Interesting Tidbit On Student Loan Forgiveness

Commie bullshit. Employers pay when they hire these people. That's why they make more than minimum wage. Their only investment is in themselves.

That's all people need to live a decent life when they work full-time. They need "more than minimum wage". Not $7.25 hourly but how about, ten bucks? Self-driving trucks are coming, within the next 10 to 15 years, capitalists won't need truck drivers.



They want to give us "UBI".​
 
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Designed for small business owners to stay in business and their employees to keep their jobs.
Dumb ass.


The capitalists will hire humans as long as it is efficient and cost-effective. Human labor is one of the most costly elements of a capitalist's overhead. Robots work 24/7, faster, and better, without all of the liability and bullshit that comes with hiring humans. Why would anyone in their right mind opt to hire human labor when they can automate production?
 
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We really need a list of majors that qualify for government subsidized loans. Why should taxpayers have to help pay for someone’s Ethnic Studies major, which will lead them to a job at Starbucks?
 
And how is it the Republicans’ fault that college students major in Ethnic Studies or Gender Studies, and then can’t get a job afterward?
They want the "prestige" of having a degree. Any degree. And the less actual work involved, the better. And then expect to get paid like a boss. They are losers in the game of life, and cannot compete against their peers. So they want the natural order known as "The Game of Life", sabotaged against their betters.
 
The capitalists will hire humans as long as it is efficient and cost-effective. Human labor is one of the most costly elements of a capitalist's overhead. Robots work 24/7, faster, and better, without all of the liability or bullshit that comes with hiring humans. Why would anyone in their right mind opt to hire human labor when they can automate production?
And this is relevant to my comment how?
 
Designed for small business owners to stay in business and their employees to keep their jobs.
Dumb ass.

MAGAT politicians ...
Whatever the claim it was designed by MAGAT politicians to benefit MAGAT politicians.

And while MAGATS complain about student loans not a one of them has tried to pay back their PPP loans

AND

Several have gone to jail over their PPP loans.
 
They want the "prestige" of having a degree. Any degree. And these actual work involved, t b e better. And then expect to get paid like a boss. They are losers in the game of life, and cannot compete against their peers. So they want the natural order known as "The Game of Life", sabotaged against their betters.
Yes, and we see it demonstrated on this forum every day….leftists berating business owners (who provide jobs) while defending welfare recipients (who won’t get a job).

The entire problem with the leftists is that they berate achievement and defend failures.
 
MAGAT politicians ...
Whatever the claim it was designed by MAGAT politicians to benefit MAGAT politicians.

And while MAGATS complain about student loans not a one of them has tried to pay back their PPP loans

AND

Several have gone to jail over their PPP loans.
Paid mine off just fine. The fact that you think it's near impossible shows that not only do you make bad decisions... It clearly demonstrates that you are a bad investment.
 
And how is it the Republicans’ fault that college students major in Ethnic Studies or Gender Studies, and then can’t get a job afterward?

Sure, there are idiots that majored in underwater basketweaving and "gender studies", but a significant % of that student loan debt represents majors like medicine, nursing, biology, engineering, law..etc. It's not all basketweaving. These people can get a job, but they're still burdened with a 300K debt. People in their 20s, with huge student debts.

These people are our doctors, nurses, scientists, engineers..etc. Let them also own a home (the average home today costs about 300K) and have a piece of the pie, of the American Dream. Don't burden them with a huge debt when they're building their careers, in their 20s, or early 30s. They're already going to serve society, offering their expertise to the market, allowing these old retired fogies who are complaining about student debt relief to have products and services to purchase with their pensions. These young people of working age, are our future and the ones MAKING AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, allowing America to effectively compete with China, Russia, and other countries.

We're going to get our ass kicked by China if we don't take care of our American workforce.
 
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Sure, there are idiots that majored in underwater basketweaving and "gender studies", but a significant % of that student loan debt represents majors like medicine, nursing, biology, engineering, law..etc. It's not all basketweaving. These people can get a job, but they're still burdened with a 300K debt. People in their 20s, with huge student debts.

These people are our doctors, nurses, scientists, engineers..etc. Let them also own a home (the average home today costs about 300K) and have a piece of the pie, of the American Dream. Don't burden them with a huge debt when they're building their careers, in their 20s, or early 30s. They're already going to serve society, offer their expertise to the market, and allow these old fogies who are complaining about student debt relief to have products and services to purchase with their pensions. These young people of working age, are our future and the ones MAKING AMERICA GREAT AGAIN and allowing America to effectively compete with China, Russia, and other countries.
First, the average loan debt is about $30k - the same as a car loan. I don’t hear people crying about the “burden“ of a car payment.

The ones with debt of $300k are the ones who went to prestigious law and med school - and they can get income-calculated payments for their early years.

I know two people who went to prestigious law schools and DID graduate with hundreds of thousands of debt - but they saw that as a wide investment in their future earnings. Both were earning $300,000 a year while still in their 20s, and both made junior partner in their 30s. They each now earn close to $1 million and year, and live in mansions.

So cry me a River. The only ones “burdened” with high student loan debt are those positioned to earn well into the mid-six figures, or more.
 
First, the average loan debt is about $30k - the same as a car loan. I don’t hear people crying about the “burden“ of a car payment.

The ones with debt of $300k are the ones who went to prestigious law and med school - and they can get income-calculated payments for their early years.

I know two people who went to prestigious law schools and DID graduate with hundreds of thousands of debt - but they saw that as a wide investment in their future earnings. Both were earning $300,000 a year while still in their 20s, and both made junior partner in their 30s. They each now earn close to $1 million and year, and live in mansions.

So cry me a River. The only ones “burdened” with high student loan debt are those positioned to earn well into the mid-six figures, or more.

They shouldn't even have that student debt. The ones who owe 30K, are the ones who can't find a job in the field they studied and need relief. I have to admit I am biased towards relieving people of working age of their debts, especially debts for something that should be free of charge. That a civilized, modern society is obligated to give to its members. These people are our workforce, the ones who produce everything that we buy and consume. If you hurt them, you pretty much ensure socialism, sooner than it would've happened if you otherwise, took some measures to relieve their debts and other unnecessary burdens. Let them produce and have the resources to live a decent life or we will become 100% socialist/communist, too soon.

I'm a communist, but I prefer a gradual, peaceful transition. Socialism is inevitable, due to advanced automation and artificial intelligence. But it doesn't have to be done overnight or violently through a civil war or coup. There can be a peaceful transition that takes several decades, maybe even fifty years, rather than happening in the next twenty or even ten years. You're pushing society into socialism, too quickly with your right-wing, anti-worker policies. I say this as a communist. You would think a communist would want society to adopt a non-profit system of production overnight, but no. Not a thoughtful communist. We like Marx and others, prefer a peaceful transition, where no one gets hurt.
 
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Paid mine off just fine. The fact that you think it's near impossible shows that not only do you make bad decisions... It clearly demonstrates that you are a bad investment.
Paid of your government handout PPP loan?
Paid off your government handout college loans?

I didn't use loans for my degrees. I worked full time while going to college full time.
As opposed to a gubmint leach needing gubmint handouts to get along.
 
Paid of your government handout PPP loan?
Paid off your government handout college loans?

I didn't use loans for my degrees. I worked full time while going to college full time.
As opposed to a gubmint leach needing gubmint handouts to get along.
When was that? Be truthful.
 
Paid of your government handout PPP loan?
Paid off your government handout college loans?

I didn't use loans for my degrees. I worked full time while going to college full time.
As opposed to a gubmint leach needing gubmint handouts to get along.
Bank loans, personal loans, all loans I've ever taken, I've paid back. I don't whine about self inflicted debt, then beg for freebies. Only losers do that.
 
They shouldn't even have that student debt. The ones who owe 30K, are the ones who can't find a job in the field they studied and need relief. I have to admit I am biased towards relieving people of working age of their debts, especially debts for something that should be free of charge. That a civilized, modern society is obligated to give to its members. These people are our workforce, the ones who produce everything that we buy and consume. If you hurt them, you pretty much ensure socialism, sooner than it would've happened if you otherwise, took some measures to relieve their debts and other unnecessary burdens. Let them produce and have the resources to live a decent life or we will become 100% socialist/communist.

I'm a communist, but I prefer a gradual, peaceful transition. Socialism is inevitable, due to advanced automation and artificial intelligence. But it doesn't have to be done overnight or violently through a civil war or coup. There can be a peaceful transition that takes several decades, maybe even fifty years, rather than happening in the next twenty or even ten years. You're pushing society into socialism, too quickly with your right-wing, anti-worker policies. I say this as a communist. You would think a communist would want society to adopt a non-profit system of production overnight, but no. Not a thoughtful communist. We like Marx and others, prefer a peaceful transition, where no one gets hurt.
They ALREADY have a way to make it easier to make payments on their loans in the early years when their income hasn’t taken off: payments tied to income. Then, when these highly educated doctors and lawyers are pulling in hundreds of thousands of dollars a year, they can step it up and fulfill their obligation.

And your threat that we need to “pay off their debts” or we’ll become communist/socialist is the very thing that WILL turn us that way: the idea that working call people have to absorb the debts of college educated professionals.

Otherwise, why stop there? Why not pay off young people’s car loans? Why not pay off a good portion of their rent? What a great way to discourage young people from working hard and moving up the ladder.
 
Bank loans, personal loans, all loans I've ever taken, I've paid back. I don't whine about self inflicted debt, then beg for freebies. Only losers do that.

Society should educate everyone tuition-free because those people are the ones who will produce everything for society. Education is like defense. We spend hundreds of billions of dollars yearly on the military. It would cost maybe, at most, 200 billion to educate everyone in America from preschool to Ph.D. Education, including vocational job training, is vital to our national infrastructure and security. Without it, we don't have a country. Just like without the military or law enforcement, we don't have a society, we would collapse into chaos. Education is that important.
 
Bank loans, personal loans, all loans I've ever taken, I've paid back. I don't whine about self inflicted debt, then beg for freebies. Only losers do that.
You mean like the list of MAGAT politicians I provided?
 

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