Zone1 Is Feminism Destroying the West?

[initforme]

Women are just as capable of being engineers as men, guy, and physical toil is just not as important as it used to be.





Yes, how dare those women want "power".

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Look, your terminal misogyny aside, you are complaining that women are waiting to start families, without understanding WHY they are waiting to start families, and that has little to do with "Feminism".

It has to do with 50 years of the wealthy dismantling the middle class in this country, where it takes you until your 30s to have the stability to afford kids, and by then, your biological clocks are running out.

Theres nothing wrong with waiting until ones 30s to get married and have kids. Zero.

 

[JoeB131]

Who are you to judge toys based on your gender conceptions?

Is the toy truck that is cool to you not as cool as the doll because of your bias?

You either full of shit or seriously flawed.

Or likely both.

Not really a matter of my conceptions, you just have to look at how they are marketed, from TV shows that are effectively toy commericals to how they are laid out in stores that sell toys. The marketting realizes boys are the primary market.

"It's not a doll, it's an action figure!!!"

 

[JoeB131]

Theres nothing wrong with waiting until ones 30s to get married and have kids. Zero.

Actually, there's a big problem with that. After 35, you have an increased chance of having a child with birth defects because you are scraping the bottom of the ovary.

The real problem is the concept of extended adulthood. For most of history, you were ready to be an adult and make a family in your teens.

Today, we can't get these kids out of the house until they are 26!

Of course, back then people living into their 80s was considered uncommon as well. "50 is the New 30" is a phrase.

 

[OODA_Loop]

Not really a matter of my conceptions, you just have to look at how they are marketed, from TV shows that are effectively toy commericals to how they are laid out in stores that sell toys. The marketting realizes boys are the primary market.

"It's not a doll, it's an action figure!!!"

Wait wut?

Who buys more plush toys which leads market share of sales?

Toys Market Size | Industry Report, 2035

Toys Market size is expected to reach USD 143.43 Billion by 2035, growing at a CAGR of 2.48% during the forecast period 2026-2035

www.businessresearchinsights.com

 

[Sparker]

Blame is easy. Blame feminism. Blame capitalism. Blame socialism. Blame anything that's not too hard to spell.

 

[JoeB131]

Wait wut?

Who buys more plush toys which leads market share of sales?

How long did you search to find a graph that proved whatever you think your point was?

I've been buying Christmas and Birthday presents for my nieces and nephews (and now great-nieces and nephews) for 40 years, and not a one of them has ever asked for a "plush toy".

(Of course, they quickly learned that Uncle Joe will be the one who will buy you books and smart toys, so there's that.)

 

[initforme]

Actually, there's a big problem with that. After 35, you have an increased chance of having a child with birth defects because you are scraping the bottom of the ovary.

The real problem is the concept of extended adulthood. For most of history, you were ready to be an adult and make a family in your teens.

Today, we can't get these kids out of the house until they are 26!

Of course, back then people living into their 80s was considered uncommon as well. "50 is the New 30" is a phrase.

Teens were never designed to have families emotionally. Never has an 18 year old been emotionally ready or mature enough to be a parent and raise a family. They need to get further education or training first in order to support a wife much less kids.

 

[JoeB131]

Teens were never designed to have families emotionally. Never has an 18 year old been emotionally ready or mature enough to be a parent and raise a family. They need to get further education or training first in order to support a wife much less kids.

Yet most of history, that's exactly how it happened.

Usually with marriage following pregnancy.

 

[beagle9]

Who are you to judge toys based on your gender conceptions?

Is the toy truck that is cool to you not as cool as the doll because of your bias?

You either full of shit or seriously flawed.

Or likely both.

He's both...

 

[beagle9]

Teens were never designed to have families emotionally. Never has an 18 year old been emotionally ready or mature enough to be a parent and raise a family. They need to get further education or training first in order to support a wife much less kids.

Not today's teens no, and it's because the generations have been dumbed down severely these day's. My old friend back in the day was 16 when him and his 16 year old bride got married. Yes they had to have parental signatures in order to do it, and they did it. They had one daughter together, and everybody done great for themselves. It was a different time back then, and young people had more grit and determination along with the opportunities than they do these day's.

 

[initforme]

Not today's teens no, and it's because the generations have been dumbed down severely these day's. My old friend back in the day was 16 when him and his 16 year old bride got married. Yes they had to have parental signatures in order to do it, and they did it. They had one daughter together, and everybody done great for themselves. It was a different time back then, and young people had more grit and determination along with the opportunities than they do these day's.

Im an advocate for folk getting married in their 30s since a,marriage has at best a 50/50 shot to survive.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Yet most of history, that's exactly how it happened.

Usually with marriage following pregnancy.

.. and greater happiness

 

[playtime]

let me check ....

nope.

still not.

 

[initforme]

.. and greater happiness

Doubtful...

 

[JoeB131]

.. and greater happiness

Not really. It was actually a pretty miserable experience to be anything but rich in the pre-industrial age.

 

[beagle9]

Im an advocate for folk getting married in their 30s since a,marriage has at best a 50/50 shot to survive.

Putting a time stamp on anything is really sad, and it speaks mountains about the fall this nation has taken over the year's. We can easily look back either through sight or by experiencing loved one's lives being ruined in order for us to see the destruction caused by wrong headed idea's, liberalism, cultural decay, disease, and just plain outright stupidity that could have been avoided if good people wouldn't have just sat back on their aces being complacent and comfortable in their selfish ways and thinking.

However, it's not like people haven't been groomed and brainwashed over the year's, otherwise in which caused the eventual fall due to the huge push over being tolerant of thing's that the good Lord said specifically not to be overly tolerant of. Be tolerant of the sinner yes if trying to change, but there is no where that says the sin has to be tolerated.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Not really. It was actually a pretty miserable experience to be anything but rich in the pre-industrial age.

indeed. Men and women needed one another, and they viewed each other as such.

Feminism disagrees with this positive appreciation.. and it attacks men, says they’ve always had it better than women, that women have been forever oppressed under patriarchy. It divides the sexed.. which is why it has such strong ties to deconstructionism and Marxism.

 

[JoeB131]

indeed. Men and women needed one another, and they viewed each other as such.

Feminism disagrees with this positive appreciation.. and it attacks men, says they’ve always had it better than women, that women have been forever oppressed under patriarchy. It divides the sexed.. which is why it has such strong ties to deconstructionism and Marxism.

Are you arguing women weren't oppressed by the patriarchy?

Shit, they couldn't even vote until 1919. Oh, wait, you probably think that is a bad idea, too.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Are you arguing women weren't oppressed by the patriarchy?

Not like modern feminism portrays. Women could work, own property, and all the other things. Hell, they were free from debt concerns, which is a major privilege that they just gave away. Patriarchy benefits women, because they support the men who build and sustain civilization, as well as their protections and rights.

Shit, they couldn't even vote until 1919.

Guess what genius, almost no men could vote up until around that time either. History ain't your strong suit.

 

[JoeB131]

Not like modern feminism portrays. Women could work, own property, and all the other things. Hell, they were free from debt concerns, which is a major privilege that they just gave away. Patriarchy benefits women, because they support the men who build and sustain civilization, as well as their protections and rights.

Right, they should be all like those women in the Trade Wive Videos?

Women are happy having their own jobs and their own money. Imagine that.

Guess what genius, almost no men could vote up until around that time either. History ain't your strong suit.

Uh, guy, by 1919, you had universal male suffrage.

History isn't your strong suit.