Zone1 Is Feminism Destroying the West?

[Trickster]

I wonder why no conservative women are posting in this thread

Trump is holding them back by their...privates.

 

[Leo123]

Define "femininity".

If you need that definition, you are already lost.

 

[Trickster]

If you need that definition, you are already lost.

Oooh, the machismo, big-ball, masculine bro is afraid of definitions, huh?

Pathetic.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

I know it's hard to believe, but women are human too.

I never said they weren't. I actually mentioned both men and women.

You seem to think women are just preprogrammed, mechanical automatons who lack agency, individual preferences and values.

I don't seem to think, I know both men and women have biological programming, based on how they evolved, their genetic makeup, etc. You can't social engineer the ingredients out of the cake. However, it's very telling that you're only addressing women here, as if I'm not talking about both men and women here.

Romantic and sexual attraction among humans is something very complex and comparing it to animals who just sniff butts or kill each other to choose a mate is, well, r-tarded.

I never mentioned any animals. Yes, attraction is indeed complex, but there are general differences between what men and women find attractive. Men generally find women who display femininity, agreeableness, physical attractiveness, etc. as attractive. Women generally find men who are strong, masculine, competent, admired, providers and protectors attractive.

"Invaded", hahahahaha.
Both men and women connect emotionally through sex. However, both genders are equally capable of having sex for sheer pleasure.

1. Not at the same rate.
2. If 100 men and 100 women all have 100 sexual partners, the two groups will generally turn out VERY differently, because men and women psychologically react to sex differently. We know this.

there's nothing wrong with that.


I did not expect you to speak up against slutshaming. I applaude that.

Why? It's a good check on women to maintain their best attributes and set them up for better lives. Men need to be checked too, like if they are lazy jobless hobos who live in their parents basement. Both examples involve a person partaking in a behavior that will harm their ability to get a partner they desire to attract.

The pill gave women control over their own destiny and ensured their right to purauit of happiness.

Parenthood should always be a choice.

Indeed, and how does parenthood happen? Sex. Sex has one central function: To make children. It feels good to do, but again, you can't take the ingredients out of the cake. And kids aren't just kids, they are children to a mother and father, and those mothers and fathers change behaviorally and psychologically by having children... and usually for the better when in the best scenario: A 2-parent household with a mom and dad.

What's your solution? Arranged marriages?

Huh? No. We should cater our society to celebrate and constantly reenforce chaste women who value their sexual purity as much as possible, and celebrate the ones who succeed. Leftists, the woke, and feminists desire us to celebrate women who are very promiscuous and try to frame it as "empowering".. but again, it produces bad results, despite how it makes you feel.

Sex is not a bad to be feared.

It's also not something to be treated as nothing to worry about it. You're selling the candy bar to the child and telling them it tastes good, so you should do it as much as you want. I'm selling them the cautions of diabetes, obesity, etc... all the things that happen if you have too many candy bars.

Young people in religious communities and backwards theocracies are proofs of this.

How?

Your
assertion first starts with claims about "inate tolerence", but you finish it off with reference to "preference".

Men find higher reported happiness from more grinding/demanding jobs. If you put 100 men and 100 women in 70 hour work-week, high intensity jobs, women would (and do) report far greater degrees of unhappiness than men, and this makes complete sense given how men and women evolved.

This is just misogyny.

Explain.
1. How are men not more likely to be physically aggressive.
2. How are women not more likely to be aggressive in other ways, such as manipulation and verbal coercion.

Raise your standards then.

It's not about me. It's about what our society guides people towards. Women are being bombarded with new technologies that are isolating them from the average population of men, which is why our rate of replacement is plummeting. Social media satisfies their need for attention, Tinder and dating apps gives them endless options rather than just living within your proximal community, as everyone did up until 20 years ago. This causes stagnation, like a menu that has 1,000 items on it. There's too much choice (and this goes both for men and women.. but moreso for women)

What? Lmao.

Women are more communal than men. Do you disagree?

You are not demonstrating that here.

Can you name matriarchal societies in which women create, invent, and protect the society? It doesn't exist, because it can't.

You really have OD'd on red pills.

Yikes.

Are you just meme:ing now?

I am the one throwing tantrums? My dude, your brain is dead.

These are just cop outs. My points stand which you avoided:
1. Women are more concerned with being nice instead of dropping truths (this feeds into the communal aspect, they just want everyone to get along)
2. Young women who push finding a husband into their 30's significantly making sure it will never happen for the many reasons I mentioned.
3. Average people should marry average people, and you're average (unless you're a model), and I'm average.

 

[initforme]

It denied true womanhood and screwed up their behavioural psychology big time. Women and men are completely different, and a social contagion was put in to tempt women to act like men, and it's hurt them big time in many ways, no matter how much social engineering tries to convince you otherwise. Women report never being more unhappy, and anti-depressant use (specifically in 35+older women) is higher than all other subsets, and that's because they didn't have a family, were trained to never nurture, support, or cooperate, and never tapped into their psychological wheelhouse. They don't like working the long hours like men are fulfilled in doing. Women don't like the aggressive schedule, or not getting chivalry or protection from men and opening themselves to danger. They rely on the patriarchy to protect them, they couldn't survive on their own. Hell, the only reason women have rights is because men allowed it, or fought with them for it. It's not like women could overpower men.

From the numbers, they all seem to be screwing the same top 15-10% of men, giving those guys all the sex, but then are unable to get commitment from these high-demand guys. That frustrates them, and they get bitter, and attribute a high-demand guys' traits onto all men. They reward men who have the most options, and thus, aren't faithful, and aren't generally nice.

At the same time, today's women are coached by the sisterhood and feminist culture they should never “settle” for an “average man” even if they themselves are average (and they likely are, as most people are). So, they keep having sex with men out of their league, get frustrated that those guys don't keep them around, and refuse to "accept" the average guy who is normal, based, unexciting, and would make a good father.

Meanwhile, reported statistics show that more and more young men aren’t sexually active anymore, and that’s a bad thing for society in the long run. Thus, we know that basically the top 20% of men get like 80% of women's attention.

So less young men are sexually active today. Big whoop. If they dont want a wife and kids then thats fine. We dont need young people who cannot afford the above to have those things. I see it as apositive trend. Its called being responsible. If they go out and have kids they cant afford a good many people will complain about it. They will be called out for being leeches and needing freebies and such. So affordability is also a big part of this.

 

[Leo123]

Oooh, the machismo, big-ball, masculine bro is afraid of definitions, huh?

Pathetic.

If you need someone to tell you what a woman is, you’re the one that’s pathetic,

 

[Trickster]

I never said they weren't. I actually mentioned both men and women.

I don't seem to think, I know both men and women have biological programming, based on how they evolved, their genetic makeup, etc. You can't social engineer the ingredients out of the cake. However, it's very telling that you're only addressing women here, as if I'm not talking about both men and women here.

I never mentioned any animals. Yes, attraction is indeed complex, but there are general differences between what men and women find attractive. Men generally find women who display femininity, agreeableness, physical attractiveness, etc. as attractive. Women generally find men who are strong, masculine, competent, admired, providers and protectors attractive.

1. Not at the same rate.
2. If 100 men and 100 women all have 100 sexual partners, the two groups will generally turn out VERY differently, because men and women psychologically react to sex differently. We know this.

Why? It's a good check on women to maintain their best attributes and set them up for better lives. Men need to be checked too, like if they are lazy jobless hobos who live in their parents basement. Both examples involve a person partaking in a behavior that will harm their ability to get a partner they desire to attract.

Indeed, and how does parenthood happen? Sex. Sex has one central function: To make children. It feels good to do, but again, you can't take the ingredients out of the cake. And kids aren't just kids, they are children to a mother and father, and those mothers and fathers change behaviorally and psychologically by having children... and usually for the better when in the best scenario: A 2-parent household with a mom and dad.

Huh? No. We should cater our society to celebrate and constantly reenforce chaste women who value their sexual purity as much as possible, and celebrate the ones who succeed. Leftists, the woke, and feminists desire us to celebrate women who are very promiscuous and try to frame it as "empowering".. but again, it produces bad results, despite how it makes you feel.

It's also not something to be treated as nothing to worry about it. You're selling the candy bar to the child and telling them it tastes good, so you should do it as much as you want. I'm selling them the cautions of diabetes, obesity, etc... all the things that happen if you have too many candy bars.

How?

Men find higher reported happiness from more grinding/demanding jobs. If you put 100 men and 100 women in 70 hour work-week, high intensity jobs, women would (and do) report far greater degrees of unhappiness than men, and this makes complete sense given how men and women evolved.

Explain.
1. How are men not more likely to be physically aggressive.
2. How are women not more likely to be aggressive in other ways, such as manipulation and verbal coercion.

It's not about me. It's about what our society guides people towards. Women are being bombarded with new technologies that are isolating them from the average population of men, which is why our rate of replacement is plummeting. Social media satisfies their need for attention, Tinder and dating apps gives them endless options rather than just living within your proximal community, as everyone did up until 20 years ago. This causes stagnation, like a menu that has 1,000 items on it. There's too much choice (and this goes both for men and women.. but moreso for women)

Women are more communal than men. Do you disagree?

Can you name matriarchal societies in which women create, invent, and protect the society? It doesn't exist, because it can't.

These are just cop outs. My points stand which you avoided:
1. Women are more concerned with being nice instead of dropping truths (this feeds into the communal aspect, they just want everyone to get along)
2. Young women who push finding a husband into their 30's significantly making sure it will never happen for the many reasons I mentioned.
3. Average people should marry average people, and you're average (unless you're a model), and I'm average.

You are far too deep into the pseudoscience that is evo-psych and have consumed far too much MGTOW, Red Pill and Incel brainrot to see reality for what it actually is.

Men and women are not as different as you want them to be and the groups are not as homogenous as you want them to be.

You come across as insane. Deluded.

The only thing that stands out in your comment and that deserves a comment is:
Can you name matriarchal societies in which women create, invent, and protect the society? It doesn't exist, because it can't.

Of course you use "matriarchal" here as a comfort blanket to shield you from any counter-arguments with "hAhA nO tHaT's nOt a MaTriaRcHy," but I will not let you get away vwith this.

The answer is simple; The West.

Once women were recognized as individuals and given equal oppurtunity to pursue their happiness and live their own life, creation, wealth, innovation and production shot through roof.

It is not a coincidence that the freest countries are the superior ones to live in.

The pill made it even better.

 

[Trickster]

If you need someone to tell you what a woman is, you’re the one that’s pathetic,

OK Matt Walsh.

The concept was femininity and not woman.

Moron.

 

[Leo123]

OK Matt Walsh.

The concept was femininity and not woman.

Moron.

Who other than women would be feminine?

 

[konradv]

Who other than women would be feminine?

Why do you ask?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

The 19th Amendment has been an unmitigated disaster for the US.

Just look at the worst mostly female union, the NEA, and the damage they have done.

I wish for once someone would explain what the NEA has done, especially to schools that are not affiliated with any unions! They cannot influence curriculum, teaching pedagogy, or almost anything related to actual education. Please indulge me. I really want to know what you think!

 

[Leo123]

You are far too deep into the pseudoscience that is evo-psych and have consumed far too much MGTOW, Red Pill and Incel brainrot to see reality for what it actually is.

Men and women are not as different as you want them to be and the groups are not as homogenous as you want them to be.

You come across as insane. Deluded.

The only thing that stands out in your comment and that deserves a comment is:
Can you name matriarchal societies in which women create, invent, and protect the society? It doesn't exist, because it can't.

Of course you use "matriarchal" here as a comfort blanket to shield you from any counter-arguments with "hAhA nO tHaT's nOt a MaTriaRcHy," but I will not let you get away vwith this.

The answer is simple; The West.

Once women were recognized as individuals and given equal oppurtunity to pursue their happiness and live their own life, creation, wealth, innovation and production shot through roof.

It is not a coincidence that the freest countries are the superior ones to live in.

The pill made it even better.

Human physiology proves you wrong. Men and women are significantly different. That's why a man can't be a female and visa versa. It doesn't matter how you 'feel.' If you are a man and 'feel' like a woman then you are mentally or physically ill and should seek medical attention.

 

[braalian]

Birth rates are falling.

Birth rates are falling because women have the right to vote?

How does that work? They’re so busy voting they don’t have time to ****, or something?

 

[DonGlock26]

And what are your solutions?

Conservatives are good at bishing over the "destructiveness of the left", but never offer anything positive in exchange.

Some people just don't want kids and LGBTQ have rights too, get over it.

Solution to what? The Left's social revolution?

 

[DonGlock26]

Birth rates are falling because women have the right to vote?

How does that work? They’re so busy voting they don’t have time to ****, or something?

Because women are trying to be men.

 

[midcan5]

It figures that a fool with a Trump red hat would post the usual malarkey about women. Hopefully he doesn't have Trump's criminal record too. One wonders if he knows how he got here on earth. Maybe not, dummies believe all sorta nonsense.

 

[DonGlock26]

It figures that a fool with a Trump red hat would post the usual malarkey about women. Hopefully he doesn't have Trump's criminal record too. One wonders if he knows how he got here on earth. Maybe not, dummies believe all sorta nonsense.

No need to be a passive aggressive beta. You can quote me.

We were created.

 

[beagle9]

This is a very interesting and controversial video discussing the decline of the West because largely of the Left's feminism.
I tend to agree. Birth rates are falling. The institution of marriage has become toxic to men due to no fault divorce laws and
the courts almost always awarding custody, child support, and even alimony to the wife. Women, especially young women, usually vote for progressive candidates, This has been disastrous for the West because the Left has been flooding the West with third world migrants to prop up the welfare state and dilute the native Western vote. Will the West survive this mass influx of Muslim migrants? How will women be affected by Sharia Law?

That's a lot on the plate. Hopefully the leftist strong holds will be dismantled by the old guard before President's like Trump are out of office, but here's the thing - A president can become distracted by shiney objects or controversy created for the very purpose of distracting him in hopes for them to survive the final 3 year's.

Trump needs to rely heavily on his cabinet to be independently savvy and well suited for the battles to come.

 

[Trickster]

Human physiology proves you wrong. Men and women are significantly different. That's why a man can't be a female and visa versa. It doesn't matter how you 'feel.' If you are a man and 'feel' like a woman then you are mentally or physically ill and should seek medical attention.

We're not talking about physiology, honey.

 

[Trickster]

Solution to what? The Left's social revolution?

If you want to call it that.