Is it right to blame JD Vance for Orban's loss?

[frigidweirdo]

Tisza party is a center-right party.
Fidesz is a nationalist party, further to right.

It won't happen. It goes down in one country, doesn't mean it'll go down in another.

WW2 fought right wing extremism, it still reappeared pretty quickly.

 

[egp320i]

"FACT"... did you provide evidence?

I mean, I literally spoke about how African countries have higher fertility rates. Now you're trying to tell me something I already told you. Hmmm....

You basically said black people are Muslims.

You did not say "some black people are Muslims" and most of the countries in Africa are not.

Niger, with the largest fertility rate, is, in fact, Muslim. And Somalia in second is also Muslim

But CAR is not, the DRC is not, Angola is not...

Let's try out my reading comprehension skills compared to your writing skills, shall we?

"
Black people love to populate, when you have 5 wives, well that's going to happen
They are also muslim.......you see a common thread here?"

"Black people love to populate"

Not really. When black people go to rich countries and are rich in those countries, they tend to not "populate" as you called it.

There are exceptions, perhaps. Nigerian culture is one where having kids is seen as a status symbol. But as I showed you, foreign born people have more kids, but those born into western countries tend not to. Birth rates for black people who were born in rich western countries are LOW.

Sometimes you will have CULTURAL reasons to have more kids, like Nigeria, but for the most part it's about POVERTY.

Niger has 62.11 per 1,000 live births infant mortality. The US has 6.5, the UK 4.5.

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And here's a map of infant mortality. Which is probably pretty similar to fertility rates. Because if your kid is 10 times more likely to die before the age of 5, you're more likely to have kids. If needed people to look after you when you're old, you're more likely to have more kids.

This is not "black people like to populate", it's often a NECESSITY.

"They are Muslim"

All black people are Muslims are they?

******* hell, you need to learn how to make an argument without saying stupid shit.

wow way to nitpick over something nobody cares about but you apparently

you care how many kids are born in Africa why exactly?

sending money to feed the poor through the NGO that is actually stealing your money?

yep, most likely

Africa, it's like orgy time all the time with no protection.....well duh they have lots of kids

Clearly they don't need to repopulate but they are trying regardless

 

[frigidweirdo]

wow way to nitpick over something nobody cares about but you apparently

you care how many kids are born in Africa why exactly?

sending money to feed the poor through the NGO that is actually stealing your money?

yep, most likely

Africa, it's like orgy time all the time with no protection.....well duh they have lots of kids

Clearly they don't need to repopulate but they are trying regardless

Fun that you managed to not reply to the whole bit about where you wrote a total load of krap. I guess you're trying to now ignore the fact that you said all black people are Muslim.

Perhaps try looking up facts before you claim things. It might help you to stop writing krap.

 

[egp320i]

Fun that you managed to not reply to the whole bit about where you wrote a total load of krap. I guess you're trying to now ignore the fact that you said all black people are Muslim.

Perhaps try looking up facts before you claim things. It might help you to stop writing krap.

aww, no crap there buddy just a basic understanding of the fact the fact they have lots of kids in Africa

You showed the graph, what is your problem? going to retract your own post as not accurate now

I am not giving you a belly rub over semantics here

Africa......**** plenty, have kids, northern have is muslim

looks straightforward to me.......nothing false about it

I bet you got burned by sending money to feed the kids yet they starve, poor you

You sucked the grift

I don't give a dime to anybody as I have no real clue where that money is going

but we feed the children.........no you feed your wallet

 

[frigidweirdo]

aww, no crap there buddy just a basic understanding of the fact the fact they have lots of kids in Africa

You showed the graph, what is your problem? going to retract your own post as not accurate now

I am not giving you a belly rub over semantics here

Africa......**** plenty, have kids, northern have is muslim

looks straightforward to me.......nothing false about it

I bet you got burned by sending money to feed the kids yet they starve, poor you

You sucked the grift

******* hell.....

I can't discuss things on this level, it's way, way to ******* stupid for me.

Any more and I'd probably try and kill myself, just having to think about such stupidity before I have to go out now, and see a ton of stupid ******* people doing stupid shit.

Have fun wallowing in whatever dirt you're doing it in.

 

[egp320i]

******* hell.....

I can't discuss things on this level, it's way, way to ******* stupid for me.

Any more and I'd probably try and kill myself, just having to think about such stupidity before I have to go out now, and see a ton of stupid ******* people doing stupid shit.

Have fun wallowing in whatever dirt you're doing it in.

haha, no dirt no wallowing

It's simple, Africa has a high birth rate, many are muslims

Even a 6th grader can figure that out, you can't and get all pissy?

What is the glorious point you were trying to make from the start?

 

[22lcidw]

It won't happen. It goes down in one country, doesn't mean it'll go down in another.

WW2 fought right wing extremism, it still reappeared pretty quickly.

WW 2 fought people not living well.

 

[frigidweirdo]

haha, no dirt no wallowing

It's simple, Africa has a high birth rate, many are muslims

Even a 6th grader can figure that out, you can't and get all pissy?

What is the glorious point you were trying to make from the start?

You think this is 6th grader logic?

I was thinking more kinderfuckinggarten logic.

 

[egp320i]

You think this is 6th grader logic?

I was thinking more kinderfuckinggarten logic.

whatever floats your boat but I doubt a 7 year old understand birth rates around the world
They don't know sex or anything

This actually makes you look like a total tool

Thanks for looking rather incompetent though

cold weirdo, way to set the bar high........an observation

 

[Pastelli]

47 ...Dictator.

You mean 47 years of Islamic Regime dictatorship?

 

[frigidweirdo]

whatever floats your boat but I doubt a 7 year old understand birth rates around the world
They don't know sex or anything

This actually makes you look like a total tool

Thanks for looking rather incompetent though

cold weirdo, way to set the bar high........an observation

**** off.

 

[egp320i]

**** off.

When somebody resorts to that it means they lost the argument, sad way to throw in the towel sport!

 

[frigidweirdo]

When somebody resorts to that it means they lost the argument, sad way to throw in the towel sport!

You're ******* hilarious.

Yes, I "lost the argument" when I go out there, write long posts, use facts, use sources.

Then some ******* idiot comes along and uses NOTHING. You always just make stupid ******* claims that would embarrass a child. And you want me to take you seriously?

I don't. And I'm putting you on ignore because I don't want to have child like conversations.

I'm here to have adult conversations.

I "lost the argument" when you start saying things like "all black people are Muslims". What do you want? You think you can say anything you like without any reality, and expect people to continue to converse with you?

**** off.

Bye bye. Last post, you're going on ignore because you really are pissing me off.

 

[egp320i]

You're ******* hilarious.

Yes, I "lost the argument" when I go out there, write long posts, use facts, use sources.

Then some ******* idiot comes along and uses NOTHING. You always just make stupid ******* claims that would embarrass a child. And you want me to take you seriously?

I don't. And I'm putting you on ignore because I don't want to have child like conversations.

I'm here to have adult conversations.

I "lost the argument" when you start saying things like "all black people are Muslims". What do you want? You think you can say anything you like without any reality, and expect people to continue to converse with you?

**** off.

Bye bye. Last post, you're going on ignore because you really are pissing me off.

do quote where I said all black people are muslims.........nope

South USA they are baptist, many parts of Africa they are Christian

They are also hunted down by muslims and exterminated

just because you take the time and effort to write fluff does make it a Pulitzer prize novel

maybe in your mind, not to anybody else, it's breaking wind

 

[shockedcanadian]

Vance went there a day or two before the election? That isn't going to change anyones minds. He was always going to lose I presume, the European media have been saying this for months, he was in power 16 years, it had nothing to do with external influences.

 

[forkup]

Well, first I'd say there are different types of intelligence. A person can be intelligent in one area, and completely stupid in another area.

The problem with your argument is that I also lacked the ability to question things. But I kept looking, kept researching, kept talking to people and learned how to learn for myself.

But I changed and I was able to think for myself. A lot of people don't bother, they prefer the package that tells them how to think.

It's convenient, it's comfortable.

It's stupid.

The act might be stupid, doesn't mean they are.

My problem
is that presuming people are not just wrong but stupid is part of what got the US into this mess.

By framing it that way, you give credence to the accusation of being elitist. Something that gives rise to a feeling of resentment. A resentment that makes people less likely to listen let alone agree with you.

It's good that you talk to people. I'd argue that the next step is to try to understand them too. Not agree, but at least attempt to understand.