Is Trump really going to reduce income tax to 0%

[HappyJoy]

The minute you want to reduce any income tax for the poor the left goes crazy. How much do they want to help poor people in this country?

The poor don't pay income tax. $50k, while certainly not a lot is enough to pay taxes, if that is for a single individual with no dependents.

Are you saying poor people just stopped filing last year?

Did I say that?

 

[Deleted member 53821]

Whatever it was it was too much. Just saying...

How do you know?

I never met anyone who said that they either paid just enough or not enough in taxes. Their is only one choice which is not enough.

Do you want to reword that?

It should be easy to comprehend for most people of average or below average intelligence.

OK, you think people have not paid enough in taxes.

No I think most people think they pay to much in taxes because no one ever says they paid not enough or the just right amount. It is almost always too much.

 

[HappyJoy]

How do you know?

How do you not know? Oh, wait, nevermind.

OK, you tell us, how much did Trump pay in taxes last year?

I'm going to guess and say 1 million dollars?

Based on what? And why does anyone care about your guesses?

I don't know so I guessed. It is kind of like how no one knows where Obama was born so they guess.

No, we all know, we have evidence, some would call it a fact that he was born in Hawaii, actually most do.

 

[Deleted member 53821]

The minute you want to reduce any income tax for the poor the left goes crazy. How much do they want to help poor people in this country?

The poor don't pay income tax. $50k, while certainly not a lot is enough to pay taxes, if that is for a single individual with no dependents.

Are you saying poor people just stopped filing last year?

Did I say that?

You just said they don't pay any. If that is the case then why do they even bother filing a return or why is their pay check have FICA deduction?

 

[HappyJoy]

How do you know?

I never met anyone who said that they either paid just enough or not enough in taxes. Their is only one choice which is not enough.

Do you want to reword that?

It should be easy to comprehend for most people of average or below average intelligence.

OK, you think people have not paid enough in taxes.

No I think most people think they pay to much in taxes because no one ever says they paid not enough or the just right amount. It is almost always too much.

Yeah, you should have reworded your post.

Anyway, taxes are for grown ups to understand. Nobody wants to pay them, most know why they are necessary.

 

[Deleted member 53821]

I never met anyone who said that they either paid just enough or not enough in taxes. Their is only one choice which is not enough.

Do you want to reword that?

It should be easy to comprehend for most people of average or below average intelligence.

OK, you think people have not paid enough in taxes.

No I think most people think they pay to much in taxes because no one ever says they paid not enough or the just right amount. It is almost always too much.

Yeah, you should have reworded your post.

Anyway, taxes are for grown ups to understand. Nobody wants to pay them, most know why they are necessary.

I just stated this thread as a question as in is it true. So far I haven't seen any evidence to the contrary that his tax plan says anything different.

 

[HappyJoy]

The minute you want to reduce any income tax for the poor the left goes crazy. How much do they want to help poor people in this country?

The poor don't pay income tax. $50k, while certainly not a lot is enough to pay taxes, if that is for a single individual with no dependents.

Are you saying poor people just stopped filing last year?

Did I say that?

You just said they don't pay any. If that is the case then why do they even bother filing a return or why is their pay check have FICA deduction?

I'm strictly referring to federal income tax, not FICA or medicare. Anyway, you have to file to demonstrate all your income and that determines whether you pay taxes or not.

 

[Deleted member 53821]

How do you not know? Oh, wait, nevermind.

OK, you tell us, how much did Trump pay in taxes last year?

I'm going to guess and say 1 million dollars?

Based on what? And why does anyone care about your guesses?

I don't know so I guessed. It is kind of like how no one knows where Obama was born so they guess.

No, we all know, we have evidence, some would call it a fact that he was born in Hawaii, actually most do.

Fine. He was born in Hawaii and I mean with all my heart and not one single thought in my mind ever says otherwise. This is why I can't start a sentence out with "I suppose he was born in America" or "for the sake of argument..." or "Lets not argue about petty stuff so I will concede just to end the argument". I"m not allowed to say anything like that becuase the left has to make sure every word, thought, and deed agrees with them. I don't want to call this a chapter in "Brave New World" but it definately seems like that sometimes. Of couse, that is just me being paranoid about the issue...

 

[HappyJoy]

Do you want to reword that?

It should be easy to comprehend for most people of average or below average intelligence.

OK, you think people have not paid enough in taxes.

No I think most people think they pay to much in taxes because no one ever says they paid not enough or the just right amount. It is almost always too much.

Yeah, you should have reworded your post.

Anyway, taxes are for grown ups to understand. Nobody wants to pay them, most know why they are necessary.

I just stated this thread as a question as in is it true. So far I haven't seen any evidence to the contrary that his tax plan says anything different.

Do you think you have any obligation as a US citizen to pay for the multiple congressional Benghazi investigations?

 

[Deleted member 53821]

The minute you want to reduce any income tax for the poor the left goes crazy. How much do they want to help poor people in this country?

The poor don't pay income tax. $50k, while certainly not a lot is enough to pay taxes, if that is for a single individual with no dependents.

Are you saying poor people just stopped filing last year?

Did I say that?

You just said they don't pay any. If that is the case then why do they even bother filing a return or why is their pay check have FICA deduction?

I'm strictly referring to federal income tax, not FICA or medicare. Anyway, you have to file to demonstrate all your income and that determines whether you pay taxes or not.

And the amount owed was equal to zero dollars for every person who makes below 50K or 25K?

 

[Deleted member 53821]

It should be easy to comprehend for most people of average or below average intelligence.

OK, you think people have not paid enough in taxes.

No I think most people think they pay to much in taxes because no one ever says they paid not enough or the just right amount. It is almost always too much.

Yeah, you should have reworded your post.

Anyway, taxes are for grown ups to understand. Nobody wants to pay them, most know why they are necessary.

I just stated this thread as a question as in is it true. So far I haven't seen any evidence to the contrary that his tax plan says anything different.

Do you think you have any obligation as a US citizen to pay for the multiple congressional Benghazi investigations?

As if the income tax is the only way we can fund the government?

 

[HappyJoy]

OK, you tell us, how much did Trump pay in taxes last year?

I'm going to guess and say 1 million dollars?

Based on what? And why does anyone care about your guesses?

I don't know so I guessed. It is kind of like how no one knows where Obama was born so they guess.

No, we all know, we have evidence, some would call it a fact that he was born in Hawaii, actually most do.

Fine. He was born in Hawaii and I mean with all my heart and not one single thought in my mind ever says otherwise. This is why I can't start a sentence out with "I suppose he was born in America" or "for the sake of argument..." or "Lets not argue about petty stuff so I will concede just to end the argument". I"m not allowed to say anything like that becuase the left has to make sure every word, thought, and deed agrees with them. I don't want to call this a chapter in "Brave New World" but it definately seems like that sometimes. Of couse, that is just me being paranoid about the issue...

So, when I said we don't know what Trump paid in taxes you replied with we don't know where Obama was born...or something to that extent, I'm paraphrasing.

Either you agree with fact or you don't, but only your argument suffers for it.

 

[HappyJoy]

The poor don't pay income tax. $50k, while certainly not a lot is enough to pay taxes, if that is for a single individual with no dependents.

Are you saying poor people just stopped filing last year?

Did I say that?

You just said they don't pay any. If that is the case then why do they even bother filing a return or why is their pay check have FICA deduction?

I'm strictly referring to federal income tax, not FICA or medicare. Anyway, you have to file to demonstrate all your income and that determines whether you pay taxes or not.

And the amount owed was equal to zero dollars for every person who makes below 50K or 25K?

For Trump's plan? It appears to be $25k for the individual or $50k per couple.

 

[Deleted member 53821]

I'm going to guess and say 1 million dollars?

Based on what? And why does anyone care about your guesses?

I don't know so I guessed. It is kind of like how no one knows where Obama was born so they guess.

No, we all know, we have evidence, some would call it a fact that he was born in Hawaii, actually most do.

Fine. He was born in Hawaii and I mean with all my heart and not one single thought in my mind ever says otherwise. This is why I can't start a sentence out with "I suppose he was born in America" or "for the sake of argument..." or "Lets not argue about petty stuff so I will concede just to end the argument". I"m not allowed to say anything like that becuase the left has to make sure every word, thought, and deed agrees with them. I don't want to call this a chapter in "Brave New World" but it definately seems like that sometimes. Of couse, that is just me being paranoid about the issue...

So, when I said we don't know what Trump paid in taxes you replied with we don't know where Obama was born...or something to that extent, I'm paraphrasing.

Either you agree with fact or you don't, but only your argument suffers for it.

I didn't say 'we'. I said 'I'. I'm sure someone knows what he paid in taxes last year. The person who knows happens to not be me.

 

[Harry Dresden]

I sure as **** hope not. Say good bye to being apart of the first world and say hello to being friends with Haiti as taht is what this nation will look like within a decade or two.

40% of all r&d funding goodbye
Half of all infrastructure funding good bye
Most lab and instutional science, good bye

We can and will join the third world if we're dumb enough to do what the op wants.

no one wants to live in the 16th century matt....calm down....

 

[HappyJoy]

Based on what? And why does anyone care about your guesses?

I don't know so I guessed. It is kind of like how no one knows where Obama was born so they guess.

No, we all know, we have evidence, some would call it a fact that he was born in Hawaii, actually most do.

Fine. He was born in Hawaii and I mean with all my heart and not one single thought in my mind ever says otherwise. This is why I can't start a sentence out with "I suppose he was born in America" or "for the sake of argument..." or "Lets not argue about petty stuff so I will concede just to end the argument". I"m not allowed to say anything like that becuase the left has to make sure every word, thought, and deed agrees with them. I don't want to call this a chapter in "Brave New World" but it definately seems like that sometimes. Of couse, that is just me being paranoid about the issue...

So, when I said we don't know what Trump paid in taxes you replied with we don't know where Obama was born...or something to that extent, I'm paraphrasing.

Either you agree with fact or you don't, but only your argument suffers for it.

I didn't say 'we'. I said 'I'. I'm sure someone knows what he paid in taxes last year. The person who knows happens to not be me.

Thanks for the clarification?

 

[Harry Dresden]

I never met anyone who said that they either paid just enough or not enough in taxes. Their is only one choice which is not enough.

Do you want to reword that?

It should be easy to comprehend for most people of average or below average intelligence.

OK, you think people have not paid enough in taxes.

No I think most people think they pay to much in taxes because no one ever says they paid not enough or the just right amount. It is almost always too much.

Yeah, you should have reworded your post.

Anyway, taxes are for grown ups to understand. Nobody wants to pay them, most know why they are necessary.

and everyone wants to get away with paying as least amount as they can...

 

[Deleted member 53821]

I'm going to guess and say 1 million dollars?

Based on what? And why does anyone care about your guesses?

I don't know so I guessed. It is kind of like how no one knows where Obama was born so they guess.

No, we all know, we have evidence, some would call it a fact that he was born in Hawaii, actually most do.

Fine. He was born in Hawaii and I mean with all my heart and not one single thought in my mind ever says otherwise. This is why I can't start a sentence out with "I suppose he was born in America" or "for the sake of argument..." or "Lets not argue about petty stuff so I will concede just to end the argument". I"m not allowed to say anything like that becuase the left has to make sure every word, thought, and deed agrees with them. I don't want to call this a chapter in "Brave New World" but it definately seems like that sometimes. Of couse, that is just me being paranoid about the issue...

So, when I said we don't know what Trump paid in taxes you replied with we don't know where Obama was born...or something to that extent, I'm paraphrasing.

Either you agree with fact or you don't, but only your argument suffers for it.

A lot of people really don't believe that Obama was born in the US but the issue is mute at this point and they don't want to get into a heated argument about it so they say "I suppose..." or some other sentence just so people don't get into a heated debate about the origins of OBama. THe left doesn't seem happy about that. I don't know why because it really doesn't matter if this man is an American or not at this point because his presidency is almost over with. It is just pointless considering their are a ton of other issues that should take up the bandwidth of political discussion but since the left seems to be pretty totalitarian in its approach on how to deal with dissent on this issue it is determined to squash out any and all dissenting opinions on this issue.

 

[HappyJoy]

Based on what? And why does anyone care about your guesses?

I don't know so I guessed. It is kind of like how no one knows where Obama was born so they guess.

No, we all know, we have evidence, some would call it a fact that he was born in Hawaii, actually most do.

Fine. He was born in Hawaii and I mean with all my heart and not one single thought in my mind ever says otherwise. This is why I can't start a sentence out with "I suppose he was born in America" or "for the sake of argument..." or "Lets not argue about petty stuff so I will concede just to end the argument". I"m not allowed to say anything like that becuase the left has to make sure every word, thought, and deed agrees with them. I don't want to call this a chapter in "Brave New World" but it definately seems like that sometimes. Of couse, that is just me being paranoid about the issue...

So, when I said we don't know what Trump paid in taxes you replied with we don't know where Obama was born...or something to that extent, I'm paraphrasing.

Either you agree with fact or you don't, but only your argument suffers for it.

A lot of people really don't believe that Obama was born in the US but the issue is mute at this point and they don't want to get into a heated argument about it so they say "I suppose..." or some other sentence just so people don't get into a heated debate about the origins of OBama. THe left doesn't seem happy about that. I don't know why because it really doesn't matter if this man is an American or not at this point because his presidency is almost over with. It is just pointless considering their are a ton of other issues that should take up the bandwidth of political discussion but since the left seems to be pretty totalitarian in its approach on how to deal with dissent on this issue it is determined to squash out any and all dissenting opinions on this issue.

I'm not the one who brought it up, you did. And you brought up Obama's citizenship status by comparing that 'unknown' (notice the quotes, they denote sarcasm) to something we truly don't know, what Trump paid in taxes.

Now you're getting bent out of shape because I'm calling you on your bullshit, either you care about facts or you don't. And I don't care what a lot of wingnuts say, they are either morons, liars or lying morons.

 

[HappyJoy]

Do you want to reword that?

It should be easy to comprehend for most people of average or below average intelligence.

OK, you think people have not paid enough in taxes.

No I think most people think they pay to much in taxes because no one ever says they paid not enough or the just right amount. It is almost always too much.

Yeah, you should have reworded your post.

Anyway, taxes are for grown ups to understand. Nobody wants to pay them, most know why they are necessary.

and everyone wants to get away with paying as least amount as they can...

And most everyone wants Trump to pay taxes...a lot in taxes.