Iran and "To Be Or Not To Be"

[Natural Citizen]

I went from Eilat, Israel, to Petra, Jordan......no soldiers, no checkpoints....and saw this:

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All and dozens more, carved out of stone cliffs.



Can you imagine if the entire Middle East was open like this?

I had a thread about those sorts of structures around here some place some years ago.

They truly are fascinating.

Gosh. Now I'm probably gonna spend some time looking at pictures of that stuff for a while tonight, rather than being on here, now that you piqued my interest in it again.

 

[Ropey]

We need the Abraham Accords.

+2

imho, we’ve mistakenly treated Ishmael as if he were Esau for far too long.

It's a good lesson.

 

[sparky]

imho, Those who use the term Zionism are falling into a narrative game where Zionism is interchanged for Jew in the minds of those who want that degree of separation.

yet so many here have insisted them symbiont and synonymous Ropey ~S~

 

[sparky]

The very religious don't run things.

i would check history on that PC

~S~

 

[CrusaderFrank]

 

[toobfreak]

Iran and "To Be Or Not To Be"​

Look, I'll say it again:

1. It does not matter what Trump "promised" about "MAGA" or "America First," Iran has become an inescapable threat which has forced itself to the front of the line.
2. It does not matter how long they have been a nuclear concern; fact is that they are at 60% enrichment which is way more than needed for commercial power and they have an enrichment facility buried under a mountain for protection.
3. They have made clear their intent to nuke Israel (and the USA) out of existence given their first opportunity.
4. They are threatening to nuke us right now.
5. They are a global terror threat and the force behind Hamas and the attacks on Israel.
6. They've tried to cheat our elections and have tried to assassinate an American president.

Under these circumstances, Trump would be a fool to not use the current momentum in world politics to put a big dent in Iran's plans opening the door for Israel to go in there on mop-up duty.

The Iranian Mullahs are literally begging for the attention while daring the world to stop them.

 

[rightwinger]

I can’t understand why Iran doesn’t just surrender.

Didn’t they watch the parade?

 

[PoliticalChic]

i would check history on that PC

~S~

If they did, would Israel have gay parades?

 

[sparky]

If they did, would Israel have gay parades?

or genocides?

~S~

 

[sparky]

~S~

 

[Ropey]

The very religious don't run things.

We do have influence though, and we are now integrating into mainstream Israeli duties such as poltics and military.

 

[PoliticalChic]

or genocides?

~S~

What a stupid thing to say.

That is equivalent to a blood libel.

Gaza Population 2025​

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https://worldpopulationreview.com › cities › palestine
Gaza Population Growth Between 2000 and 2013 alone, Gaza grew by over 687,000. By 2020, the region will have 2.1 million people.



Stop lying, you fool!

 

[PoliticalChic]

We do have influence though, and we are now integrating into mainstream Israeli duties such as poltics and military.

I saw that with the military.

 

[PoliticalChic]

When one considers what the tiny state of Israel has been able to do in a week against what appeared to be a formidable enemy, iran, I wonder if this should be considered a "miracle."

Does it fit the definition of miracle?
a surprising and welcome event that is not explicable by natural or scientific laws and is therefore considered to be the work of a divine agency.




BTW....on this day, June 19, of 1623, Blaise Pascal born (died August 19, 1662) Mathematician.

Over three hundred years ago King Louis XIV of France asked Blaise Pascal, the great French philosopher of his day, to give him proof of the existence of miracles. Without a moment's hesitation, Pascal answered, "Why, the Jews, your Majesty-the Jews!”

We don't have to speculate what Pascal meant when he gave this answer, because he took the trouble to spell it out. In his masterwork, Pensees, he explained that the fact that the Jewish people had survived until the seventeenth century-the time period in which he lived-was nothing short of a supernatural phenomenon.' - See more at: The Miracle of Jewish History | History News Network

 

[sparky]

That is equivalent to a blood libel.

lol!
what do you think 'river to sea' meant PC?

The Zions are proud of it . But like so many of us pointed out when they started down that road, it's no longer an isolated situation for them...... they're a small country surrounded by Muslim countries

Their 'god' will not permit them to simply sit idly while their people are decimated, the only restraint being the 'great satan' ........the real 'divine agency' you speak of.....

~S~

 

[PoliticalChic]

lol!
what do you think 'river to sea' meant PC?

The Zions are proud of it . But like so many of us pointed out when they started down that road, it's no longer an isolated situation for them...... they're a small country surrounded by Muslim countries

Their 'god' will not permit them to simply sit idly while their people are decimated, the only restraint being the 'great satan' ........the real 'divine agency' you speak of.....

~S~

Who says river to the sea?

Proud of what?

I don't believe you have a clue about what you are talking about.

 

[sparky]

I don't believe you have a clue about what you are talking about.

well, some of us have been talking about it for quite a while PC

so you're denial is duly noted

~S~

 

[PoliticalChic]

well, some of us have been talking about it for quite a while PC

so you're denial is duly noted

~S~

I'm not denying that you are totally clueless.

I'm stating a fact.

 

[Rigby5]

You are a fool, Israel isn't.


AI Overview

No, Israel is not a theocracy. It is officially a parliamentary democracy with a multi-party system. While religion plays a significant role in Israeli society and law, particularly regarding personal status matters like marriage and divorce, the country is not governed by religious leaders or religious law.



Do you ever mind being stupid, or are you simply used to it?


Have you ever been to Israel? Or any nation in the area?




That was a bit harsh, huh?

WRONG!
Israel is the worst theocracy in the world, where a bunch of Polish and Russian refugees of Turkic descent, decided to steal 90% of Palestine, and force a starvation blockade on the Palestinian natives.

The reality is that Israel is the most racist/fascist country in the world, and native Arabs are not allowed to even use the same hospitals, schools, or roads as the Jewish invaders.

 

[Rigby5]

Look, I'll say it again:

1. It does not matter what Trump "promised" about "MAGA" or "America First," Iran has become an inescapable threat which has forced itself to the front of the line.
2. It does not matter how long they have been a nuclear concern; fact is that they are at 60% enrichment which is way more than needed for commercial power and they have an enrichment facility buried under a mountain for protection.
3. They have made clear their intent to nuke Israel (and the USA) out of existence given their first opportunity.
4. They are threatening to nuke us right now.
5. They are a global terror threat and the force behind Hamas and the attacks on Israel.
6. They've tried to cheat our elections and have tried to assassinate an American president.

Under these circumstances, Trump would be a fool to not use the current momentum in world politics to put a big dent in Iran's plans opening the door for Israel to go in there on mop-up duty.

The Iranian Mullahs are literally begging for the attention while daring the world to stop them.

WRONG!

The truth is that "60% enrichment" is EXACTLY what a nuclear reactor needs.
It is NOT "way more than needed for commercial power".

And they have more than a dozen sites, "buried under a mountain for protection", because Israel illegally blew up the Iraqi Osiraq reactor being built by the French in Iraq.

No one has EVER even remotely suggest harming Israel, and it can't be nuked because the 13 million Palestinian natives are all right there in Jerusalem.

Hamas is a legal government and conducted legal retaliation.

Never has Iran ever been accused of trying to cheat our elections or assassinate anyone.