Is infinite regression possible?

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If not, what has always existed that didn't require another to cause it to exist?
 
If not, what has always existed that didn't require another to cause it to exist?

If you are getting at the big bang, then the theorists have conveniently decided that gravity and time are so interconnected that there is no beginning, just an infinite cycle of expansion and contraction or something along those lines. They are basically sticking with the big bang while denying there was one at least in the way we mere peons think of it.
 
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Not surprisingly, this thread didn't get much mileage. I'll chalk it up to inconvenient logic.
 
Yes, it is possible, and it depends on your frame of reference. Watching someone fall into a black hole would be one example. Our universe unfurling in our real timeline, while time itself remains boundless,is another example, as demonstrated by Hawking.

The apparent "paradox" here was resolved when we learned to sum infinite series.
 
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Yes, it is possible, and it depends on your frame of reference. Watching someone fall into a black hole would be one example. Our universe unfurling in our real timeline, while time itself remains boundless,is another example, as demonstrared by Hawking.

The apparent "paradox" here was resolved when we learned to sum infinite series.
Hawking f.ucked up everything he touched

The man who proved Stephen Hawking wrong

Why Hawking is Wrong About Black Holes - Universe Today
 
Yes, it is possible, and it depends on your frame of reference. Watching someone fall into a black hole would be one example. Our universe unfurling in our real timeline, while time itself remains boundless,is another example, as demonstrared by Hawking.

The apparent "paradox" here was resolved when we learned to sum infinite series.
Hawking f.ucked up everything he touched

The man who proved Stephen Hawking wrong

Why Hawking is Wrong About Black Holes - Universe Today
Irrelvant whining by the irrelevant troll....
 
Yes, it is possible, and it depends on your frame of reference. Watching someone fall into a black hole would be one example. Our universe unfurling in our real timeline, while time itself remains boundless,is another example, as demonstrated by Hawking.

The apparent "paradox" here was resolved when we learned to sum infinite series.

So there was nothing that came first?
 
Yes, it is possible, and it depends on your frame of reference. Watching someone fall into a black hole would be one example. Our universe unfurling in our real timeline, while time itself remains boundless,is another example, as demonstrared by Hawking.

The apparent "paradox" here was resolved when we learned to sum infinite series.
Hawking f.ucked up everything he touched

The man who proved Stephen Hawking wrong

Why Hawking is Wrong About Black Holes - Universe Today
Irrelvant whining by the irrelevant troll....
Seriously kid if you have nothing to add be quiet

Hawking f.ucked up everything he touched

The man who proved Stephen Hawking wrong

Why Hawking is Wrong About Black Holes - Universe Today
 
So there was nothing that came first?
Possibly, yes, as far as we can tell. If you travelled backwards in time, as we understand it, you would never reach a boundary.

That's illogical. It's "Anything but God" theory. What you're saying is that, nothing came first because, there is always something that came before it and that time had no beginning. You are desperate to avoid acknowledging the inevitable.
 
What you're saying is that, nothing came first because, there is always something that came before it and that time had no beginning
I am saying that is POSSIBLE. And that such a state of affairs would,indeed, be the case,from our perspective, in a boundless universe (as may be the case). Second, even if what I say is the correct description, gods have not been ruled out anyway.

Why even start a discussion, if you are just going to misrepresent others? That's childish and dishonest.

Furthermore, my motives for a certain argument are totally irrelevant to whether or not the argument is "logical" (you mean to say, "valid", but we can worry about educating you on that later). Get that through your head; you are embarassing yourself to limit your rebuttal to that nonsense.

And you forgot to say what was "illogical", despite that claim being the first sentence of your post. How odd.

So, now that your misrepresentation of my comments has been corrected:

What was "illogical"? Be thorough.
 
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Scientists generally think our universe is boundless. I.E., our spacetime is boundless. Therefore, time would be boundless. Travel through time in either direction, and you will never reach a boundary.
 

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