In Contempt of The People

[Samofvt]

Interesting fact: the power to lawfully hold trials, hold people accountable for their actions, and sentence people to punishments rests with the Judicial Branch of the federal government. Our representatives in congress and the executive branch have never been given this power, but they seem to be taking that action on a more-and-more frequent basis.

Their antics are straight up unconstitutional, and this is not the only power Washington is stealing from the people and abusing.

There were very good reasons the framers of our nation created three equal branches of the government: to maintain a balance of power. At what point will we decide enough is enough? Is it too late to restore balance to our all-powerful Washington? Perhaps dissolution is the only way back to a peaceful, equitable, and prosperous future.

House votes to hold Mark Meadows in contempt of Congress

The House voted to hold Meadows in contempt for refusing to comply with a subpoena from the House January 6 committee.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[mudwhistle]

Interesting fact: the power to lawfully hold trials, hold people accountable for their actions, and sentence people to punishments rests with the Judicial Branch of the federal government. Our representatives in congress and the executive branch have never been given this power, but they seem to be taking that action on a more-and-more frequent basis.

Their antics are straight up unconstitutional, and this is not the only power Washington is stealing from the people and abusing.

There were very good reasons the framers of our nation created three equal branches of the government: to maintain a balance of power. At what point will we decide enough is enough? Is it too late to restore balance to our all-powerful Washington? Perhaps dissolution is the only way back to a peaceful, equitable, and prosperous future.

House votes to hold Mark Meadows in contempt of Congress

The House voted to hold Meadows in contempt for refusing to comply with a subpoena from the House January 6 committee.

www.cbsnews.com

The Democrats are using so-called Republicans to stage yet another hoax.....
Expect them to make Jan 6th the only thing they feel is worthy talking about for the next few months.

 

[JGalt]

Interesting fact: the power to lawfully hold trials, hold people accountable for their actions, and sentence people to punishments rests with the Judicial Branch of the federal government. Our representatives in congress and the executive branch have never been given this power, but they seem to be taking that action on a more-and-more frequent basis.

Their antics are straight up unconstitutional, and this is not the only power Washington is stealing from the people and abusing.

There were very good reasons the framers of our nation created three equal branches of the government: to maintain a balance of power. At what point will we decide enough is enough? Is it too late to restore balance to our all-powerful Washington? Perhaps dissolution is the only way back to a peaceful, equitable, and prosperous future.

House votes to hold Mark Meadows in contempt of Congress

The House voted to hold Meadows in contempt for refusing to comply with a subpoena from the House January 6 committee.

www.cbsnews.com

The founders of his country couldn't predict the possibility that the Judicial branch of the government could become so overloaded that it would fail, as it is doing now. It is barely enforcing the laws on the books, criminals are being set free to roam the streets, and thew DOJ's resources are being re-directed against law-abiding people.

Nor did our Founding Fathers foresee the possibility of a corrupted Executive and Legislative Branches of government taking advantage of a weak and ineffective Judicial Branch, and using their own powers to persecute whomever they found fit.

That's where we're at right now, folks.

 

[night_son]

Interesting fact: the power to lawfully hold trials, hold people accountable for their actions, and sentence people to punishments rests with the Judicial Branch of the federal government. Our representatives in congress and the executive branch have never been given this power, but they seem to be taking that action on a more-and-more frequent basis.

Their antics are straight up unconstitutional, and this is not the only power Washington is stealing from the people and abusing.

There were very good reasons the framers of our nation created three equal branches of the government: to maintain a balance of power. At what point will we decide enough is enough? Is it too late to restore balance to our all-powerful Washington? Perhaps dissolution is the only way back to a peaceful, equitable, and prosperous future.

House votes to hold Mark Meadows in contempt of Congress

The House voted to hold Meadows in contempt for refusing to comply with a subpoena from the House January 6 committee.

www.cbsnews.com

What I want to know is when was the ATF christened lawmaker, judge, jury and executioner? ATF makes laws, enforces them and punishes those who transgress them.

 

[justinacolmena]

What I want to know is when was the ATF christened lawmaker, judge, jury and executioner? ATF makes laws, enforces them and punishes those who transgress them.

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[Crepitus]

Interesting fact: the power to lawfully hold trials, hold people accountable for their actions, and sentence people to punishments rests with the Judicial Branch of the federal government. Our representatives in congress and the executive branch have never been given this power, but they seem to be taking that action on a more-and-more frequent basis.

Their antics are straight up unconstitutional, and this is not the only power Washington is stealing from the people and abusing.

There were very good reasons the framers of our nation created three equal branches of the government: to maintain a balance of power. At what point will we decide enough is enough? Is it too late to restore balance to our all-powerful Washington? Perhaps dissolution is the only way back to a peaceful, equitable, and prosperous future.

House votes to hold Mark Meadows in contempt of Congress

The House voted to hold Meadows in contempt for refusing to comply with a subpoena from the House January 6 committee.

www.cbsnews.com

You do realize that what they're voting on is referring the case to the judicial branch, right?

 

[justinacolmena]

You do realize that what they're voting on is referring the case to the judicial branch, right?

What judicial branch?

 

[Samofvt]

You do realize that what they're voting on is referring the case to the judicial branch, right?

The executive branch is responsible for enforcing the laws of the land. Congress does not enforce the law, nor refer "cases" to the judicial branch.

Furthermore, they are performing a trial, any way you stack it. Again, it is not up to congress to collect evidence nor request evidence, nor publicly defame people who do not comply with their assumed (unconstitutional) requests.

Now, the guy very may well be guilty, I do not know. But it sure looks like the people who make the laws are conducting a trial and handing out sentences of imprisonment and other punishments.

 

[White 6]

Interesting fact: the power to lawfully hold trials, hold people accountable for their actions, and sentence people to punishments rests with the Judicial Branch of the federal government. Our representatives in congress and the executive branch have never been given this power, but they seem to be taking that action on a more-and-more frequent basis.

Their antics are straight up unconstitutional, and this is not the only power Washington is stealing from the people and abusing.

There were very good reasons the framers of our nation created three equal branches of the government: to maintain a balance of power. At what point will we decide enough is enough? Is it too late to restore balance to our all-powerful Washington? Perhaps dissolution is the only way back to a peaceful, equitable, and prosperous future.

House votes to hold Mark Meadows in contempt of Congress

The House voted to hold Meadows in contempt for refusing to comply with a subpoena from the House January 6 committee.

www.cbsnews.com

Well, you nabbed the title right, at least. In Contempt of The People is certainly what the people behind the January 6th attack on The People's house had, as well as those that participated, and now wish to withhold or cover up how they and their group brought it about. Yes, it was contempt for the people to exercise their right to vote, contempt for the constitution, contempt for the rule of law, contempt for peaceful transition of power, contempt for law enforcement, the Vice President, Speaker Pelosi and American society in general. Now, mums the word, by those involved, as they still have contempt for the people, as well as the right and duty of Congress to investigate the depths and organization of this atrocity, perpetrated on the Houses of Congress and the people of the United States. "We're privileged", Executive Privileged, they say. "We don't have to tell you jack shit, because we were over you, above you, beyond you". Looks like having to stand and deliver, facing up in public, for their actions and possible crimes is part of the costs of their failure to squash the government of the people, by the people and for the people. Everyone on team trump took an oath to protect and defend the constitution and broke it for their own political ends. They need to be brought to The People's justice for their actions, so that no other political machine crime mob, contemplates action like this on the people's house for another 250 years.

 

[Crepitus]

What judicial branch?

THE judicial branch. The DOJ.

 

[Crepitus]

The executive branch is responsible for enforcing the laws of the land. Congress does not enforce the law, nor refer "cases" to the judicial branch.

Furthermore, they are performing a trial, any way you stack it. Again, it is not up to congress to collect evidence nor request evidence, nor publicly defame people who do not comply with their assumed (unconstitutional) requests.

Now, the guy very may well be guilty, I do not know. But it sure looks like the people who make the laws are conducting a trial and handing out sentences of imprisonment and other punishments.

You're deliberately misinterpreting what's going on. The house isn't holding a trial, they're holding a vote. They don't get to decide of he's charged or not, that uo to the DOJ. All these can do is report it to them.

 

[Samofvt]

Well, you nabbed the title right, at least. In Contempt of The People is certainly what the people behind the January 6th attack on The People's house had, as well as those that participated, and now wish to withhold or cover up how they and their group brought it about. Yes, it was contempt for the people to exercise their right to vote, contempt for the constitution, contempt for the rule of law, contempt for peaceful transition of power, contempt for law enforcement, the Vice President, Speaker Pelosi and American society in general. Now, mums the word, by those involved, as they still have contempt for the people, as well as the right and duty of Congress to investigate the depths and organization of this atrocity, perpetrated on the Houses of Congress and the people of the United States. "We're privileged", Executive Privileged, they say. "We don't have to tell you jack shit, because we were over you, above you, beyond you". Looks like having to stand and deliver, facing up in public, for their actions and possible crimes is part of the costs of their failure to squash the government of the people, by the people and for the people. Everyone on team trump took an oath to protect and defend the constitution and broke it for their own political ends. They need to be brought to The People's justice for their actions, so that no other political machine crime mob, contemplates action like this on the people's house for another 250 years.

Off topic. Those who broke the law should be held accountable. There is no debate there.

This topic is about the fact that Congress is overstepping it's constitutional limits. Congress does not conduct trials of American Citezens: the judicial branch does. It is the Executive branches responsibility to file the charges and make the arrest, then hold the accused for arraignment before a properly qualified Judge.

 

[Samofvt]

You're deliberately misinterpreting what's going on. The house isn't holding a trial, they're holding a vote. They don't get to decide of he's charged or not, that uo to the DOJ. All these can do is report it to them.

Sorry buddy. Congress is holding a trial, requesting evidence, handing out arrest warrants, and handing out punishments. There is no mistaking it.

These jobs belong to the Executive branch (find evidence and make arrests) and the Judicial branch (interpret what laws have been broken and provide punishments).

If this was for a non-American person, group, or power, then Yes, that would be congresses job because those do not qualify for the same rights afforded by our law of the land. they have no rights on our soil.

In this case, Congress is clearly overstepping its authority, as the accused is an American citizen. Congress appears to be using un-constitutional power to conduct politically motivated business. This is the VERY REASON our founders separated the three branches of government.

 

[White 6]

Off topic. Those who broke the law should be held accountable. There is no debate there.

This topic is about the fact that Congress is overstepping it's constitutional limits. Congress does not conduct trials of American Citezens: the judicial branch does. It is the Executive branches responsibility to file the charges and make the arrest, then hold the accused for arraignment before a properly qualified Judge.

In Anderson v. Dunn (1821),[6] the Supreme Court of the United States held that Congress' power to hold someone in contempt was essential to ensure that Congress was "... not exposed to every indignity and interruption that rudeness, caprice, or even conspiracy, may mediate against it."[6] The historical interpretation that bribery of a senator or representative was considered contempt of Congress has long since been abandoned in favor of criminal statutes. In 1857, Congress enacted a law that made "contempt of Congress" a criminal offense against the United States.[7]

The Supreme Court affirmed in Watkins v. United States (1957) that "[the] power of the Congress to conduct investigations is inherent in the legislative process" and that "[it] is unquestionably the duty of all citizens to cooperate with the Congress in its efforts to obtain the facts needed for intelligent legislative action. It is their unremitting obligation to respond to subpoenas, to respect the dignity of the Congress and its committees and to testify fully with respect to matters within the province of proper investigation."[12] Congressional rules empower all its standing committees with the authority to compel witnesses to produce testimony and documents for subjects under its jurisdiction. Committee rules may provide for the full committee to issue a subpoena, or permit subcommittees or the chairman (acting alone or with the ranking member) to issue subpoenas.

Statutory proceedings​

Following a contempt citation, the presiding officer of the chamber is instructed to refer the matter to the U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia;[20] according to the law it is the duty of the U.S. Attorney to refer the matter to a grand jury for action.

The criminal offense of contempt of Congress sets the penalty at not less than one month nor more than twelve months in jail and a fine of not more than $100,000 or less than $100.[9]

Contempt of Congress - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Try again. Your feelings are just hurt because you support the anti-American, anti-Constitutional scum, that only took one oath, that being to the constitution and like trump himself, could live up to it. Now just trying to scurry back into the the darkness of silence, to escape the light, like cockroaches when the lights come on.

 

[Samofvt]

In Anderson v. Dunn (1821),[6] the Supreme Court of the United States held that Congress' power to hold someone in contempt was essential to ensure that Congress was "... not exposed to every indignity and interruption that rudeness, caprice, or even conspiracy, may mediate against it."[6] The historical interpretation that bribery of a senator or representative was considered contempt of Congress has long since been abandoned in favor of criminal statutes. In 1857, Congress enacted a law that made "contempt of Congress" a criminal offense against the United States.[7]

The Supreme Court affirmed in Watkins v. United States (1957) that "[the] power of the Congress to conduct investigations is inherent in the legislative process" and that "[it] is unquestionably the duty of all citizens to cooperate with the Congress in its efforts to obtain the facts needed for intelligent legislative action. It is their unremitting obligation to respond to subpoenas, to respect the dignity of the Congress and its committees and to testify fully with respect to matters within the province of proper investigation."[12] Congressional rules empower all its standing committees with the authority to compel witnesses to produce testimony and documents for subjects under its jurisdiction. Committee rules may provide for the full committee to issue a subpoena, or permit subcommittees or the chairman (acting alone or with the ranking member) to issue subpoenas.

Statutory proceedings​

Following a contempt citation, the presiding officer of the chamber is instructed to refer the matter to the U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia;[20] according to the law it is the duty of the U.S. Attorney to refer the matter to a grand jury for action.

The criminal offense of contempt of Congress sets the penalty at not less than one month nor more than twelve months in jail and a fine of not more than $100,000 or less than $100.[9]

Contempt of Congress - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Off topic still. Although your citations sound partially relevant, they apply to areas of public concern in the course of deliberation about what laws need to be created.

They do not apply to criminal proceedings, which is what congress is attempting to do.

Or, are you suggesting congress is deliberating about passing some new, retroactive law, designed to entrap their political rivals?

 

[White 6]

Off topic still. Although your citations sound partially relevant, they apply to areas of public concern in the course of deliberation about what laws need to be created.

They do not apply to criminal proceedings, which is what congress is attempting to do.

Or, are you suggesting congress is deliberating about passing some new, retroactive law, designed to entrap their political rivals?

No, no. I am suggesting the January 6th plot, attempted to interrupt the deliberations of congress, and did, in an attempt to change those deliberations with an attack (a destructive and deadly attack) on Congress itself, and Congress has the right and duty to investigate and compel witnesses to testify to what they know of the event and consultations leading up to and while the attack was being carried out, whether they want to or not.

 

[Samofvt]

No, no. I am suggesting the January 6th plot, attempted to interrupt the deliberations of congress, and did, in an attempt to change those deliberations with an attack (a destructive and deadly attack) on Congress itself, and Congress has the right and duty to investigate and compel witnesses to testify to what they know of the event and consultations leading up to and while the attack was being carried out, whether they want to or not.

So you are a conspiracy theorist?

 

[White 6]

So you are a conspiracy theorist?

Not generally, but if it walks like a conspiracy, sounds like a conspiracy, refuses to talk, like a conspiracy, it might be a conspiracy, but maybe with subpoena power, maybe we can get to the bottom of it, to find out if it was indeed a conspiracy, against the constitution transfer of power of the executive branch of the United States. If there is nothing to hide, they should speak. I recognizes as does everyone else, their right to 5th amendment protection from incriminating themself but not the actions or plannings or acts of others.

 

[Samofvt]

Not generally, but if it walks like a conspiracy, sounds like a conspiracy, refuses to talk, like a conspiracy, it might be a conspiracy, but maybe with subpoena power, maybe we can get to the bottom of it, to find out if it was indeed a conspiracy, against the constitution transfer of power of the executive branch of the United States. If there is nothing to hide, they should speak. I recognizes as does everyone else, their right to 5th amendment protection from incriminating themself but not the actions or plannings or acts of others.

Still, it is unconstitutional for congress to conduct an investigation, trial, and sentencing over criminal matters. Congress can only use the powers of subpoena when exercising it's legislative duty.

Any matter of criminal wrong-doing must be turned over to the Executive branch (for arresting and investigating) and the Judicial branch (for interpretation of laws and sentencing).

This is an on-going problem with congress that has been used by both Republicans and Democrats over the past several decades, so don't feel like I'm arguing out of partisanship. I am arguing out of patriotism and the belief that we have a good foundation of government. But the laws of the land need to be heeded by all.

 

[themirrorthief]

The Democrats are using so-called Republicans to stage yet another hoax.....
Expect them to make Jan 6th the only thing they feel is worthy talking about for the next few months.

they can talk about joes chances of living another year