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JRK you've provided the same links in every thread and they get debunked in every thread.
You can win a game of repeating yourself the most, doesn't mean you're right or what you post is accurate.
If you want proof of your debunked links, scroll through your very own threads.
JRK you've provided the same links in every thread and they get debunked in every thread.
You can win a game of repeating yourself the most, doesn't mean you're right or what you post is accurate.
If you want proof of your debunked links, scroll through your very own threads.
It is staring you right in the face,
DEBUNK IT
DEBUNK WHAT BLIX SAID 1-27-03
DEBUNK CONGRESS VOTE 10-2002
DEBUNK THERE IS NOT A REPUBLIC IN PLACE IN IRAQ
DE BUNK WE ARE LEAVING THANKS TO THE TROOPS AND GWB/IRAQ AGREEMENT 2008
ITS ALL I HAVE EVER SAID
GO FOR IT
JRK you've provided the same links in every thread and they get debunked in every thread.
You can win a game of repeating yourself the most, doesn't mean you're right or what you post is accurate.
If you want proof of your debunked links, scroll through your very own threads.
It is staring you right in the face,
DEBUNK IT
DEBUNK WHAT BLIX SAID 1-27-03
DEBUNK CONGRESS VOTE 10-2002
DEBUNK THERE IS NOT A REPUBLIC IN PLACE IN IRAQ
DE BUNK WE ARE LEAVING THANKS TO THE TROOPS AND GWB/IRAQ AGREEMENT 2008
ITS ALL I HAVE EVER SAID
GO FOR IT
Couldn't care less what blix or congress said in 2002-2003, I never agree with either of those entities.
There is a republic in place, and majority rule can be an ugly thing for minorities. Just look at christians in Iraq that you always conveniently ignore, they're going extinct.
We are leaving thanks to that agreement. Great, hooray, that doesn't do a bit of good to the hundred thousand dead people the war created, some our soldiers, many innocent women children and babies.
I'm not getting into another discussion where you tell me how awesome the War in Iraq was, the only reason you think that is because your hero was president at the time. The warmongering in Libya is the same as the warmongering in Iraq, just a smaller scale, but of course you disagree with Libya cuz a democrat is in office.
Blind partisans, who parrot what their parties say, you for example, get boring really fast.
You people who claim we lost the war in Iraq as we leave there and they are doing fine with a republic in place better think twice or at best look who is standing around you when you claim we lost that war just because GWB was the president and it was his war
I am not kidding. I know some gung ho marines who do not feel that way and I am clueless as to why any of you would feel that way
ARE U NUTS?
You people who claim we lost the war in Iraq as we leave there and they are doing fine with a republic in place better think twice or at best look who is standing around you when you claim we lost that war just because GWB was the president and it was his war
I am not kidding. I know some gung ho marines who do not feel that way and I am clueless as to why any of you would feel that way
ARE U NUTS?
You are kidding yourself.
Most of the detractors are claiming it is a loss because it is President Obama who is ordering them to pull out.
But here is where the rubber meets the road so to speak. Without US forces to secure the peace, how long will it be before the militant factions start warring in ernest, if ever. Frankly I hope I'm wrong and all goes well over there without US Troops.
It is staring you right in the face,
DEBUNK IT
DEBUNK WHAT BLIX SAID 1-27-03
DEBUNK CONGRESS VOTE 10-2002
DEBUNK THERE IS NOT A REPUBLIC IN PLACE IN IRAQ
DE BUNK WE ARE LEAVING THANKS TO THE TROOPS AND GWB/IRAQ AGREEMENT 2008
ITS ALL I HAVE EVER SAID
GO FOR IT
Couldn't care less what blix or congress said in 2002-2003, I never agree with either of those entities.
There is a republic in place, and majority rule can be an ugly thing for minorities. Just look at christians in Iraq that you always conveniently ignore, they're going extinct.
We are leaving thanks to that agreement. Great, hooray, that doesn't do a bit of good to the hundred thousand dead people the war created, some our soldiers, many innocent women children and babies.
I'm not getting into another discussion where you tell me how awesome the War in Iraq was, the only reason you think that is because your hero was president at the time. The warmongering in Libya is the same as the warmongering in Iraq, just a smaller scale, but of course you disagree with Libya cuz a democrat is in office.
Blind partisans, who parrot what their parties say, you for example, get boring really fast.
After all this time you finally did the right thing, I could care less if you agree with me. That is your place in life not mine
as far as Egypt and Qaddafi (Libya) goes, can you tell me why we did what we did there? Can you explain to me why Obama thought it would be better to ignore us? ignore congress?
GWB spent 18 months dotting every I and crossing every T prior to invading Iraq. BHO just does as he pleases
I have never seen anything so up-side down in my life as this mess is
and one other thing, we would have been out of there years ago if not for the real enemy, Al Qaeda
and last but not least, your death toll and who is resp. is in correct
Democrats (and republicans) authorized the president to use combat troops in Iraq to enforce about a hundred UN sanctions and then democrats either sat back and pretended to be bystanders or purposely undermined the Military effort. The NY Times had a full page ($10,000 a pop) ad calling the US commander "betray-us". Does anyone think republicans paid for the ad? The senate majority leader tried to influence the morale of the Troops and the American public when he said "the war is lost" just as the Troop Surge was underway. Democrats snickered as crazy Sheehan anti-war demonstratios disrupted Military funerals or camped outside Bush's home at Crawford Texas and displayed filthy insulting signs while they pissed in the road. Where are they today?
Couldn't care less what blix or congress said in 2002-2003, I never agree with either of those entities.
There is a republic in place, and majority rule can be an ugly thing for minorities. Just look at christians in Iraq that you always conveniently ignore, they're going extinct.
We are leaving thanks to that agreement. Great, hooray, that doesn't do a bit of good to the hundred thousand dead people the war created, some our soldiers, many innocent women children and babies.
I'm not getting into another discussion where you tell me how awesome the War in Iraq was, the only reason you think that is because your hero was president at the time. The warmongering in Libya is the same as the warmongering in Iraq, just a smaller scale, but of course you disagree with Libya cuz a democrat is in office.
Blind partisans, who parrot what their parties say, you for example, get boring really fast.
After all this time you finally did the right thing, I could care less if you agree with me. That is your place in life not mine
as far as Egypt and Qaddafi (Libya) goes, can you tell me why we did what we did there? Can you explain to me why Obama thought it would be better to ignore us? ignore congress?
GWB spent 18 months dotting every I and crossing every T prior to invading Iraq. BHO just does as he pleases
I have never seen anything so up-side down in my life as this mess is
and one other thing, we would have been out of there years ago if not for the real enemy, Al Qaeda
and last but not least, your death toll and who is resp. is in correct
Our entire foreign policy is about $ and treasure (usually oil). It's not a coincidence that Iraq and Libya are oil rich. And it's not a coincidence that we're always talking tough with Syria and Iran, who are also oil rich. Look at all the leaders of countries who kill their own people that we ignore.
Both Bush and Obama have attacked Somalia without declaring war or anything, so don't give me the bs about one of them giving a damn about what's illegal and what's not. If we want to bomb a country, we'll do it, irregardless of law and Constitution and irregardless fo what trash party is in power.
A friend of hezbollah runs Iraq, so I don't believe your terrorism excuse. Besides Saudi Arabia are our dear friends and that's where most terrorists come from, there or Egypt another ally of ours.
Whether the death toll is 1,000, 10,000, 100,000 or 100,000,000 the war would've still been wrong and not worth it. The soldiers should still be alive, if it weren't for our scum government (both parties) flushing their lives down the toilet.
Democrats (and republicans) authorized the president to use combat troops in Iraq to enforce about a hundred UN sanctions and then democrats either sat back and pretended to be bystanders or purposely undermined the Military effort. The NY Times had a full page ($10,000 a pop) ad calling the US commander "betray-us". Does anyone think republicans paid for the ad? The senate majority leader tried to influence the morale of the Troops and the American public when he said "the war is lost" just as the Troop Surge was underway. Democrats snickered as crazy Sheehan anti-war demonstratios disrupted Military funerals or camped outside Bush's home at Crawford Texas and displayed filthy insulting signs while they pissed in the road. Where are they today?
Twisted History.
Let me take one example.
"Madam President, the White House has been telling America that Democrats are doing the wrong thing by calling for a change of course in Iraq. They say holding the Iraqi Government accountable is wrong. They say finding a political solution Iraq is wrong. They say redeploying troops out of a civil war is wrong. They have said even debating a strategy for changing course is dangerous, and many Senate Republicans have backed that up by blocking several of our attempts to debate this issue here on the Senate Floor.....
Conditions in Iraq get worse by the day. Now we find ourselves policing another nation's civil war. We are less secure from the many threats to our national security than we were when the war began. As long as we follow the President's path in Iraq, the war is lost. But there is still a chance to change course and we must change course."
All that and the public is left with "The War is Lost"
American Sheeples.
And it was before the so called surge
This is nothing but unsupportable, bigoted drivel.
It was warranted as Saddam had been given 12 years to provide proof that he had done away with the following
UN information
UNMOVIC, however, has information that conflicts with this account. There are indications that Iraq had worked on the problem of purity and stabilization, and that more had been achieved than has been declared. Indeed, even one of the documents provided by Iraq indicates that the purity of the agent, at least in laboratory production, was higher than declared.
There are also indications that the agent was weaponized. In addition, there are questions to be answered concerning the fate of the VX precursor chemicals, which Iraq states were lost due to bombing in the Gulf War or were unilaterally destroyed by Iraq.
Chemical bombs were being dropped after the Gulf War!
The document indicates that 13,000 chemical bombs were dropped by the Iraqi Air Force between 1983 and 1998, while Iraq has declared that 19,500 bombs were consumed during this period. Thus, there is a discrepancy of 6,500 bombs. The amount of chemical agent in these bombs would be in the order of about 1,000 tons. In the absence of evidence to the contrary, we must assume that these quantities are now unaccounted for.
Rocket delivery systems for WMD were being worked on after the Gulf war even very recently.
The discovery of a number of 122 mm chemical rocked warheads in a bunker at the storage depot 170 kilometers southwest of Baghdad was much-publicized. This was a relatively new bunker, and therefore the rockets must have been moved here in the past two years, at a time when Iraq should not have had such munitions. Investigation of these rockets is still proceeding. Iraq states that they were overlooked from 1991 from a batch of some 2,000 that were stored there during the Gulf War. This could be the case. They could also be the tip of a submerged iceberg. The discovery of a few rockets does not resolve, but rather points to the issue of several thousand of chemical rockets that are unaccounted for.
What about Bio- WMDs?
I turn to biological weapons. I mentioned the issue of anthrax to the council on previous occasion, and I come back to it, as it is an important one. Iraq has declared that it produced about 8,500 liters of this biological warfare agent, which, it states, it unilaterally destroyed in the summer of 1991. Iraq has provided little evidence for this production and no convincing evidence for its destruction.
There are strong indications that Iraq produced more anthrax than it declared and that at least some of this was retained after the declared destruction date. It might still exist.
Was Iraq falsifying WMD documents?
Iraq did not declare a significant quantity, some 650 kilos, of bacterial growth media, which was acknowledged, as reported, in Iraq's submissions to the Amorim panel in February of 1999. As a part of its 7 December 2002, declaration, Iraq resubmitted the Amorim panel document, but the table showing this particular import of media was not included. The absence of this table would appear to be deliberate, as the pages of the resubmitted document were renumbered .This is not evidence. I note that the quantity of the media involved would suffice to produce, for example, about 5,000 liters of concentrated anthrax.
The Politics of WAR
As far as being legal
Senate approves Iraq war resolution - CNN
Failure?
We are leaving
Saddam is gone
There is a republic in place
Now you may not like this, but you people are going to have to learn to live with this
Good lord, he's spamming again with shit that was debunked in five different threads a month ago.
After all this time you finally did the right thing, I could care less if you agree with me. That is your place in life not mine
as far as Egypt and Qaddafi (Libya) goes, can you tell me why we did what we did there? Can you explain to me why Obama thought it would be better to ignore us? ignore congress?
GWB spent 18 months dotting every I and crossing every T prior to invading Iraq. BHO just does as he pleases
I have never seen anything so up-side down in my life as this mess is
and one other thing, we would have been out of there years ago if not for the real enemy, Al Qaeda
and last but not least, your death toll and who is resp. is in correct
Our entire foreign policy is about $ and treasure (usually oil). It's not a coincidence that Iraq and Libya are oil rich. And it's not a coincidence that we're always talking tough with Syria and Iran, who are also oil rich. Look at all the leaders of countries who kill their own people that we ignore.
Both Bush and Obama have attacked Somalia without declaring war or anything, so don't give me the bs about one of them giving a damn about what's illegal and what's not. If we want to bomb a country, we'll do it, irregardless of law and Constitution and irregardless fo what trash party is in power.
A friend of hezbollah runs Iraq, so I don't believe your terrorism excuse. Besides Saudi Arabia are our dear friends and that's where most terrorists come from, there or Egypt another ally of ours.
Whether the death toll is 1,000, 10,000, 100,000 or 100,000,000 the war would've still been wrong and not worth it. The soldiers should still be alive, if it weren't for our scum government (both parties) flushing their lives down the toilet.
! death is to many
1 million is way to many
Oil is abundant right here, that's just a story the left got started and here we are keeping it going
GWB attacked Somalia? I just wrote a thread about shit the left state and cannot back it up
I goggled bush attack Somalia and got one hit from US Launches Missile Attack In Somalia
if you say so
You people who claim we lost the war in Iraq as we leave there and they are doing fine with a republic in place better think twice or at best look who is standing around you when you claim we lost that war just because GWB was the president and it was his war
I am not kidding. I know some gung ho marines who do not feel that way and I am clueless as to why any of you would feel that way
ARE U NUTS?
You are kidding yourself.
Most of the detractors are claiming it is a loss because it is President Obama who is ordering them to pull out.
But here is where the rubber meets the road so to speak. Without US forces to secure the peace, how long will it be before the militant factions start warring in ernest, if ever. Frankly I hope I'm wrong and all goes well over there without US Troops.
So your trying to give credit to Obama ending the war?
You know there are people who get paid to spam these message boards, you can usually spot them miles away
the left wing kooks will accuse and make statements that have never been stated just to get them stated
Like "Most of the detractors are claiming it is a loss because it is President Obama who is ordering them to pull out."
That's sad. you and I know that has never happened until just now dude, where is your link to back that up or will you allow me to prove my point?
better hurry, people are watching
Our entire foreign policy is about $ and treasure (usually oil). It's not a coincidence that Iraq and Libya are oil rich. And it's not a coincidence that we're always talking tough with Syria and Iran, who are also oil rich. Look at all the leaders of countries who kill their own people that we ignore.
Both Bush and Obama have attacked Somalia without declaring war or anything, so don't give me the bs about one of them giving a damn about what's illegal and what's not. If we want to bomb a country, we'll do it, irregardless of law and Constitution and irregardless fo what trash party is in power.
A friend of hezbollah runs Iraq, so I don't believe your terrorism excuse. Besides Saudi Arabia are our dear friends and that's where most terrorists come from, there or Egypt another ally of ours.
Whether the death toll is 1,000, 10,000, 100,000 or 100,000,000 the war would've still been wrong and not worth it. The soldiers should still be alive, if it weren't for our scum government (both parties) flushing their lives down the toilet.
! death is to many
1 million is way to many
Oil is abundant right here, that's just a story the left got started and here we are keeping it going
GWB attacked Somalia? I just wrote a thread about shit the left state and cannot back it up
I goggled bush attack Somalia and got one hit from US Launches Missile Attack In Somalia
if you say so
Thank you for agreeing that Bush attacked Somalia and providing a link that proves me right.
You can continue to think it's a coincidence that we're always "saving" people in oil rich areas, I'll live in reality.
Democrats (and republicans) authorized the president to use combat troops in Iraq to enforce about a hundred UN sanctions and then democrats either sat back and pretended to be bystanders or purposely undermined the Military effort. The NY Times had a full page ($10,000 a pop) ad calling the US commander "betray-us". Does anyone think republicans paid for the ad? The senate majority leader tried to influence the morale of the Troops and the American public when he said "the war is lost" just as the Troop Surge was underway. Democrats snickered as crazy Sheehan anti-war demonstratios disrupted Military funerals or camped outside Bush's home at Crawford Texas and displayed filthy insulting signs while they pissed in the road. Where are they today?
Twisted History.
Let me take one example.
"Madam President, the White House has been telling America that Democrats are doing the wrong thing by calling for a change of course in Iraq. They say holding the Iraqi Government accountable is wrong. They say finding a political solution Iraq is wrong. They say redeploying troops out of a civil war is wrong. They have said even debating a strategy for changing course is dangerous, and many Senate Republicans have backed that up by blocking several of our attempts to debate this issue here on the Senate Floor.....
Conditions in Iraq get worse by the day. Now we find ourselves policing another nation's civil war. We are less secure from the many threats to our national security than we were when the war began. As long as we follow the President's path in Iraq, the war is lost. But there is still a chance to change course and we must change course."
All that and the public is left with "The War is Lost"
American Sheeples.
And it was before the so called surge
Well well
trying to move on from claiming that Obama pulled the troops huh?
And the man stated the war was lost, do not recall the change course part of it, missed your link Boo
You are kidding yourself.
Most of the detractors are claiming it is a loss because it is President Obama who is ordering them to pull out.
But here is where the rubber meets the road so to speak. Without US forces to secure the peace, how long will it be before the militant factions start warring in ernest, if ever. Frankly I hope I'm wrong and all goes well over there without US Troops.
So your trying to give credit to Obama ending the war?
You know there are people who get paid to spam these message boards, you can usually spot them miles away
the left wing kooks will accuse and make statements that have never been stated just to get them stated
Like "Most of the detractors are claiming it is a loss because it is President Obama who is ordering them to pull out."
That's sad. you and I know that has never happened until just now dude, where is your link to back that up or will you allow me to prove my point?
better hurry, people are watching
Hahahahahahaha....ummm...ha. Did you just call me a bad name. Naughty RFK. Here's proving once again you are a "Moroonie"
Over the weekend, numerous GOP leaders like Lindsey Graham and John McCain — and even some presidential candidates like Mitt Romney and Michele Bachmann — predictably used the news to blame the Obama administration.
Jon Stewart Mocks GOP Over Blaming Obama For Bush’s Iraq Withdrawal Agreement | Mediaite
So your trying to give credit to Obama ending the war?
You know there are people who get paid to spam these message boards, you can usually spot them miles away
the left wing kooks will accuse and make statements that have never been stated just to get them stated
Like "Most of the detractors are claiming it is a loss because it is President Obama who is ordering them to pull out."
That's sad. you and I know that has never happened until just now dude, where is your link to back that up or will you allow me to prove my point?
better hurry, people are watching
Hahahahahahaha....ummm...ha. Did you just call me a bad name. Naughty RFK. Here's proving once again you are a "Moroonie"
Over the weekend, numerous GOP leaders like Lindsey Graham and John McCain and even some presidential candidates like Mitt Romney and Michele Bachmann predictably used the news to blame the Obama administration.
Jon Stewart Mocks GOP Over Blaming Obama For Bushs Iraq Withdrawal Agreement | Mediaite
President Obama's astonishing failure to secure an orderly transition in Iraq has unnecessarily put at risk the victories that were won through the blood and sacrifice of thousands of American men and women," he said. "The unavoidable question is whether this decision is the result of a naked political calculation or simply sheer ineptitude in negotiations with the Iraqi government. The American people deserve to hear the recommendations that were made by our military commanders in Iraq."
A deal to withdraw all troops from Iraq by the end of 2011 was negotiated in 2008, under the administration of former President George W. Bush. Over the past few months, Obama administration Iraqi officials reportedly worked on a deal to leave a few thousand military trainers in the country past the end of the year, but they could not come to an agreement because the Iraqis refused to grant U.S. troops immunity from prosecution in Iraqi courts.
The Obama reelection campaign responded to Romney's statement by saying Mr. Obama "kept his pledge to the nation to end the war in Iraq in a responsible way," and also by criticizing Romney.
"Mitt Romney didn't lay out a plan to end the war in Iraq in his foreign policy agenda - he barely even mentioned Iraq - but he is apparently willing to leave American troops there without identifying a new mission," said Obama for American Press Secretary Ben LaBolt. "Mitt Romney's foreign policy experience is limited to his work as a finance executive shipping American jobs overseas."
Romney, Perry hammer Obama over Iraq pullout - Political Hotsheet - CBS News
Romeny is an idiot, but the issue was not as you said it was as usual. no-one has denied the 2008 agreement
you tried to ignore and got caught
By the way, you accused me of calling you a name, you should at least tell me what it was
Hahahahahahaha....ummm...ha. Did you just call me a bad name. Naughty RFK. Here's proving once again you are a "Moroonie"
Over the weekend, numerous GOP leaders like Lindsey Graham and John McCain and even some presidential candidates like Mitt Romney and Michele Bachmann predictably used the news to blame the Obama administration.
Jon Stewart Mocks GOP Over Blaming Obama For Bushs Iraq Withdrawal Agreement | Mediaite
President Obama's astonishing failure to secure an orderly transition in Iraq has unnecessarily put at risk the victories that were won through the blood and sacrifice of thousands of American men and women," he said. "The unavoidable question is whether this decision is the result of a naked political calculation or simply sheer ineptitude in negotiations with the Iraqi government. The American people deserve to hear the recommendations that were made by our military commanders in Iraq."
A deal to withdraw all troops from Iraq by the end of 2011 was negotiated in 2008, under the administration of former President George W. Bush. Over the past few months, Obama administration Iraqi officials reportedly worked on a deal to leave a few thousand military trainers in the country past the end of the year, but they could not come to an agreement because the Iraqis refused to grant U.S. troops immunity from prosecution in Iraqi courts.
The Obama reelection campaign responded to Romney's statement by saying Mr. Obama "kept his pledge to the nation to end the war in Iraq in a responsible way," and also by criticizing Romney.
"Mitt Romney didn't lay out a plan to end the war in Iraq in his foreign policy agenda - he barely even mentioned Iraq - but he is apparently willing to leave American troops there without identifying a new mission," said Obama for American Press Secretary Ben LaBolt. "Mitt Romney's foreign policy experience is limited to his work as a finance executive shipping American jobs overseas."
Romney, Perry hammer Obama over Iraq pullout - Political Hotsheet - CBS News
Romeny is an idiot, but the issue was not as you said it was as usual. no-one has denied the 2008 agreement
you tried to ignore and got caught
By the way, you accused me of calling you a name, you should at least tell me what it was
I think you must have reading comprehension issues.
