A Gathering Consensus

[pknopp]

So somebody explain to me why it is newsworthy that a majority of Americans want exactly what the President has said he wants, to wit, a negotiated agreement with Iran?

We had that.

Indeed, he has shown remarkable constraint - constraint that goes so far as to erode the President's popularity among MAGA Republicans - before embarking on further "kinetic actions" against the regime.

Again, a majority of Americans what the same thing that the President wants. Why is that "news"?

The news is the wasted billions and loss of standing to get what we already had.

 

[berg80]

So somebody explain to me why it is newsworthy that a majority of Americans want exactly what the President has said he wants, to wit, a negotiated agreement with Iran?

But does he? If so, why is he trying to find new ways not to make an agreement?

The U.S. will attempt to redirect Iranian assets to Gulf states for rebuilding and repairs of damage caused by Iran, a source familiar with the matter said, as Tehran followed up a wave of strikes against Kuwait and Bahrain with further drone launches.

Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent has directed a team to assess costs for damage inflicted on Gulf allies by Iran, the source said on Saturday, adding the U.S. will consider using Iranian assets for repairs of any future destruction as well.

The disclosure came a day after Mohsen Rezaei, an adviser to Iran’s supreme leader, told CNN that a peace deal to end the three-month-old war hinged on the release of $24 billion in Iranian assets frozen by the United States.

U.S. eyes Iranian assets for Gulf allies' reconstruction, source says

U.S. Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent has also directed a team to assess the costs of damage already inflicted on Gulf allies by Iran, Reuters reported.

www.cnbc.com

 

[Nostra]

Overwhelming Expert Consensus Favors Agreement with Iran​

For example, a bipartisan group of more than 50 former national security and military leaders signed a letter in April applauding the negotiators and urging Congress to refrain from impeding ongoing talks. Although withholding judgment until the final deal is reached, these policy heavyweights found that “the framework represents important progress toward our goal of blocking an Iranian nuclear weapon.”

They warned further that “undermining the negotiations or blocking the chances of reaching a Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action” could have grave consequences. Among these are “creating the perception that the U.S. is responsible for the collapse of the agreement; unraveling international cooperation on sanctions; and triggering the unfreezing of Iran’s nuclear program the rapid ramping of Iranian nuclear capacity.” This, they said, “could enhance the possibility of war.”

Signers included former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright; former National Security Advisors Samuel Berger, Zbigniew Brzezinski, and Brent Scowcroft; retired Generals Anthony Zinni and Frank Kearney; retired Admirals William Fallon, Eric Olsen, and Joe Sestak; former Ambassadors Thomas Pickering, Nicolas Burns, Chester Crocker, James Dobbins, Michael Armacost, Daniel Kurtzer, and Frank Wisner; and issue experts such as George Perkovich, Graham Allison, Robert Einhorn, Michèle Flournoy, and Gary Sick, among others.

Reflecting this consensus view, both Brzezinski and Scowcroft warned Congress earlier this year in a hearing before the Senate Armed Services Committee to “not take steps which would destroy the negotiations.“

Overwhelming Expert Consensus Favors Agreement with Iran – LobeLog

Inside the Obama-era Iran nuclear deal that Trump withdrew from

The U.S. and Iran have yet to reach a peace deal or address Iran's nuclear ambitions, despite signals from Trump that talks are progressing.

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Experts in the field of nuclear proliferation with no political axe to grind have consistently supported the JCPOA's achievement. Some even presciently warned blocking finalization of the agreement could lead to war. Blocking it didn't but withdrawing from it did. With 2 1/2 years to go the only remaining question being will the withdrawal, or something else, be the biggest foreign policy blunder of trump's presidencies?

11 year old link?
Having to go to the Way Back Machine to get butthurt, huh?

 

[22lcidw]

Rats abandoning a sinking ship.....

I prefer a breakup of the nation for the good of all our futures. Only a rise up of Deplorables can stop this. An example would be if armed men showed up in enough numbers to kill the insurrectionists outside the illegal alien detention center in New Jersey. An easy thing to type. A legitimate and honorable thing to do.

 

[kyzr]

Iran was nowhere close to a nuclear bomb, experts say​

Iran was nowhere close to a nuclear bomb, experts say
Second, let's be clear about what we're discussing. Has Iran been working on developing a nuclear weapon since trump withdrew the US from the JCPOA? Yes.

Actually false. Iran has been working on nuclear weapons...according to Copilot...
"Iran’s first steps toward nuclear weapons–related work began in the mid‑1980s, when the post‑revolution government secretly revived elements of the Shah’s earlier nuclear ambitions and began activities with potential military dimensions

Were they capable of developing a nuclear bomb under the conditions of the JCPOA? No.

Iran cheated on the JCPOA, that aside, the JCPOA was only a 10-year delay to Iran legally having nuclear weapons.

Is the Iran regime a destabilizing force in the region? Yes. Did attacking Iran (along with Israel) help that situation? No. If anything it made it worse.

Its only been 100-days, patience little grasshopper...

 

[kyzr]

Trump told us over and over he destroyed all of that.

Operation Midnight Hammer destroyred the centrifuges and buried the "nuclear dust" under a mountain, but Iran is trying to dig it out.

 

[pknopp]

Actually false. Iran has been working on nuclear weapons...according to Copilot...
"Iran’s first steps toward nuclear weapons–related work began in the mid‑1980s, when the post‑revolution government secretly revived elements of the Shah’s earlier nuclear ambitions and began activities with potential military dimensions

Iran cheated on the JCPOA, that aside, the JCPOA was only a 10-year delay to Iran legally having nuclear weapons.

Its only been 100-days, patience little grasshopper...

Trump: Two to three weeks.

 

[kyzr]

Sandifer said that satellite images in January “showed repair activity at two of the Iranian nuclear sites bombed in June of 2025, the Natanz and Isfahan facilities. However, there is a lack of evidence that Iran had taken steps toward rebuilding its nuclear program beyond these repairs. Some experts believe that this activity was not a sign of reconstruction but an assessment of the damage to key assets.”

Iran is digging out their enriched uranium.

Other experts similarly have said there’s not evidence of Iran restarting a nuclear enrichment program. “There’s a general conclusion today that there’s a de facto suspension of enrichment,” Robert Einhorn, a senior fellow in the arms control and non-proliferation initiative at the Brookings Institution think tank and a former State Department official during the Obama administration, told the Wall Street Journal. “There’s no enrichment taking place.”

If Iran can dig out their 60 kg of 60% enriched uranium they have more than enough for bombs.