Is Israel's wall evil?

[Indeependent]

I think it’s wonderful when old timers are murdering each other for “god’s“ sake.
Do you see how stupid you look when you legitimize mass murder because, “Well, they always lived there”?
By the way, many of these populations were moved around post WWI and post WWII.

Never said I support genocide, I don't.

However, Israeli Jews are mostly of recent foreigner origins who commit genocide.

Prove it.
I have yet to see a starving Pali.
And their population has been growing by leaps and bounds since 1948.
Thus, you are a bald faced liar.

10's of thousands of Palestinians have been killed by Israel since 1947.

Who attacked first?
That’s my promoting you to post, for the umpteenth time, your out of context, out of chronological order, revisionist history...

Who wouldn't attack someone declaring a Nation on their own lands?

Don’t you just hate the UN?
I now understand why every nation rebordered post-WWII was pissed.
I now understand why every nation rebordered post-WWII is pissed.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Tell that to India and Pakistan.
And the entire Muslim world.
And the Balkans.

Most Jewish Israelis moved there in the 20th century.

Most Indians, Pakistanis, and ex Yugoslav Serbs, Croats, and Bosniaks had been there for far, far, longer.

I think it’s wonderful when old timers are murdering each other for “god’s“ sake.
Do you see how stupid you look when you legitimize mass murder because, “Well, they always lived there”?
By the way, many of these populations were moved around post WWI and post WWII.

Most of the so-called "Palestinians" moved in after the 6-day war.

Source?

Most of the so-called Palestinians moved in centuries before most of the so called Yiddish speaking Zionists, had.

Wrong. They moved in afterwards to take advantage of the thriving economy the Israelis created.

Zionists are such Propagandists, Palestine was only 8.1% Jewish in 1918, the other 92.9% were almost all Arabs, mostly Islamic Arabs, but also including some Arab Christians.

Jewish & Non-Jewish Population of Israel/Palestine (1517-Present)

 

[Indeependent]

Most Jewish Israelis moved there in the 20th century.

Most Indians, Pakistanis, and ex Yugoslav Serbs, Croats, and Bosniaks had been there for far, far, longer.

I think it’s wonderful when old timers are murdering each other for “god’s“ sake.
Do you see how stupid you look when you legitimize mass murder because, “Well, they always lived there”?
By the way, many of these populations were moved around post WWI and post WWII.

Most of the so-called "Palestinians" moved in after the 6-day war.

Source?

Most of the so-called Palestinians moved in centuries before most of the so called Yiddish speaking Zionists, had.

Wrong. They moved in afterwards to take advantage of the thriving economy the Israelis created.

Zionists are such Propagandists, Palestine was only 8.1% Jewish in 1918, the other 92.9% were almost all Arabs, mostly Islamic Arabs, but also including some Arab Christians.

Jewish & Non-Jewish Population of Israel/Palestine (1517-Present)

UN plus dozens of nations rebordered and many still at war.
You lose.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Never said I support genocide, I don't.

However, Israeli Jews are mostly of recent foreigner origins who commit genocide.

Prove it.
I have yet to see a starving Pali.
And their population has been growing by leaps and bounds since 1948.
Thus, you are a bald faced liar.

10's of thousands of Palestinians have been killed by Israel since 1947.

The Palestinians have killed thousands of Israelis. More importantly, the Palestinians always took the first shot.

Lets get some facts here, links would be nice.

Let's not be cute, or evasive. YOU know for a fact that this is going on in Fake Palestine.

Palestinian Authority Pays Terrorists, Families $140M a Year

Palestinian town names street for killer of 2 Israelis

Palestinians Name Schools After Terrorists and Nazi Collaborators

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

Iran to Pay Palestinian Families of Killed Terrorists | Messianic Bible

Palestinian TV: Kill All The Jews

'Palestinian' Authority: ‘Better to kill a Jew than keep a job’ - Geller Report

Palestinian President Abbas Vows To Keep Paying Families Of Terrorists

So, Israelis don't name things after Jewish Zionist terrorists like Menachem Begin?????

Keep in mind Menachem Begin was behind an Irgun who blew up the King David Hotel killing British peacekeepers, and massacred a Palestinian village at Deir Yassin Massacre.

There's also Israelis who have called for genocide of Palestinians, Like one Israeli Politiician Ayelet Shaked.

How much does Israel pay the IDF to be terrorists who shoot into crowds killing, and maiming crowds of Palestinians?

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Never said I support genocide, I don't.

However, Israeli Jews are mostly of recent foreigner origins who commit genocide.

Prove it.
I have yet to see a starving Pali.
And their population has been growing by leaps and bounds since 1948.
Thus, you are a bald faced liar.

10's of thousands of Palestinians have been killed by Israel since 1947.

Who attacked first?
That’s my promoting you to post, for the umpteenth time, your out of context, out of chronological order, revisionist history...

Who wouldn't attack someone declaring a Nation on their own lands?

Don’t you just hate the UN?
I now understand why every nation rebordered post-WWII was pissed.
I now understand why every nation rebordered post-WWII is pissed.

Hey, I'm well aware Human nature causes the issues, why do you think I support Eugenics?

I think the sheer number of Zionists in America, proves that a lot of people haven't learned Morality, they are vile, and are very volatile & easily brainwashed, supporting the theft, and massacres upon Palestine by Israel.

Yet, most of these Zionists say oh no, it's Big Government is the problem, it's Socialism which is the problem.

Fact is it's not so much, Rwanda, Darfur, and Rohingya are each genocides of the recent era of small government, and then there's the fact that the Capitalist British Empire + Capitalist British dominated USA have killed every bit as much as Commies.

Flipping through different government types, when Human natures the clear issue, is a sort of retarded madness.

 

[bripat9643]

Trump's wall as we all know is supposed to be "evil". But what about Israel's wall? Shouldn't Israel have an open border?

Only if they want a free society.

That would be the surest way to end their society, dumbass. The wall doesn't infringe on the freedoms of Israelis one iota.

The problem with this viewpoint is that you can't just limit the rights of illegals. Until you've stopped someone and interrogated them, you don't know whether they are legal or not. That's the catch in this kind of authoritarian logic.

It's the same problem we run into with the "war" on terror nonsense. People say things like "Terrorists don't have rights under the Constitution". But that completely ignores the question of how we decide whether someone is a terrorist in the first place. Likewise, all the additional security added to assuage our fears of brown labor, will violate the rights of legal US citizens every bit as much as it violates the rights of "illegals". It will subject all of us to police state government.

The problem you descriptive (if it in fact existed) is worse without the wall. The wall keeps them out of the country in the first place, so we don't have to go around checking everyone's credentials.

However, we all know where these illegals are. Their children are in our schools. We should require children to produce their birth certificates to attend schools. If they weren't born here, then their parents should be required to prove they are citizens. That would identify about 90% of all the illegals. The same goes for driver's license. You shouldn't be issued one unless you can prove you are legally in the country.

Proof Trumps daddy was a citizen, good luck with that.

Trump's father is the one who needs to prove it. Not me. If he couldn't prove it, then he should be on a boat back to where he came from.

 

[bripat9643]

I think it’s wonderful when old timers are murdering each other for “god’s“ sake.
Do you see how stupid you look when you legitimize mass murder because, “Well, they always lived there”?
By the way, many of these populations were moved around post WWI and post WWII.

Never said I support genocide, I don't.

However, Israeli Jews are mostly of recent foreigner origins who commit genocide.

Prove it.
I have yet to see a starving Pali.
And their population has been growing by leaps and bounds since 1948.
Thus, you are a bald faced liar.

10's of thousands of Palestinians have been killed by Israel since 1947.

Who attacked first?
That’s my promoting you to post, for the umpteenth time, your out of context, out of chronological order, revisionist history...

Who wouldn't attack someone declaring a Nation on their own lands?

It's not their land, moron. That has been proven a 1000 times in this forum already.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Never said I support genocide, I don't.

However, Israeli Jews are mostly of recent foreigner origins who commit genocide.

Prove it.
I have yet to see a starving Pali.
And their population has been growing by leaps and bounds since 1948.
Thus, you are a bald faced liar.

10's of thousands of Palestinians have been killed by Israel since 1947.

Who attacked first?
That’s my promoting you to post, for the umpteenth time, your out of context, out of chronological order, revisionist history...

Who wouldn't attack someone declaring a Nation on their own lands?

It's not their land, moron. That has been proven a 1000 times in this forum already.

Uh, Actually I already proved on this forum 1,000 times that Arabs owned more land & made up more population before a bunch of Immigrant Yiddish speakers founded Israel by Terrorism.

Zionists are painfully retarded & morally bankrupt.

 

[Indeependent]

Prove it.
I have yet to see a starving Pali.
And their population has been growing by leaps and bounds since 1948.
Thus, you are a bald faced liar.

10's of thousands of Palestinians have been killed by Israel since 1947.

Who attacked first?
That’s my promoting you to post, for the umpteenth time, your out of context, out of chronological order, revisionist history...

Who wouldn't attack someone declaring a Nation on their own lands?

Don’t you just hate the UN?
I now understand why every nation rebordered post-WWII was pissed.
I now understand why every nation rebordered post-WWII is pissed.

Hey, I'm well aware Human nature causes the issues, why do you think I support Eugenics?

I think the sheer number of Zionists in America, proves that a lot of people haven't learned Morality, they are vile, and are very volatile & easily brainwashed, supporting the theft, and massacres upon Palestine by Israel.

Yet, most of these Zionists say oh no, it's Big Government is the problem, it's Socialism which is the problem.

Fact is it's not so much, Rwanda, Darfur, and Rohingya are each genocides of the recent era of small government, and then there's the fact that the Capitalist British Empire + Capitalist British dominated USA have killed every bit as much as Commies.

Flipping through different government types, when Human natures the clear issue, is a sort of retarded madness.

You lose due to context and chronological truth.

 

[bripat9643]

Prove it.
I have yet to see a starving Pali.
And their population has been growing by leaps and bounds since 1948.
Thus, you are a bald faced liar.

10's of thousands of Palestinians have been killed by Israel since 1947.

Who attacked first?
That’s my promoting you to post, for the umpteenth time, your out of context, out of chronological order, revisionist history...

Who wouldn't attack someone declaring a Nation on their own lands?

It's not their land, moron. That has been proven a 1000 times in this forum already.

Uh, Actually I already proved on this forum 1,000 times that Arabs owned more land & made up more population before a bunch of Immigrant Yiddish speakers founded Israel by Terrorism.

Zionists are painfully retarded & morally bankrupt.

Where?

 

[Indeependent]

Prove it.
I have yet to see a starving Pali.
And their population has been growing by leaps and bounds since 1948.
Thus, you are a bald faced liar.

10's of thousands of Palestinians have been killed by Israel since 1947.

Who attacked first?
That’s my promoting you to post, for the umpteenth time, your out of context, out of chronological order, revisionist history...

Who wouldn't attack someone declaring a Nation on their own lands?

It's not their land, moron. That has been proven a 1000 times in this forum already.

Uh, Actually I already proved on this forum 1,000 times that Arabs owned more land & made up more population before a bunch of Immigrant Yiddish speakers founded Israel by Terrorism.

Zionists are painfully retarded & morally bankrupt.

Jews must be really kewl.

 

[The Original Tree]

This Moron thinks there are actually people called "Palestinians"

The only thing close to that is the term The Romans used for The Jewish Homeland of Israel, "Palestine".

There are no ethnic or genetic group called Palestinians unless your are referring to what The Romans called The Jews.

 

[Penelope]

This Moron thinks there are actually people called "Palestinians"

The only thing close to that is the term The Romans used for The Jewish Homeland of Israel, "Palestine".

There are no ethnic or genetic group called Palestinians unless your are referring to what The Romans called The Jews.

Palestinians are the ancient people who lived there for may years, if you will the Canaanites aka Hebrews. They never left, they stayed through thick and thin, till the British sent some mercenaries AKA some Poland, Russian and German Jews there to guard the Suez Canal. Which is why the Palestinians are Jews , Christians, and Muslims in their religious beliefs.

 

[Penelope]

Only if they want a free society.

That would be the surest way to end their society, dumbass. The wall doesn't infringe on the freedoms of Israelis one iota.

The problem with this viewpoint is that you can't just limit the rights of illegals. Until you've stopped someone and interrogated them, you don't know whether they are legal or not. That's the catch in this kind of authoritarian logic.

It's the same problem we run into with the "war" on terror nonsense. People say things like "Terrorists don't have rights under the Constitution". But that completely ignores the question of how we decide whether someone is a terrorist in the first place. Likewise, all the additional security added to assuage our fears of brown labor, will violate the rights of legal US citizens every bit as much as it violates the rights of "illegals". It will subject all of us to police state government.

The problem you descriptive (if it in fact existed) is worse without the wall. The wall keeps them out of the country in the first place, so we don't have to go around checking everyone's credentials.

However, we all know where these illegals are. Their children are in our schools. We should require children to produce their birth certificates to attend schools. If they weren't born here, then their parents should be required to prove they are citizens. That would identify about 90% of all the illegals. The same goes for driver's license. You shouldn't be issued one unless you can prove you are legally in the country.

Proof Trumps daddy was a citizen, good luck with that.

Trump's father is the one who needs to prove it. Not me. If he couldn't prove it, then he should be on a boat back to where he came from.

How about Melania. Her parents ? just became citizens according to who knows who.

How about the Daca kids born on US soil???

How about D'Souza's wife , what is she. She claims her mother is a US citizen, perhaps we should check out her papers.

 

[Indeependent]

This Moron thinks there are actually people called "Palestinians"

The only thing close to that is the term The Romans used for The Jewish Homeland of Israel, "Palestine".

There are no ethnic or genetic group called Palestinians unless your are referring to what The Romans called The Jews.

Palestinians are the ancient people who lived there for may years, if you will the Canaanites aka Hebrews. They never left, they stayed through thick and thin, till the British sent some mercenaries AKA some Poland, Russian and German Jews there to guard the Suez Canal. Which is why the Palestinians are Jews , Christians, and Muslims in their religious beliefs.

The Romans didn’t want the worthless, uneducated Arabs.

 

[dblack]

This Moron thinks there are actually people called "Palestinians"

The only thing close to that is the term The Romans used for The Jewish Homeland of Israel, "Palestine".

There are no ethnic or genetic group called Palestinians unless your are referring to what The Romans called The Jews.

Palestinians are the ancient people who lived there for may years, if you will the Canaanites aka Hebrews. They never left, they stayed through thick and thin, till the British sent some mercenaries AKA some Poland, Russian and German Jews there to guard the Suez Canal. Which is why the Palestinians are Jews , Christians, and Muslims in their religious beliefs.

The Romans didn’t want the worthless, uneducated Arabs.

Yes. Let's follow the Romans' example.

 

[Penelope]

This Moron thinks there are actually people called "Palestinians"

The only thing close to that is the term The Romans used for The Jewish Homeland of Israel, "Palestine".

There are no ethnic or genetic group called Palestinians unless your are referring to what The Romans called The Jews.

Palestinians are the ancient people who lived there for may years, if you will the Canaanites aka Hebrews. They never left, they stayed through thick and thin, till the British sent some mercenaries AKA some Poland, Russian and German Jews there to guard the Suez Canal. Which is why the Palestinians are Jews , Christians, and Muslims in their religious beliefs.

The Romans didn’t want the worthless, uneducated Arabs.

The real Hebrews are arabs before the moved about Europe and asia, and the Romans accepted all. The hebews began out breeding since the time when the tribes moved about. There are no purebred Jews. Do you actually think the tribes of Palestine didn't fight one another, but they were all Canaanites because that is where they lived , in the land of Canaan.

 

[Indeependent]

This Moron thinks there are actually people called "Palestinians"

The only thing close to that is the term The Romans used for The Jewish Homeland of Israel, "Palestine".

There are no ethnic or genetic group called Palestinians unless your are referring to what The Romans called The Jews.

Palestinians are the ancient people who lived there for may years, if you will the Canaanites aka Hebrews. They never left, they stayed through thick and thin, till the British sent some mercenaries AKA some Poland, Russian and German Jews there to guard the Suez Canal. Which is why the Palestinians are Jews , Christians, and Muslims in their religious beliefs.

The Romans didn’t want the worthless, uneducated Arabs.

Yes. Let's follow the Romans' example.

Let us know when you go to Syria or Sudan on vacation.

 

[Indeependent]

This Moron thinks there are actually people called "Palestinians"

The only thing close to that is the term The Romans used for The Jewish Homeland of Israel, "Palestine".

There are no ethnic or genetic group called Palestinians unless your are referring to what The Romans called The Jews.

Palestinians are the ancient people who lived there for may years, if you will the Canaanites aka Hebrews. They never left, they stayed through thick and thin, till the British sent some mercenaries AKA some Poland, Russian and German Jews there to guard the Suez Canal. Which is why the Palestinians are Jews , Christians, and Muslims in their religious beliefs.

The Romans didn’t want the worthless, uneducated Arabs.

The real Hebrews are arabs before , and the Romans accepted all. The hebews began out breeding since the time when the tribes moved about. There are no purebred Jews. Do you actually think the tribes of Palestine didn't fight one another, but they were all Canaanites because that is where they lived , in the land of Canaan.

Sure, cupcake.
Unfortunately for jerks like you we have the unbroken chain of writings of Jews from the 2nd Temple and onwards.

 

[Penelope]

It will be in the Israel they will get sick of living in walls.