not to count your baby camels until they are born?

Arabs / Muslim leaders are famous for their lip service and bluster. You of all people should know that.

Besides, Saudi Arabia has a new progressive, anti Islamist King now. Your jihad days are over.

So Saudi Arabia..that repressive Dictatorship thinks or not that Israel that repressive Terrorist Zionist enclave with the USA its 2nd State think things are OK,I always said like begets like...Come on Rouds,you example is a poor one indeed....Viva Palestine

How you put Saudi Arabia and PROGRESSIVE in the same sentence is an Oxymoron,Roudy

 

[theliq]

& now Saudi Arabia ties with Israel are growing

That didn't last long.

"Irresponsible, Unwarranted": Saudis Condemn Trump's Jerusalem Recognition, Warn Of "Serious Consequences"

And it is not just the Muslim world that Trump has pissed off:

As expected Trump has already received an immense amount of international push back from world leaders, including major US allies. Among the countries and international bodies which immediately condemned the move are the UK, France, Germany, Canada, Russia, China, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE, Egypt, Jordan, as well as the European Union, Arab League, and others.
"Irresponsible, Unwarranted": Saudis Condemn Trump's Jerusalem Recognition, Warn Of "Serious Consequences"

And Australia and New Zealand Abi

 

[Roudy]

& now Saudi Arabia ties with Israel are growing

That didn't last long.

"Irresponsible, Unwarranted": Saudis Condemn Trump's Jerusalem Recognition, Warn Of "Serious Consequences"

And it is not just the Muslim world that Trump has pissed off:

As expected Trump has already received an immense amount of international push back from world leaders, including major US allies. Among the countries and international bodies which immediately condemned the move are the UK, France, Germany, Canada, Russia, China, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE, Egypt, Jordan, as well as the European Union, Arab League, and others.
"Irresponsible, Unwarranted": Saudis Condemn Trump's Jerusalem Recognition, Warn Of "Serious Consequences"

Abdul, didnt they teach you not to count your baby camels until they are born?

Arabs / Muslim leaders are famous for their lip service and bluster. You of all people should know that.

Besides, Saudi Arabia has a new progressive, anti Islamist King now. Your jihad days are over.

So Saudi Arabia..that repressive Dictatorship thinks or not that Israel that repressive Terrorist Zionist enclave with the USA its 2nd State think things are OK,I always said like begets like...Come on Rouds,you example is a poor one indeed....Viva Palestine

How you put Saudi Arabia and PROGRESSIVE in the same sentence is an Oxymoron

Ok kangaroo brain get back to me when you've figured out that Arab Muslims are now behind the scenes working closely with Israel.

 

[theliq]

& now Saudi Arabia ties with Israel are growing

That didn't last long.

"Irresponsible, Unwarranted": Saudis Condemn Trump's Jerusalem Recognition, Warn Of "Serious Consequences"

And it is not just the Muslim world that Trump has pissed off:

As expected Trump has already received an immense amount of international push back from world leaders, including major US allies. Among the countries and international bodies which immediately condemned the move are the UK, France, Germany, Canada, Russia, China, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE, Egypt, Jordan, as well as the European Union, Arab League, and others.
"Irresponsible, Unwarranted": Saudis Condemn Trump's Jerusalem Recognition, Warn Of "Serious Consequences"

Abdul, didnt they teach you not to count your baby camels until they are born?

Arabs / Muslim leaders are famous for their lip service and bluster. You of all people should know that.

Besides, Saudi Arabia has a new progressive, anti Islamist King now. Your jihad days are over.

So Saudi Arabia..that repressive Dictatorship thinks or not that Israel that repressive Terrorist Zionist enclave with the USA its 2nd State think things are OK,I always said like begets like...Come on Rouds,you example is a poor one indeed....Viva Palestine

How you put Saudi Arabia and PROGRESSIVE in the same sentence is an Oxymoron

Ok kangaroo brain get back to me when you've figured out that Arab Muslims are now behind the scenes working closely with Israel.

I know it's past your Bedtime Roudy but did you know the original Jews were part Arab? I thought not,mind you any Arab could become a Jew?!!DID YOU KNOW THAT,thought not.........Anytime you need help about you Ancestory...call me...Sweet Dreams Rouds,Mummy will tuck you in.......soon

 

[Sixties Fan]

& now Saudi Arabia ties with Israel are growing

That didn't last long.

"Irresponsible, Unwarranted": Saudis Condemn Trump's Jerusalem Recognition, Warn Of "Serious Consequences"

And it is not just the Muslim world that Trump has pissed off:

As expected Trump has already received an immense amount of international push back from world leaders, including major US allies. Among the countries and international bodies which immediately condemned the move are the UK, France, Germany, Canada, Russia, China, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE, Egypt, Jordan, as well as the European Union, Arab League, and others.
"Irresponsible, Unwarranted": Saudis Condemn Trump's Jerusalem Recognition, Warn Of "Serious Consequences"

Abdul, didnt they teach you not to count your baby camels until they are born?

Arabs / Muslim leaders are famous for their lip service and bluster. You of all people should know that.

Besides, Saudi Arabia has a new progressive, anti Islamist King now. Your jihad days are over.

So Saudi Arabia..that repressive Dictatorship thinks or not that Israel that repressive Terrorist Zionist enclave with the USA its 2nd State think things are OK,I always said like begets like...Come on Rouds,you example is a poor one indeed....Viva Palestine

How you put Saudi Arabia and PROGRESSIVE in the same sentence is an Oxymoron

Ok kangaroo brain get back to me when you've figured out that Arab Muslims are now behind the scenes working closely with Israel.

I know it's past your Bedtime Roudy but did you know the original Jews were part Arab? I thought not,mind you any Arab could become a Jew?!!DID YOU KNOW THAT,thought not.........Anytime you need help about you Ancestory...call me...Sweet Dreams Rouds,Mummy will tuck you in.......soon

Where did you get the idea that the original Jews were part Arabs?
The Quran?
1001 Arabian Nights?

Yes, Any Arab can convert to Judaism.
Now show us a huge number of Arabs who have converted to Judaism for the past 1400 years.
That is supposed to mean what, even if it were true?

 

[theliq]

That didn't last long.

"Irresponsible, Unwarranted": Saudis Condemn Trump's Jerusalem Recognition, Warn Of "Serious Consequences"

And it is not just the Muslim world that Trump has pissed off:

As expected Trump has already received an immense amount of international push back from world leaders, including major US allies. Among the countries and international bodies which immediately condemned the move are the UK, France, Germany, Canada, Russia, China, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE, Egypt, Jordan, as well as the European Union, Arab League, and others.
"Irresponsible, Unwarranted": Saudis Condemn Trump's Jerusalem Recognition, Warn Of "Serious Consequences"

Abdul, didnt they teach you not to count your baby camels until they are born?

Arabs / Muslim leaders are famous for their lip service and bluster. You of all people should know that.

Besides, Saudi Arabia has a new progressive, anti Islamist King now. Your jihad days are over.

So Saudi Arabia..that repressive Dictatorship thinks or not that Israel that repressive Terrorist Zionist enclave with the USA its 2nd State think things are OK,I always said like begets like...Come on Rouds,you example is a poor one indeed....Viva Palestine

How you put Saudi Arabia and PROGRESSIVE in the same sentence is an Oxymoron

Ok kangaroo brain get back to me when you've figured out that Arab Muslims are now behind the scenes working closely with Israel.

I know it's past your Bedtime Roudy but did you know the original Jews were part Arab? I thought not,mind you any Arab could become a Jew?!!DID YOU KNOW THAT,thought not.........Anytime you need help about you Ancestory...call me...Sweet Dreams Rouds,Mummy will tuck you in.......soon

Where did you get the idea that the original Jews were part Arabs?
The Quran?
1001 Arabian Nights?

Yes, Any Arab can convert to Judaism.
Now show us a huge number of Arabs who have converted to Judaism for the past 1400 years.
That is supposed to mean what, even if it were true?

For you 60's>>>>>http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2000/10/jews-and-arabs-share-recent-ancestry

As check out en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_studies_on_Jews


60's as you and many know me to be an authority on all thing Jewish and Palestinian,and am only too happy to help you in the future....steven,Trust the Family are WELL

My hope for the New Year is that I hope you positively improve your relationship with your cousins the Palestinians.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Abdul, didnt they teach you not to count your baby camels until they are born?

Arabs / Muslim leaders are famous for their lip service and bluster. You of all people should know that.

Besides, Saudi Arabia has a new progressive, anti Islamist King now. Your jihad days are over.

So Saudi Arabia..that repressive Dictatorship thinks or not that Israel that repressive Terrorist Zionist enclave with the USA its 2nd State think things are OK,I always said like begets like...Come on Rouds,you example is a poor one indeed....Viva Palestine

How you put Saudi Arabia and PROGRESSIVE in the same sentence is an Oxymoron

Ok kangaroo brain get back to me when you've figured out that Arab Muslims are now behind the scenes working closely with Israel.

I know it's past your Bedtime Roudy but did you know the original Jews were part Arab? I thought not,mind you any Arab could become a Jew?!!DID YOU KNOW THAT,thought not.........Anytime you need help about you Ancestory...call me...Sweet Dreams Rouds,Mummy will tuck you in.......soon

Where did you get the idea that the original Jews were part Arabs?
The Quran?
1001 Arabian Nights?

Yes, Any Arab can convert to Judaism.
Now show us a huge number of Arabs who have converted to Judaism for the past 1400 years.
That is supposed to mean what, even if it were true?

For you 60's>>>>>http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2000/10/jews-and-arabs-share-recent-ancestry

As check out en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_studies_on_Jews


60's as you and many know me to be an authority on all thing Jewish and Palestinian,and am only too happy to help you in the future....steven,Trust the Family are WELL

My hope for the New Year is that I hope you positively improve your relationship with your cousins the Palestinians.

Abraham was not an Arab. The Hebrews came into Ur from another place. They spoke Hebrew. That is why they were known as the Hebrews.

Your genetic studies are bunk. You are an authority in BS, even if you believe in it.

In other words, the Arabs were never cousins to the Hebrews/Israelites.
Ishmael's mother was an Egyptian, as in the Copts. He married an Egyptian as well, possibly from the same tribe as his mother's.

Israel's relationship with the Arabs who call themselves since 1964, Palestinians, is just fine. At least with those who do not listen to the Jihadist leaders who follow Mohammad's ideology of conquest and murder.

My hope for future generations of Arabs, is that real moderate leaders take over and go against the Jihadist ideology against Jews which has been prevalent for 1400 years.
Then, they will want to teach their children peace, and make peace with Israel.
They have much to gain by it, as Egypt, Jordan and Saudi Arabia are discovering.