Immigrants pay more in taxes than they receive in benefits from the US government

[struth]

Ask the Cato Institute. A right leaning, libertarian group who focuses on people paying their own way and exposing those who don't.
Fake conservatives do not know about the Cato Institute

Why should we ask them? They didnt post their link here you did.

I guess I really don’t understand the point of the thread at all.

Isn’t this suppose to be what’s happening?

 

[Mac-7]

You are not getting it, Elmer.

Libertarian is very different from conservatives

Libs are for open borders and free trade which is made to order for the chicoms

 

[struth]

The Cato Institute is a A right leaning, libertarian group who focuses on people paying their own way and exposing those who don't. You show your stupidity with every post. Why don't you do some research.

I’m not talking about the CATO institution

They didn’t post their study, you did

 

[ElmerMudd]

Legal immigrants should be paying taxes. Illegal aliens on the other hand cost more than they bring in. Deport all Illegal aliens and the legal immigrants will stay pay more into the system than take out. What was the point of this thread?

You are bullshitting. Read the study. You make stuff up to try and make Trump not look like the idiot he is.

 

[WEATHER53]

Yes legal immigrants who are w-2 employees do that. They amount to 30% of the Hispanics working here. The independent contractor is a dodge along with the paid in cash dodge.
Thread starter is lying again but USMB pays for some of the fake thread title Trump smear inclined

 

[Mac-7]

You think the Cato Institute is fakery.
MAGA has no clue about conservatism and libertarianism. They only know Trumpism which is a cult.
Educate yourself. You are embarrasssing yourself.

Not fake

But they have a very different world view than MAGAs

 

[Billiejeens]

Legal immigrants should be paying taxes. Illegal aliens on the other hand cost more than they bring in. Deport all Illegal aliens and the legal immigrants will stay pay more into the system than take out. What was the point of this thread?

Elmo's stupidity amplified by toxic empathy

 

[ElmerMudd]

Yeah, the reporting immigrant taxpayers. The illegal alien migrants who work for cash and through fake SSNs ... Not so much.

You cannot cure stupid - income tax is one thing, use taxes are another. The study takes a look in aggregate.
eople who are in the U.S. without legal immigration status do pay taxes—often more than people expect. Here’s how it works, practically speaking:

1. Payroll taxes (the big one)

• Many work jobs where taxes are automatically taken out of their paycheck.
• Employers withhold federal income tax, Social Security, and Medicare just like for anyone else.
• Those Social Security & Medicare payments usually can’t be claimed back later, so they go into the system without future benefits.

2. Filing income taxes with an ITIN

• If they file a tax return, they typically use an ITIN (Individual Taxpayer Identification Number) instead of a Social Security number.
• The IRS issues ITINs specifically so people without SSNs can still pay taxes.
• Millions of returns are filed this way every year.

3. Sales taxes

• Anyone who buys stuff pays sales tax—groceries (in some states), clothes, gas, electronics, etc.
• Immigration status doesn’t matter at the cash register.

4. Property taxes

• If they own a home, they pay property taxes.
• If they rent, property taxes are baked into the rent they pay.

5. State and local taxes

• Many also pay state income taxes, depending on the state and job setup.

Important reality check

• Paying taxes does not automatically give legal status.
• But paying taxes can matter later for things like immigration applications, showing “good moral character,” or work authorization cases.

If you want, I can also break down:

• how much undocumented immigrants pay overall,
• whether they get benefits back,
• or why the government encourages tax filing even without legal status.

 

[struth]

You are bullshitting. Read the study. You make stuff up to try and make Trump not look like the idiot he is.

Where in the study does Cato say illegals should stay?

Trumps an idiot why? The study shows trump is right and his policies are working

Illegals shouldn’t get any benefits and immigrants should pay more than they take. It should be much more is the only thing and hopefully Trump and get us there

 

[struth]

You cannot cure stupid - income tax is one thing, use taxes are another. The study takes a look in aggregate.
eople who are in the U.S. without legal immigration status do pay taxes—often more than people expect. Here’s how it works, practically speaking:

1. Payroll taxes (the big one)

• Many work jobs where taxes are automatically taken out of their paycheck.
• Employers withhold federal income tax, Social Security, and Medicare just like for anyone else.
• Those Social Security & Medicare payments usually can’t be claimed back later, so they go into the system without future benefits.

2. Filing income taxes with an ITIN

• If they file a tax return, they typically use an ITIN (Individual Taxpayer Identification Number) instead of a Social Security number.
• The IRS issues ITINs specifically so people without SSNs can still pay taxes.
• Millions of returns are filed this way every year.

3. Sales taxes

• Anyone who buys stuff pays sales tax—groceries (in some states), clothes, gas, electronics, etc.
• Immigration status doesn’t matter at the cash register.

4. Property taxes

• If they own a home, they pay property taxes.
• If they rent, property taxes are baked into the rent they pay.

5. State and local taxes

• Many also pay state income taxes, depending on the state and job setup.

Important reality check

• Paying taxes does not automatically give legal status.
• But paying taxes can matter later for things like immigration applications, showing “good moral character,” or work authorization cases.

If you want, I can also break down:

• how much undocumented immigrants pay overall,
• whether they get benefits back,
• or why the government encourages tax filing even without legal status.

Not really sure what your point is. Nobody has ever denied illegals don’t pay taxes

Why do you think it’s ok to exploit them for taxes?

 

[WEATHER53]

You think the Cato Institute is fakery.
MAGA has no clue about conservatism and libertarianism. They only know Trumpism which is a cult.
Educate yourself. You are embarrasssing yourself.

You all have an instant army of details at the push of a button. Thats because it is provided to you in advance

 

[ElmerMudd]

Where in the study does Cato say illegals should stay?

Trumps an idiot why? The study shows trump is right and his policies are working

Illegals shouldn’t get any benefits and immigrants should pay more than they take. It should be much more is the only thing and hopefully Trump and get us there

Nothing says illegals should stay. It is purely a cost benefit analysis.

You didn't read the study.

You don't work with facts, you work with your very limited knowledge of how our economy works. You don't know what you don't know.

 

[ElmerMudd]

You all have an instant army of details at the push of a button. Thats because it is provided to you in advance

READ IT!!! I provided it for you to read and give your opinion.

 

[struth]

Nothing says illegals should stay. It is purely a cost benefit analysis.

You didn't read the study.

You don't work with facts, you work with your very limited knowledge of how our economy works. You don't know what you don't know.

Having them stay and illegally and steal IDs from people here legally so they can pay that payroll tax isn’t a benefit at all..

I did read the study, that’s why I knew it never said any of them should stay

 

[WEATHER53]

A treasure trove of stilted data is sent to one of the paids here with instruction to create a fake thread using the pre packaged false material

 

[22lcidw]

Rumor that some Republicans may push for an amnesty. A one-time amnesty again. And again. And again. if true. NO!

 

[Nostra]

Immigrants, both legal and illegal but not US citizens, pay more in taxes than they receive in benefits from the US government.
A study by the Cato Institute, a right leaning Libertarian think tank, provides data on immigrants in the USA.
Please read the study for accurate assessment of immigrants in the USA. That is not to say that there arebad ones that should be deported bu that is a minority.


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Your numbers combine legal immigrants and illegal aliens. Do one for just illegals.


Hell, your numbers include Elon Musk's $12 BILLION income tax bill for one year.

 

[ElmerMudd]

Having them stay and illegally and steal IDs from people here legally so they can pay that payroll tax isn’t a benefit at all..

I did read the study, that’s why I knew it never said any of them should stay

You don't want to learn.
You want to protect your imaginery world that makes you feel safe.
Trump provides all the excuses of why you are not doing as well. He gives you enemies to blame.
Quit being a victim. Deal with the world the way it is not the way you wish it was.
Take accountability, don't be a whiny excuse maker.

 

[ElmerMudd]

Your numbers combine legal immigrants and illegal aliens. Do one for just illegals.


Hell, your numbers include Elon Musk's $12 BILLION income tax bill for one year.

I do not have the resources. Read the Cato report. They explain their rationale. You have not read the report.
Many being deported are legal immigrants.

 

[Captain Creeper]

You cannot cure stupid - income tax is one thing, use taxes are another. The study takes a look in aggregate.
eople who are in the U.S. without legal immigration status do pay taxes—often more than people expect. Here’s how it works, practically speaking:

1. Payroll taxes (the big one)

• Many work jobs where taxes are automatically taken out of their paycheck.
• Employers withhold federal income tax, Social Security, and Medicare just like for anyone else.
• Those Social Security & Medicare payments usually can’t be claimed back later, so they go into the system without future benefits.

2. Filing income taxes with an ITIN

• If they file a tax return, they typically use an ITIN (Individual Taxpayer Identification Number) instead of a Social Security number.
• The IRS issues ITINs specifically so people without SSNs can still pay taxes.
• Millions of returns are filed this way every year.

3. Sales taxes

• Anyone who buys stuff pays sales tax—groceries (in some states), clothes, gas, electronics, etc.
• Immigration status doesn’t matter at the cash register.

4. Property taxes

• If they own a home, they pay property taxes.
• If they rent, property taxes are baked into the rent they pay.

5. State and local taxes

• Many also pay state income taxes, depending on the state and job setup.

Important reality check

• Paying taxes does not automatically give legal status.
• But paying taxes can matter later for things like immigration applications, showing “good moral character,” or work authorization cases.

If you want, I can also break down:

• how much undocumented immigrants pay overall,
• whether they get benefits back,
• or why the government encourages tax filing even without legal status.

Dude, you don’t know what the **** your are talking about. You are just copy-pasting shit from some other source with little to no understanding of the same. You completely ignore the under-the-table economy among the illegals who do not voluntarily report (I.e., do not file tax returns), and the massive drag they put on our economy. Of course they pay sales taxes. DeRp! However, the illegals almost universally do not own real estate. And that is even beside the point, as income taxes are where the real money comes from.

If you believe that most illegal aliens are filing 1040s, you are one stupid MF-er.