Zone1 Is Feminism Destroying the West?

[Trickster]

Because women are trying to be men.

In your sexual fantasies maybe.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

So less young men are sexually active today. Big whoop. If they dont want a wife and kids then thats fine. We dont need young people who cannot afford the above to have those things. I see it as apositive trend. Its called being responsible. If they go out and have kids they cant afford a good many people will complain about it. They will be called out for being leeches and needing freebies and such. So affordability is also a big part of this.

That would be all fine and dandy if the effects of being single and alone later in life weren't so damaging, especially to women.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

You are far too deep into the pseudoscience that is evo-psych and have consumed far too much MGTOW, Red Pill and Incel brainrot to see reality for what it actually is.

Again, more cop outs. There's no argument here, you're just spewing labels. I could say you're too woke and watching too much CNN but that's not an actual point. Anytime you say anything like that, it means literally nothing, you make no progress in supporting any opinions or stances you have.. so I don't get why you bother.

Men and women are not as different as you want them to be and the groups are not as homogenous as you want them to be.

It doesn't matter what I want them to be, it's that they are different. You haven't pointed to any of the many differences I've listed and said or reasoned why they aren't true.

I speak in generalities here, as in "Take 1000 men and 1000 women".. and then note the patterns. This isn't new. I always notice that those that have problems with these proven differences flock to anecdotes and exceptions... but that's not what I'm referring to.

You come across as insane. Deluded.

Again, I don't care how I come across to you. I'm providing content with points and arguments.

The only thing that stands out in your comment and that deserves a comment is:
Can you name matriarchal societies in which women create, invent, and protect the society? It doesn't exist, because it can't.

Of course you use "matriarchal" here as a comfort blanket to shield you from any counter-arguments with "hAhA nO tHaT's nOt a MaTriaRcHy," but I will not let you get away vwith this.

The answer is simple; The West.

Once women were recognized as individuals and given equal oppurtunity to pursue their happiness and live their own life, creation, wealth, innovation and production shot through roof.

It is not a coincidence that the freest countries are the superior ones to live in.

The pill made it even better.

"The West" is a patriarchal society through-and-through.
1. Women needed men to invent it, build it, progress it, and protect it.
2. Women needed men to allow them the rights they gained.
3. Women can never overthrow a Patriarchal system by themselves. The only way they could take control would be to utilize men as force, thus utilizing patriarchal systems to take over another patriarchal system.

 

[initforme]

That would be all fine and dandy if the effects of being single and alone later in life weren't so damaging, especially to women.

Maybe 100 years from now people will be concerned about this. Right now its not an issue.

 

[initforme]

Again, more cop outs. There's no argument here, you're just spewing labels. I could say you're too woke and watching too much CNN but that's not an actual point. Anytime you say anything like that, it means literally nothing, you make no progress in supporting any opinions or stances you have.. so I don't get why you bother.

It doesn't matter what I want them to be, it's that they are different. You haven't pointed to any of the many differences I've listed and said or reasoned why they aren't true.

I speak in generalities here, as in "Take 1000 men and 1000 women".. and then note the patterns. This isn't new. I always notice that those that have problems with these proven differences flock to anecdotes and exceptions... but that's not what I'm referring to.

Again, I don't care how I come across to you. I'm providing content with points and arguments.

"The West" is a patriarchal society through-and-through.
1. Women needed men to invent it, build it, progress it, and protect it.
2. Women needed men to allow them the rights they gained.
3. Women can never overthrow a Patriarchal system by themselves. The only way they could take control would be to utilize men as force, thus utilizing patriarchal systems to take over another patriarchal system.

I think young people are becoming increasingly independent. Yheres zero downsides to this. Its a positive trend.

 

[Leo123]

We're not talking about physiology, honey.

Yes we are. A woman is feminine, a woman is physiologically different than a man. Prove me wrong.

 

[Trickster]

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"The West" is a patriarchal society through-and-through.

That's a very RadFem position.

joke aside, no. The West is not patriarchical in the anthropological sense of the word. Certainly not "through and through".

Western societies are not organized along rigid gender roles where women are in chatge of child rearing whereas the men work the fields and hunt.

Western societies are modern and built on individual right where everyone is in control of their own fate.

1. Women needed men to invent it, build it, progress it, and protect it.

What do you mean "needed men"?

2. Women needed men to allow them the rights they gained.

No. Women needed government to first recognize their rights and then promise to protect them. Reducing this to "men" is a little silly.

3. Women can never overthrow a Patriarchal system by themselves. The only way they could take control would be to utilize men as force, thus utilizing patriarchal systems to take over another patriarchal system.

My dude, you're not making any sense.

 

[Trickster]

Yes we are. A woman is feminine, a woman is physiologically different than a man. Prove me wrong.

That's not typically how most people use the term. It oftentimes refers to the sociologic aspects of gender such as wearing a pink dress or playing with Barbies.

Boobies and vulvas are not what most mean when they say "feminine".

 

[DonGlock26]

If you want to call it that.

The solution is reversing the Left’s societal rot.

 

[initforme]

The solution is reversing the Left’s societal rot.

We arent going back to the 50s. Time to accept it.

 

[Trickster]

We arent going back to the 50s. Time to accept it.

He is acting all traditional, mocking women who choose a career whilst being childless himself.

Typical insecure man.

 

[initforme]

He is acting all traditional, mocking women who choose a career whilst being childless himself.

Typical insecure man.

I wont attack anyone, but women are a huge part of the workforce and thats never going to change. It takes two full time working people just to barely hang on. Its reality. Its only going to get more difficult for young people.

 

[Trickster]

That would be all fine and dandy if the effects of being single and alone later in life weren't so damaging, especially to women.

Especially to women?

I mean, women seem to be doing fine. Outperforming men in both education and career.

We don't see women becoming bitter incel losers.

 

[DonGlock26]

We arent going back to the 50s. Time to accept it.

No. The Left has been a disaster and it is time to reverse their insane policies.

 

[DonGlock26]

Especially to women?

I mean, women seem to be doing fine. Outperforming men in both education and career.

We don't see women becoming bitter incel losers.

Really? How many women are on psychiatric drugs?

 

[initforme]

No. The Left has been a disaster and it is time to reverse their insane policies.

Regardless, todays trends are only going to intensify. Things are going to get more difficult for young people. So i commend and support them for being more responsible and not getting married until much later in life. Its apisitive trend.

 

[Trickster]

Really? How many women are on psychiatric drugs?

There's an increase for both genders, but this brings us back to femininity and masculinity- men don't seek help because it's considered "femininie" to open up.

So, they commit suicide or shoot up their school instead.

 

[initforme]

Nobody is denying anyone from finding a mate. So a good percentage of women are choosing not to have kids or get married. So what? Who cares? Its not other peoples business. Nothing is stopping men from finding a mate if thats what they want. Wheres the problem if they dont want a wife and family? Whats the difference? This is a total non issue searching for a solution.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Especially to women?

I mean, women seem to be doing fine.

Eye of the beholder, isn't it?

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[Leo123]

That's not typically how most people use the term. It oftentimes refers to the sociologic aspects of gender such as wearing a pink dress or playing with Barbies.

Boobies and vulvas are not what most mean when they say "feminine".

Most people are not as brainwashed as you.