Dear Irish Ram:
1. I would say SunniMan is not following the whole of the law, since this would include Christian scripture and teachings.
2. He is also coming across as much a hypocrite, as Christians who say they follow civil laws and respect religious freedom under the Constitution but then push laws violating that; or people who say they are against bullying in schools, but root on politicians and parties for bullying each other in the media. he is about at the same level of hypocrisy he yells about.
3. As for Islamic scriptures being used to preach killing of infidels in religious wars
a. the context was during times of religious wars, so these are not for civilians in peacetime
b. Mohammad taught there was "no compulsion in religion" and included all people of the Book, all sent by God as part of the faith of believers, including Jewish Christian and Muslim
So you are right, that the correct interpretation is to respect one another as neighbors in Christ, that IS the true message for ALL believers under Scripture whether Christian or other
4. The problem is, where there is dispute over interpretation of Scripture, you and I know as Christians we are supposed to follow instructions as in Matthew 18:15-20 or in the Constitutional laws to present the evidence and charges directly to the person and allow for defenses to be heard and truth to be established.
But people who don't know or follow this, end up fighting politically to overrule each other. This is especially bad in countries which don't have a solid foundation in either Christian or Constitutional law, so the bullies end up dominating the peaceful people and taking over by force.
In Islam in the very last scriptures in Sura 109, instructions are given to respect each other's way civilly in case of unresolved dispute. The problem is, where people disagree, one group goes into PREVIOUS scriptures in the Quran to justify condemning infidels; while other people go into the interpretations and teaching of Mohammad OUTSIDE the Quran that interpret Sura 109 as "peaceful co-existence". So they disagree which has precedence. Since the LATER verses trump the earlier ones, but things INSIDE the Quran trump verses OUTSIDE.
So that is why making peace usually depends on invoking ADDITIONAL sources of support, such as Christian scriptures or Constitutional principles. That is why I prefer to see these recognized and taught as "sent by God" among all Muslim followers, so the Quran is never taken out of context with the other laws given by the same God.
To take the war cries (some of them being in visions or dreams and not actual instructions)
"out of context" is like taking military commands by US soldiers in wartime "out of context" and saying it's okay to practice that on civilians in society during peacetime. The Constitution makes it very clear about respecting due process and not having police or searches and seizures without following legal procedures. So these are two different contexts.
Mohammad was both a military leader fighting historic wars,
and a spiritual prophet preparing followers for peace. So these are two different contexts.
Where Jews, Christians and Muslims unite in Christ, in agreement on truth and what the laws mean and how to live by them, then we will not have these wars or threats of war.
I'm sorry Irish that our fellow "men" on here bowed out gracefully
and could not endure the work it takes to resolve things peacefully.
I respect and thank you for your convictions in seeing this through,
and will trust you will not compromise but will continue until all issues are resolved in full.
thank you for this
and maybe our "men" on here will learn not to be the "wussies"
they accuse others of being!
I have no ill will toward any Muslim, that doesn't mean I am to be ignorant of their teachings or their agenda for Israel, or to believe bullshit in an effort to be politically correct.
Christ never told me to kill children, or anyone else for that matter.
Sunni won't tell you what Mohammad and Sunni's father, Allah, say to do to those that don't follow Allah. Sunni
knows the truth, he just doesn't want you to know it.
Sunni, do you just scratch out the parts of the Qur'an that tell you to mutilate and destroy non believers?
The Qur'an contains over 100 verses that call Muslims to war with nonbelievers for the sake of Islamic rule. Some are quite graphic, with commands to chop off heads and fingers and kill infidels wherever they may be hiding. Muslims who do not join the fight are called 'hypocrites' .
And,
Gracie, listen to what Sunni
says, and then read what Sunni
reads, to detect the truth. Then ask him for his "moderate" Islam stance on Jews. He is quite vocal here, on how his "fellow man" should be dealt with.
Then ask him if he
believes what he reads:
Quran (4:76) - "Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah…"
Quran (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and take no friends or helpers from their ranks."
Then ask Sunni if you can be his friend, you little renegade.
Then, when he says sure, "we can be friends", you won't be fooled either.
Quran (4:95) - "Not equal are those believers who sit (at home) and receive no hurt, and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit. Unto all (in Faith) Hath Allah promised good: But those who strive and fight Hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home) by a special reward,-"
SO, Praying for the death of non Muslims is good, but not as good as killing them yourself.
So Sunni is either not a good Muslim, or he is trying to get us to believe he's not like
all those other Qur'an Muslims.
There is no other kind of Muslim.
Jesus Christ does not advocate killing or mutilating anybody. He wants us
all to be friends, no exceptions.
yes I agree that Christ calls for Justice with Mercy and Peace for all humanity,
no anger or ill will or hatred, but forgiveness and healig, correction and restitution for peace.
I believe we will see this in our lifetime
thanks to people like you, so thank you Irish!
You must have read some of his other works! 
