Intelligent, Respectful Political Discourse, RIP

[kaz]

Yikes, stumbled on to this discussion between two guys from opposite ends of the political spectrum, William F. Buckley and Noam Chomsky.

Intelligent, respectful, stimulating, thoughtful disagreement.

So what happened to us? Aside from, "it's all the other tribe's fault"?

Civility during political discourse was about completely obliterated when one of the most popular leaders of one party (a lawyer) decided he was above the laws against purjury, then lied under oath and his fucktarded minions went out of their way to justify the crime.

It was well before that. Democrats were calling Republicans racist back in the Reagan administration, which is as far back as I remember. There is no civility or conversation when they're calling us racists. That ends civil discussion and conversation.

Mac1958 is full of shit. Of course he won't blame Democrats, but they have done it for 40 years that I remember. Of course he doesn't remember it, he only notices when Republicans do it back

I do love shoving the words of nutters back down their throats.

Just do a simple of search of my many squabbles with the Regressive Left and PC and you'll find this: Search results for query: regressive left pc

I also love the way you folks feel you have to lie about me. That's all you have. Nice.

It really would be much smarter for you not to say ANYTHING.

Yikes, stumbled on to this discussion between two guys from opposite ends of the political spectrum, William F. Buckley and Noam Chomsky.

Intelligent, respectful, stimulating, thoughtful disagreement.

So what happened to us? Aside from, "it's all the other tribe's fault"?

Civility during political discourse was about completely obliterated when one of the most popular leaders of one party (a lawyer) decided he was above the laws against purjury, then lied under oath and his fucktarded minions went out of their way to justify the crime.

It was well before that. Democrats were calling Republicans racist back in the Reagan administration, which is as far back as I remember. There is no civility or conversation when they're calling us racists. That ends civil discussion and conversation.

Mac1958 is full of shit. Of course he won't blame Democrats, but they have done it for 40 years that I remember. Of course he doesn't remember it, he only notices when Republicans do it back

I do love shoving the words of nutters back down their throats.

Just do a simple of search of my many squabbles with the Regressive Left and PC and you'll find this: Search results for query: regressive left pc

I also love the way you folks feel you have to lie about me. That's all you have. Nice.

It really would be much smarter for you not to say ANYTHING.

The first one I opened was only you saying "regressive left" in the chain, but the post was you criticizing a conservative. LOL

 

[WelfareQueen]

I realize now this thread is not about civil discourse. It is a Mac & Cheese attention whoring thread. Ultimately, he makes these threads all about his favorite subject....himself.

He kisses the ass of the lefties because they give him more attention, but then when the righties call him a hypocrite (because he is) he will use a phrase like "regressive left" and attempt to reference some post he made six years ago.

Oh well....Enjoy the attention whoring....

 

[BrokeLoser]

Yikes, stumbled on to this discussion between two guys from opposite ends of the political spectrum, William F. Buckley and Noam Chomsky.

Intelligent, respectful, stimulating, thoughtful disagreement.

So what happened to us? Aside from, "it's all the other tribe's fault"?

Isn’t it quite retarded to expect political discussions to stay polite and civil?

I mean come on scared people...Do they ever stay polite and civil? Don’t you crazy loons with foolish expectations watch any political television, attend events, engage with friends and family? Face it scared people....IT ISN’T FUCKING POSSIBLE!

www.usmessageboard.com

There was a time when only the smallest of things separated the duopoly...NOW, one party aims to preserve all things AMERICAN while the other seeks to destroy those very things. There can be no civil discourse with such a dynamic...Let it go and embrace the divide. Simple shit really.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

The ironic thing about Mac is he'd like a party that is economically conservative and socially liberal

That's what libertarian is, and Mac is no libertarian

Libertarians can't even agree on who/what they are.

 

[dannyboys]

It's down right anusing how Mac

Are you actually thinking that your continuous mocking of other posters is convincing anybody that you seek respectful debate?

I don't expect respectful or honest or reasonable debate here any more. Those days are over.

It's much easier and far more interesting in real life, where it matters, and that's what I'm talking about.

So then why not fuck off? B/c you enjoy getting into circular arguments. In many cases arguments you start just to get your empty day in. You're pathetic. Permanent ignore bitch.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

I realize now this thread is not about civil discourse. It is a Mac & Cheese attention whoring thread. Ultimately, he makes these threads all about his favorite subject....himself.

He kisses the ass of the lefties because they give him more attention, but then when the righties call him a hypocrite (because he is) he will use a phrase like "regressive left" and attempt to reference some post he made six years ago.

Oh well....Enjoy the attention whoring....

I do. The goal is usually met pretty quickly. The ignorant practically jump up to self identify. It's getting a bit repetitive and frankly boring in the fish in a barrel that USMB has become.

 

[kaz]

The ironic thing about Mac is he'd like a party that is economically conservative and socially liberal

That's what libertarian is, and Mac is no libertarian

Libertarians can't even agree on who/what they are.

OK

 

[BrokeLoser]

I realize now this thread is not about civil discourse. It is a Mac & Cheese attention whoring thread. Ultimately, he makes these threads all about his favorite subject....himself.

He kisses the ass of the lefties because they give him more attention, but then when the righties call him a hypocrite (because he is) he will use a phrase like "regressive left" and attempt to reference some post he made six years ago.

Oh well....Enjoy the attention whoring....

I do. The goal is usually met pretty quickly. The ignorant practically jump up to self identify. It's getting a bit repetitive and frankly boring in the fish in a barrel that USMB has become.

“The ignorant”?
Would that be those who aren’t as confused and twisted as Mac?
Those whom seek to preserve and protect the American Way at all costs?
Those whom refuse to allow this once great nation to be hijacked by wetbacks, weirdos, criminals and socialists?

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

I realize now this thread is not about civil discourse. It is a Mac & Cheese attention whoring thread. Ultimately, he makes these threads all about his favorite subject....himself.

He kisses the ass of the lefties because they give him more attention, but then when the righties call him a hypocrite (because he is) he will use a phrase like "regressive left" and attempt to reference some post he made six years ago.

Oh well....Enjoy the attention whoring....

I do. The goal is usually met pretty quickly. The ignorant practically jump up to self identify. It's getting a bit repetitive and frankly boring in the fish in a barrel that USMB has become.

“The ignorant”?
Would that be those who aren’t as confused and twisted as Mac?
Those whom seek to preserve and protect the American Way at all costs?
Those whom refuse to allow this once great nation to be hijacked by wetbacks, weirdos, criminals and socialists?

Bigotry is a by product of ignorance. I don't expect you to understand.

 

[Oddball]

There used to be a fellow around here called Mac1958 who showed promise by way of understanding this, but then he caught the TDS virus and turned all woke. I miss the days when this fellow talked about the way the left assigns various identities to classes of either oppressor or oppressed and then reacted to these assumptions accordingly. Nowadays, he is one of the chief practitioners of this very process.

I've tried to impress that very same thing on him many times... he's denied it.

I have as well. Mac and I had many discussions, most worthwhile and useful. That person is gone. He denies it, but TDS has erased all rationality. Now he is one of the worst marginalized hacks on the board.

And Mac, I breathlessly await your thanks or funny to this post.

No shit...He piously decries "wingers" while having thrown in with the very worst of them.

Once again giving evidence to my oft made observation that self-awareness is completely absent from the left.

If only you understood irony. You rat people became exactly like the 'leftists'. Completely lacking self awareness. Too afraid to call out those of your own tribe. Exactly the same. Different sides of the same shit pile.

I'm an anarcho-capitalist/agorist, dumbfuck....I pretty much don't have a tribe,

But thanks for helping to demonstrate my point.

My, how woke and hip you are.

There used to be a fellow around here called Mac1958 who showed promise by way of understanding this, but then he caught the TDS virus and turned all woke. I miss the days when this fellow talked about the way the left assigns various identities to classes of either oppressor or oppressed and then reacted to these assumptions accordingly. Nowadays, he is one of the chief practitioners of this very process.

I've tried to impress that very same thing on him many times... he's denied it.

I have as well. Mac and I had many discussions, most worthwhile and useful. That person is gone. He denies it, but TDS has erased all rationality. Now he is one of the worst marginalized hacks on the board.

And Mac, I breathlessly await your thanks or funny to this post.

No shit...He piously decries "wingers" while having thrown in with the very worst of them.

Once again giving evidence to my oft made observation that self-awareness is completely absent from the left.

If only you understood irony. You rat people became exactly like the 'leftists'. Completely lacking self awareness. Too afraid to call out those of your own tribe. Exactly the same. Different sides of the same shit pile.

I'm an anarcho-capitalist/agorist, dumbfuck....I pretty much don't have a tribe,

But thanks for helping to demonstrate my point.

Is that a tedious woke and hip way to say 'I'm a right wing asshole that doesn't vote but can't fully commit to libertarianism'? Way to make a stand, sport. Probably best to let the memes define you instead. Americans like you are useless as tits on a bull to the political environment.

Want something less "hip and tedious"?.....Go fuck yourself, state worshiping cocksucker.

 

[Oddball]

25th Amendment again....Boy you fucktards never cease to make me LMAO!

It's there for EXACTLY this reason.

The problem is, of course, that the conservative movement has become so nihilistic, that it's not even about accomplishing anything anymore.

You're such a goddamn idiot that words cannot even capture.

 

[Mac1958]

I realize now this thread is not about civil discourse. It is a Mac & Cheese attention whoring thread. Ultimately, he makes these threads all about his favorite subject....himself.

He kisses the ass of the lefties because they give him more attention, but then when the righties call him a hypocrite (because he is) he will use a phrase like "regressive left" and attempt to reference some post he made six years ago.

Oh well....Enjoy the attention whoring....

I do. The goal is usually met pretty quickly. The ignorant practically jump up to self identify. It's getting a bit repetitive and frankly boring in the fish in a barrel that USMB has become.

As I always say, I just toss the softballs up in the air and they whack 'em over the fence for me.

It will be interesting for me if Biden wins and I criticize him/them. We'll see the Regressives here saying that I'm actually a right winger. "I knew it all along!"

It does get a little boring, though. Virtually zero intellectual elasticity.

 

[Oddball]

Bigotry is a by product of ignorance. I don't expect you to understand.

And you have the nerve to accuse others of having a blind spot for irony!

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

There used to be a fellow around here called Mac1958 who showed promise by way of understanding this, but then he caught the TDS virus and turned all woke. I miss the days when this fellow talked about the way the left assigns various identities to classes of either oppressor or oppressed and then reacted to these assumptions accordingly. Nowadays, he is one of the chief practitioners of this very process.

I've tried to impress that very same thing on him many times... he's denied it.

I have as well. Mac and I had many discussions, most worthwhile and useful. That person is gone. He denies it, but TDS has erased all rationality. Now he is one of the worst marginalized hacks on the board.

And Mac, I breathlessly await your thanks or funny to this post.

No shit...He piously decries "wingers" while having thrown in with the very worst of them.

Once again giving evidence to my oft made observation that self-awareness is completely absent from the left.

If only you understood irony. You rat people became exactly like the 'leftists'. Completely lacking self awareness. Too afraid to call out those of your own tribe. Exactly the same. Different sides of the same shit pile.

I'm an anarcho-capitalist/agorist, dumbfuck....I pretty much don't have a tribe,

But thanks for helping to demonstrate my point.

My, how woke and hip you are.

There used to be a fellow around here called Mac1958 who showed promise by way of understanding this, but then he caught the TDS virus and turned all woke. I miss the days when this fellow talked about the way the left assigns various identities to classes of either oppressor or oppressed and then reacted to these assumptions accordingly. Nowadays, he is one of the chief practitioners of this very process.

I've tried to impress that very same thing on him many times... he's denied it.

I have as well. Mac and I had many discussions, most worthwhile and useful. That person is gone. He denies it, but TDS has erased all rationality. Now he is one of the worst marginalized hacks on the board.

And Mac, I breathlessly await your thanks or funny to this post.

No shit...He piously decries "wingers" while having thrown in with the very worst of them.

Once again giving evidence to my oft made observation that self-awareness is completely absent from the left.

If only you understood irony. You rat people became exactly like the 'leftists'. Completely lacking self awareness. Too afraid to call out those of your own tribe. Exactly the same. Different sides of the same shit pile.

I'm an anarcho-capitalist/agorist, dumbfuck....I pretty much don't have a tribe,

But thanks for helping to demonstrate my point.

Is that a tedious woke and hip way to say 'I'm a right wing asshole that doesn't vote but can't fully commit to libertarianism'? Way to make a stand, sport. Probably best to let the memes define you instead. Americans like you are useless as tits on a bull to the political environment.

Want something less "hip and tedious"?.....Go fuck yourself, state worshiping cocksucker.

At least it's an ethos, dude...

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

Bigotry is a by product of ignorance. I don't expect you to understand.

And you have the nerve to accuse others of having a blind spot for irony!

I do. Don't like it? Tough shit.

 

[Oddball]

There used to be a fellow around here called Mac1958 who showed promise by way of understanding this, but then he caught the TDS virus and turned all woke. I miss the days when this fellow talked about the way the left assigns various identities to classes of either oppressor or oppressed and then reacted to these assumptions accordingly. Nowadays, he is one of the chief practitioners of this very process.

I've tried to impress that very same thing on him many times... he's denied it.

I have as well. Mac and I had many discussions, most worthwhile and useful. That person is gone. He denies it, but TDS has erased all rationality. Now he is one of the worst marginalized hacks on the board.

And Mac, I breathlessly await your thanks or funny to this post.

No shit...He piously decries "wingers" while having thrown in with the very worst of them.

Once again giving evidence to my oft made observation that self-awareness is completely absent from the left.

If only you understood irony. You rat people became exactly like the 'leftists'. Completely lacking self awareness. Too afraid to call out those of your own tribe. Exactly the same. Different sides of the same shit pile.

I'm an anarcho-capitalist/agorist, dumbfuck....I pretty much don't have a tribe,

But thanks for helping to demonstrate my point.

My, how woke and hip you are.

There used to be a fellow around here called Mac1958 who showed promise by way of understanding this, but then he caught the TDS virus and turned all woke. I miss the days when this fellow talked about the way the left assigns various identities to classes of either oppressor or oppressed and then reacted to these assumptions accordingly. Nowadays, he is one of the chief practitioners of this very process.

I've tried to impress that very same thing on him many times... he's denied it.

I have as well. Mac and I had many discussions, most worthwhile and useful. That person is gone. He denies it, but TDS has erased all rationality. Now he is one of the worst marginalized hacks on the board.

And Mac, I breathlessly await your thanks or funny to this post.

No shit...He piously decries "wingers" while having thrown in with the very worst of them.

Once again giving evidence to my oft made observation that self-awareness is completely absent from the left.

If only you understood irony. You rat people became exactly like the 'leftists'. Completely lacking self awareness. Too afraid to call out those of your own tribe. Exactly the same. Different sides of the same shit pile.

I'm an anarcho-capitalist/agorist, dumbfuck....I pretty much don't have a tribe,

But thanks for helping to demonstrate my point.

Is that a tedious woke and hip way to say 'I'm a right wing asshole that doesn't vote but can't fully commit to libertarianism'? Way to make a stand, sport. Probably best to let the memes define you instead. Americans like you are useless as tits on a bull to the political environment.

Want something less "hip and tedious"?.....Go fuck yourself, state worshiping cocksucker.

At least it's an ethos, dude...

Agorists and ancaps are beyond libertarianism, jackass.

And you have the stones to accuse others of bigotry and ignorance....So....

 

[Oddball]

Bigotry is a by product of ignorance. I don't expect you to understand.

And you have the nerve to accuse others of having a blind spot for irony!

I do. Don't like it? Tough shit.

Didn't say I don't like it...I'm saying that you've once again demonstrated evidence to support my claim that leftists are completely devoid of self-awareness.

Outstanding job, Corky.

 

[BrokeLoser]

I realize now this thread is not about civil discourse. It is a Mac & Cheese attention whoring thread. Ultimately, he makes these threads all about his favorite subject....himself.

He kisses the ass of the lefties because they give him more attention, but then when the righties call him a hypocrite (because he is) he will use a phrase like "regressive left" and attempt to reference some post he made six years ago.

Oh well....Enjoy the attention whoring....

I do. The goal is usually met pretty quickly. The ignorant practically jump up to self identify. It's getting a bit repetitive and frankly boring in the fish in a barrel that USMB has become.

“The ignorant”?
Would that be those who aren’t as confused and twisted as Mac?
Those whom seek to preserve and protect the American Way at all costs?
Those whom refuse to allow this once great nation to be hijacked by wetbacks, weirdos, criminals and socialists?

Bigotry is a by product of ignorance. I don't expect you to understand.

Thank you, I take great pride in my bigotry.
You see, those whom expect fellow Americans to meet a standard, the American standard are BIGOTS....Those incapable of meeting the American standard will always cry bigot. Weird huh?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

I realize now this thread is not about civil discourse. It is a Mac & Cheese attention whoring thread. Ultimately, he makes these threads all about his favorite subject....himself.

He kisses the ass of the lefties because they give him more attention, but then when the righties call him a hypocrite (because he is) he will use a phrase like "regressive left" and attempt to reference some post he made six years ago.

Oh well....Enjoy the attention whoring....

I do. The goal is usually met pretty quickly. The ignorant practically jump up to self identify. It's getting a bit repetitive and frankly boring in the fish in a barrel that USMB has become.

As I always say, I just toss the softballs up in the air and they whack 'em over the fence for me.

It will be interesting for me if Biden wins and I criticize him/them. We'll see the Regressives here saying that I'm actually a right winger. "I knew it all along!"

It does get a little boring, though. Virtually zero intellectual elasticity.

You won't criticize him. You're posturing.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

There used to be a fellow around here called Mac1958 who showed promise by way of understanding this, but then he caught the TDS virus and turned all woke. I miss the days when this fellow talked about the way the left assigns various identities to classes of either oppressor or oppressed and then reacted to these assumptions accordingly. Nowadays, he is one of the chief practitioners of this very process.

I've tried to impress that very same thing on him many times... he's denied it.

I have as well. Mac and I had many discussions, most worthwhile and useful. That person is gone. He denies it, but TDS has erased all rationality. Now he is one of the worst marginalized hacks on the board.

And Mac, I breathlessly await your thanks or funny to this post.

No shit...He piously decries "wingers" while having thrown in with the very worst of them.

Once again giving evidence to my oft made observation that self-awareness is completely absent from the left.

If only you understood irony. You rat people became exactly like the 'leftists'. Completely lacking self awareness. Too afraid to call out those of your own tribe. Exactly the same. Different sides of the same shit pile.

I'm an anarcho-capitalist/agorist, dumbfuck....I pretty much don't have a tribe,

But thanks for helping to demonstrate my point.

My, how woke and hip you are.

There used to be a fellow around here called Mac1958 who showed promise by way of understanding this, but then he caught the TDS virus and turned all woke. I miss the days when this fellow talked about the way the left assigns various identities to classes of either oppressor or oppressed and then reacted to these assumptions accordingly. Nowadays, he is one of the chief practitioners of this very process.

I've tried to impress that very same thing on him many times... he's denied it.

I have as well. Mac and I had many discussions, most worthwhile and useful. That person is gone. He denies it, but TDS has erased all rationality. Now he is one of the worst marginalized hacks on the board.

And Mac, I breathlessly await your thanks or funny to this post.

No shit...He piously decries "wingers" while having thrown in with the very worst of them.

Once again giving evidence to my oft made observation that self-awareness is completely absent from the left.

If only you understood irony. You rat people became exactly like the 'leftists'. Completely lacking self awareness. Too afraid to call out those of your own tribe. Exactly the same. Different sides of the same shit pile.

I'm an anarcho-capitalist/agorist, dumbfuck....I pretty much don't have a tribe,

But thanks for helping to demonstrate my point.

Is that a tedious woke and hip way to say 'I'm a right wing asshole that doesn't vote but can't fully commit to libertarianism'? Way to make a stand, sport. Probably best to let the memes define you instead. Americans like you are useless as tits on a bull to the political environment.

Want something less "hip and tedious"?.....Go fuck yourself, state worshiping cocksucker.

At least it's an ethos, dude...

Agorists and ancaps are beyond libertarianism, jackass.

And you have the stones to accuse others of bigotry and ignorance....So....

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Yawn. Sounds like every confused libertarian dip shit I've ever met. Useless as tits on a bull. Spark up another blunt and contemplate your 'anarch-capitalism', dude.