Inspectors General Refuse Trumps Illegal Firing Order

And you keep harping a moot point. Trump Won. Partly because of this and other witch hunts.

But by all means try it again.
Yep. You’re avoiding reality.

Trump won because you delusional morons were successfully convinced of lies.

Unsurprisingly, you don’t want anyone to point this out. It’s bad for your ego.
 
Yep. You’re avoiding reality.

Trump won because you delusional morons were successfully convinced of lies.

Unsurprisingly, you don’t want anyone to point this out. It’s bad for your ego.

Only in your TDS SJW addled head. The prime example of a hack is someone who can't see the other side for what it is.

That's you, not me.
 
Only in your TDS SJW addled head. The prime example of a hack is someone who can't see the other side for what it is.

That's you, not me.
Your side is intellectually bankrupt, and as proof is your complete inability to argue any of your points with any substantive rationale. You just say whatever you want to be true.
 
Your side is intellectually bankrupt, and as proof is your complete inability to argue any of your points with any substantive rationale. You just say whatever you want to be true.

Standard progspeak from a standard prog.

Once again, bring this shit to Zone 1 and see how long you last.
 
Your side is intellectually bankrupt, and as proof is your complete inability to argue any of your points with any substantive rationale. You just say whatever you want to be true.
Dude. Are you getting paid by the post?

We get it. For whatever reasons, you hate Trump.

You just sound angry that not everybody hates him, and you can't talk them into hating him.
 
Standard progspeak from a standard prog.

Once again, bring this shit to Zone 1 and see how long you last.
Same old shit. You refuse to discuss the points and just whine and complain.
 
There is already precedent to impeach President Trump for his illegal attempted dismissal of Inspectors General. The House of Representatives in 1868 impeached President Andrew Johnson for a similar offense: dismissing Secretary of War Edwin Stanton in violation of the Tenure of Office Act. Johnson, of course, was not convicted.
 
There is already precedent to impeach President Trump for his illegal attempted dismissal of Inspectors General. The House of Representatives in 1868 impeached President Andrew Johnson for a similar offense: dismissing Secretary of War Edwin Stanton in violation of the Tenure of Office Act. Johnson, of course, was not convicted.
Yo Vern

Barking up the wrong tree

SCOTUS HAS SPOKEN

PRESIDENT TRUMP IS THE CONSTITUTIONAL CHIEF OF THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH

HENCE HE CAN FIRE ANYONE FOR WHATEVER REASON HE DEEMS APPROPIATE


Seila Law LLC v. Consumer Financial Protection Bureau​

Holding: The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau’s leadership by a single director removable only for inefficiency, neglect or malfeasance violates the separation of powers.

Seila Law LLC v. Consumer Financial Protection Bureau - SCOTUSblog

Independent News and Analysis on the U.S. Supreme Court
www.scotusblog.com
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There is already precedent to impeach President Trump for his illegal attempted dismissal of Inspectors General. The House of Representatives in 1868 impeached President Andrew Johnson for a similar offense: dismissing Secretary of War Edwin Stanton in violation of the Tenure of Office Act. Johnson, of course, was not convicted.

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There is already precedent to impeach President Trump for his illegal attempted dismissal of Inspectors General. The House of Representatives in 1868 impeached President Andrew Johnson for a similar offense: dismissing Secretary of War Edwin Stanton in violation of the Tenure of Office Act. Johnson, of course, was not convicted.
Hey stupid, they serve at the pleasure of the President. He can fire them any time, for any reason.
 
There is already precedent to impeach President Trump for his illegal attempted dismissal of Inspectors General. The House of Representatives in 1868 impeached President Andrew Johnson for a similar offense: dismissing Secretary of War Edwin Stanton in violation of the Tenure of Office Act. Johnson, of course, was not convicted.
Third time's the charm, huh?

Any day now. Aaaaaaaany day now.
 
Well, they haven't been doing their jobs, now have they?
What happens to people like that?
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That is not what the law says.
The law specifically says that civil servants are hard to fire, and you have to first charge them and have hearing.
 
Yo Vern

Barking up the wrong tree

SCOTUS HAS SPOKEN

PRESIDENT TRUMP IS THE CONSTITUTIONAL CHIEF OF THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH

HENCE HE CAN FIRE ANYONE FOR WHATEVER REASON HE DEEMS APPROPIATE


Seila Law LLC v. Consumer Financial Protection Bureau​

Holding: The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau’s leadership by a single director removable only for inefficiency, neglect or malfeasance violates the separation of powers.

Seila Law LLC v. Consumer Financial Protection Bureau - SCOTUSblog

Independent News and Analysis on the U.S. Supreme Court
www.scotusblog.com
www.scotusblog.com

That does not apply.
The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau directorship is NOT a protected civil service job like Inspector Generals are.
The law struck down did not say a president can fire anyone for any reason, but the SCOTUS only ruled that the limits the law tried to place were too constricting.
The procedure of requiring charges and a hearing before firing of civil servants, has always been upheld by the SCOTUS.

{...
Firing Inspectors General Begins Trump’s Assault on the Rule of Law
Michael J. Kelly | Creighton University School of Law
January 26, 2025 12:25:21 pm
Edited by: Jaclyn Belczyk | JURIST Executive Director
(The author, a professor at Creighton University School of Law, argues that Trump's firing of over a dozen inspectors general heralds a dangerous period for the rule of law in America...)
After sundown Friday, a new crack appeared in the wall of America’s rule of law. A wall that protected us for two and a half centuries, but that’s showing signs of strain. It is axiomatic that corrupt governments eliminate those responsible for policing corruption. The Friday night massacre of over a dozen inspectors general across the executive branch lays the groundwork for taking over that government from within. The job of an agency or department’s Inspector General is to independently root out corruption, fraud, and abuse in the executive branch and report on such to the legislative branch. They are embedded within these agencies to accomplish this task.
This is a modern adaptation to achieving the checks and balances the Framers of our Constitution intended when they created the federal government. But if the designated watchers aren’t watching, because they’ve been purged by the very abuse of power they were installed to prevent, then the way is open for more abuse and corruption to flow. Absent independent institutional whistleblowers, a significant check on power is now missing.
...}
 
Hey stupid, they serve at the pleasure of the President. He can fire them any time, for any reason.

Wrong.
That is the whole point of the "civil service", to prevent cronyism that allows corruption to be undetected.
It is intentionally very difficult to fire civil servants, and always has been.
 
That does not apply.
The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau directorship is NOT a protected civil service job like Inspector Generals are.
The law struck down did not say a president can fire anyone for any reason, but the SCOTUS only ruled that the limits the law tried to place were too constricting.
The procedure of requiring charges and a hearing before firing of civil servants, has always been upheld by the SCOTUS.

{...
Firing Inspectors General Begins Trump’s Assault on the Rule of Law
Michael J. Kelly | Creighton University School of Law
January 26, 2025 12:25:21 pm
Edited by: Jaclyn Belczyk | JURIST Executive Director
(The author, a professor at Creighton University School of Law, argues that Trump's firing of over a dozen inspectors general heralds a dangerous period for the rule of law in America...)
After sundown Friday, a new crack appeared in the wall of America’s rule of law. A wall that protected us for two and a half centuries, but that’s showing signs of strain. It is axiomatic that corrupt governments eliminate those responsible for policing corruption. The Friday night massacre of over a dozen inspectors general across the executive branch lays the groundwork for taking over that government from within. The job of an agency or department’s Inspector General is to independently root out corruption, fraud, and abuse in the executive branch and report on such to the legislative branch. They are embedded within these agencies to accomplish this task.
This is a modern adaptation to achieving the checks and balances the Framers of our Constitution intended when they created the federal government. But if the designated watchers aren’t watching, because they’ve been purged by the very abuse of power they were installed to prevent, then the way is open for more abuse and corruption to flow. Absent independent institutional whistleblowers, a significant check on power is now missing.
...}
The principle is the same - Congress can not grant rights in the executive branch
 
That does not apply.
The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau directorship is NOT a protected civil service job like Inspector Generals are.
The law struck down did not say a president can fire anyone for any reason, but the SCOTUS only ruled that the limits the law tried to place were too constricting.
The procedure of requiring charges and a hearing before firing of civil servants, has always been upheld by the SCOTUS.

{...
Firing Inspectors General Begins Trump’s Assault on the Rule of Law
Michael J. Kelly | Creighton University School of Law
January 26, 2025 12:25:21 pm
Edited by: Jaclyn Belczyk | JURIST Executive Director
(The author, a professor at Creighton University School of Law, argues that Trump's firing of over a dozen inspectors general heralds a dangerous period for the rule of law in America...)
After sundown Friday, a new crack appeared in the wall of America’s rule of law. A wall that protected us for two and a half centuries, but that’s showing signs of strain. It is axiomatic that corrupt governments eliminate those responsible for policing corruption. The Friday night massacre of over a dozen inspectors general across the executive branch lays the groundwork for taking over that government from within. The job of an agency or department’s Inspector General is to independently root out corruption, fraud, and abuse in the executive branch and report on such to the legislative branch. They are embedded within these agencies to accomplish this task.
This is a modern adaptation to achieving the checks and balances the Framers of our Constitution intended when they created the federal government. But if the designated watchers aren’t watching, because they’ve been purged by the very abuse of power they were installed to prevent, then the way is open for more abuse and corruption to flow. Absent independent institutional whistleblowers, a significant check on power is now missing.
...}

Wrong.
That is the whole point of the "civil service", to prevent cronyism that allows corruption to be undetected.
It is intentionally very difficult to fire civil servants, and always has been.
Reagan did it. Kick rocks.
 
You keep dodging the point.

The point is that no one should be surprised the government prosecuted someone hiding highly classified documents in their basement. The idea that this is all just political defies logic.
But not next to his corvette?
 

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