Illegal immigrants

[danielpalos]

I was under the WRONG impression that this was a "Pro - Illegals Forum"???

If one has never befriended an "Economic Refugee" from South of the Border then how can they judge them? How can anyone in good conscience harbor such intense hate for fellow humans THAT HAVE "NEVER' DONE ANYTHING TO THEM PERSONALLY TO WARRANT ANY KIND OF NEGATIVE FEELINGS WHATSOEVER, LET ALONE INTENSE UNMITIGATED HATRED??? This is true of the hatred of any group or individual! Harboring hate and nurturing it by feeding on any information that reinforces this hatred, I do not believe is all that healthy for the individuals or groups that do so! This hatred predominately comes from learned behavior passed down from generation to generation! No human is born with the seed of hate implanted in their brain!

It's not a case of "hatred." It's a case of respecting the law.

10USC246 is federal law. Is it really really serious, or not.

 

[longknife]

 

[danielpalos]

10USC246 is also, federal law, right wingers. Don't fix a Bad moral Standard for less fortunate illegals!

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

10USC246 is also, federal law, right wingers. Don't fix a Bad moral Standard for less fortunate illegals!

Sorry, illegal aliens can't join the militia.

 

[Unkotare]

"Us them", "We they", "Our's theirs", "Mine your's" - Jesus Christ! Are we not all in the same boat? Is this Earth owned only by one group? One ethnicity? One Religious faction? One set of selfish values and priorities rules over all other values and priorities?

 

[sparky]

~S~

 

[Unkotare]

~S~

Where did the nazis or the soviets build a giant wall?

As for rounding up a group of innocent people and throwing them into concentration camps, the democrat party is the expert there.

 

[danielpalos]

10USC246 is also, federal law, right wingers. Don't fix a Bad moral Standard for less fortunate illegals!

Sorry, illegal aliens can't join the militia.

Proof positive, nobody should take the right wing seriously!

10USC246 is federal law. Don't be illegal to federal law, right wingers. There is a Religious technical term for it!

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Boot the illegals.

 

[danielpalos]

Boot the illegals.

spend money not make money; it really is, all the right wing knows how to do.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Yes, spend money to enforce the law, to secure the border.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

We are talking about dreamers. Who are kids that were brought over . The kids didn’t commit a crime .

too bad. they are illegal. ILLEGAL. no other way to spin it jack. ILLEGAL. My ancestors were legal immigrants, not aliens. They asked to come into the land not try and steal it. can you say trojan horse?

Lol. Your ancestors stole this land !

And the indians stole it from other indians.
Whats your point?

 

[jc456]

There is a very important difference between subsidizing failure, like Obama did with Solyndra, and a lender of last resort fighting a potential deflationary depression.

Yes there is, but the dif is rewarding the perps who created the bubble

which only means it can happen again....and again...

Why should there be no disparity? Or a lower disparity?

There's always a disparity, in fact there's always a disparity in any given country's political system , that's normal.

What happens when a minority owns the majority of wealth is, they call the shots

In America they are literally buying our congress, as well as tailoring legislature to fill their coffers.

In essence, an oligarchy with the illusion of choice & illusion of freedom

~S~

name a place with a majority that owns the wealth? who leads in that scenario?

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

should never be allowed to become citizens. Even if we give them legal status the fact that they refused to obey our laws in coming to The US should prevent any future citizenship

You bigots are in a tiny minority.

Thank God.

Nothing bigoted in protecting your country, Nancy!

You don't care about our country. You are only fooling yourselves.

Unlike you, we love our country. I will make you a deal Nancy boy. For every illegal alien we allow to stay here, we expell 5 gay people. Sounds like a winner to me, Nancy.

You'd run out homos long before beaners.

 

[sparky]

There is a very important difference between subsidizing failure, like Obama did with Solyndra, and a lender of last resort fighting a potential deflationary depression.

Yes there is, but the dif is rewarding the perps who created the bubble

which only means it can happen again....and again...

Why should there be no disparity? Or a lower disparity?

There's always a disparity, in fact there's always a disparity in any given country's political system , that's normal.

What happens when a minority owns the majority of wealth is, they call the shots

In America they are literally buying our congress, as well as tailoring legislature to fill their coffers.

In essence, an oligarchy with the illusion of choice & illusion of freedom

~S~

name a place with a majority that owns the wealth? who leads in that scenario?

That would be a meritocracy Jc, I'm afraid it'll be somewhat a premium on this rock

~S~

 

[jc456]

There is a very important difference between subsidizing failure, like Obama did with Solyndra, and a lender of last resort fighting a potential deflationary depression.

Yes there is, but the dif is rewarding the perps who created the bubble

which only means it can happen again....and again...

Why should there be no disparity? Or a lower disparity?

There's always a disparity, in fact there's always a disparity in any given country's political system , that's normal.

What happens when a minority owns the majority of wealth is, they call the shots

In America they are literally buying our congress, as well as tailoring legislature to fill their coffers.

In essence, an oligarchy with the illusion of choice & illusion of freedom

~S~

name a place with a majority that owns the wealth? who leads in that scenario?

That would be a meritocracy Jc, I'm afraid it'll be somewhat a premium on this rock

~S~

So name somewhere else is different? That’s all

 

[JonJon]

I was under the WRONG impression that this was a "Pro - Illegals Forum"???

If one has never befriended an "Economic Refugee" from South of the Border then how can they judge them? How can anyone in good conscience harbor such intense hate for fellow humans THAT HAVE "NEVER' DONE ANYTHING TO THEM PERSONALLY TO WARRANT ANY KIND OF NEGATIVE FEELINGS WHATSOEVER, LET ALONE INTENSE UNMITIGATED HATRED??? This is true of the hatred of any group or individual! Harboring hate and nurturing it by feeding on any information that reinforces this hatred, I do not believe is all that healthy for the individuals or groups that do so! This hatred predominately comes from learned behavior passed down from generation to generation! No human is born with the seed of hate implanted in their brain!

It's not a case of "hatred." It's a case of respecting the law.

10USC246 is federal law. Is it really really serious, or not.

Well There is this thing called Human Rites Violations - you are advocating that Human Rites suck hind tit to laws that involve Cruel, Sadistic, Heinous treatment of fellow "Human Beings" that have come here for a better life for them and their families? Put in handcuffs and extricated from their place of work, their homes, reporting their status to government agencies which is complying with a specific law, and all synonymous? Incarcerated with only the clothes on their back or shipped across the border with only the clothes on their back and no money, no home, no job, no place to go in a country that has little to offer them in terms of their primary needs to survive? If their whole family is shipped out, often because their kids want to stay with their parents or the parents want the kids to stay with them. If there is no one here to take care of what they leave in their house it is confiscated and given away or trashed and the valuables are probably sold - their home, their cars, everything? Look at what happened to the Japanese American "Citizens" that were incarcerated solely on the basis of their ethnicity WITHOUT due process or any other "Civil Rights" stated in the Constitution, Laws, Rules, and Regulations for "Citizens of The United States"? Granted these Immigrants are not Citizens but they are Human Beings! They are Demonized Dehumanized and treated like Vermin! Many have died in incarceration centers from lack of proper medical care! In one case in the news an immigrants death was attributed to "A Preexisting Health problem"! Yes they all have a "Preexisting Condition", they came from South of the Border, they are not all from Mexico! You speak like someone who has never had any interaction with these people! They work very hard and do not ***** about their jobs and are grateful as can be for having a job! They pour their income into the economy here and pay taxes! They do not hoard their money, they are consumers! Twelve million people deported at a cost figured at over $10,000.00 per person? $10,000.00 times 12,000,000 equals $1,200,000,000,000.00, one trillion two hundred billion dollars, and will take decades! Every dollar they spend goes through what is called "The Velocity of Money"! Every time their money changes hands taxes are collected on a City, County, State, and Federal basis! Their money gives employment and income to the businesses that they purchase goods and services from! A very small percentage get any type of government benefits and those that do do not necessarily stay on benefits! Probably 95 or more percent of them are "Christians"! They do not steal jobs from "Citizens"! Much of the work they do probably close to 90% of the "Citizens" would not do for very long, if at all!? There is so much more involved that goes way beyond them not having "Papers"! They are very Family oriented. Focusing only on the fact that they are "Illegal" is very shortsighted and shallow? It preempts the fact that they are Humans!

 

[danielpalos]

Yes, spend money to enforce the law, to secure the border.

and then refuse to pay for it?! Only the right wing, does that.

 

[danielpalos]

I was under the WRONG impression that this was a "Pro - Illegals Forum"???

If one has never befriended an "Economic Refugee" from South of the Border then how can they judge them? How can anyone in good conscience harbor such intense hate for fellow humans THAT HAVE "NEVER' DONE ANYTHING TO THEM PERSONALLY TO WARRANT ANY KIND OF NEGATIVE FEELINGS WHATSOEVER, LET ALONE INTENSE UNMITIGATED HATRED??? This is true of the hatred of any group or individual! Harboring hate and nurturing it by feeding on any information that reinforces this hatred, I do not believe is all that healthy for the individuals or groups that do so! This hatred predominately comes from learned behavior passed down from generation to generation! No human is born with the seed of hate implanted in their brain!

It's not a case of "hatred." It's a case of respecting the law.

10USC246 is federal law. Is it really really serious, or not.

Well There is this thing called Human Rites Violations - you are advocating that Human Rites suck hind tit to laws that involve Cruel, Sadistic, Heinous treatment of fellow "Human Beings" that have come here for a better life for them and their families? Put in handcuffs and extricated from their place of work, their homes, reporting their status to government agencies which is complying with a specific law, and all synonymous? Incarcerated with only the clothes on their back or shipped across the border with only the clothes on their back and no money, no home, no job, no place to go in a country that has little to offer them in terms of their primary needs to survive? If their whole family is shipped out, often because their kids want to stay with their parents or the parents want the kids to stay with them. If there is no one here to take care of what they leave in their house it is confiscated and given away or trashed and the valuables are probably sold? Look at what happened to the Japanese American "Citizens" that were incarcerated solely on the basis of their ethnicity WITHOUT due process or any other "Civil Rights" stated in the Constitution, Laws, Rules, and Regulations for "Citizens of The United States"? Granted these Immigrants are not Citizens but they are Human Beings! They are Demonized Dehumanized and treated like Vermin! Many have died in incarceration centers from lack of proper medical care! In one case in the news an immigrants death was attributed to "A Preexisting Health problem"! Yes they all have a "Preexisting Condition", they came from South of the Border, they are not all from Mexico! You speak like someone who has never had any interaction with these people! They work very hard and do not ***** about their jobs and are grateful as can be for having a job! They pour their income into the economy here and pay taxes! They do not hoard their money, they are consumers! Twelve million people deported at a cost figured at over $10,000.00 per person? $10,000.00 times 12,000,000 equals $1,200,000,000,000.00, one trillion two hundred billion dollars, and will take decades! Every dollar they spend goes through what is called "The Velocity of Money"! Every time their money changes hands taxes are collected on a City, County, State, and Federal basis! Their money gives employment and income to the businesses that they purchase goods and services from! A very small percentage get any type of government benefits and those that do do not necessarily stay on benefits! Probably 95 or more percent of them are "Christians"! They do not steal jobs from "Citizens"! Much of the work they do probably close to 90% of the "Citizens" would not do for very long, if at all!? There is so much more involved that goes way beyond them not having "Papers"! They are very Family oriented. Focusing only on the fact that they are "Illegal" is very shortsighted and shallow? It preempts the fact that they are Humans!

All foreign nationals in the US should have a federal id. Entry into the Union is a federal Obligation since 1808. A simple fee or fine, can make that happen via applied Capitalism.

the right wing doesn't like it or have any faith in it.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I was under the WRONG impression that this was a "Pro - Illegals Forum"???

If one has never befriended an "Economic Refugee" from South of the Border then how can they judge them? How can anyone in good conscience harbor such intense hate for fellow humans THAT HAVE "NEVER' DONE ANYTHING TO THEM PERSONALLY TO WARRANT ANY KIND OF NEGATIVE FEELINGS WHATSOEVER, LET ALONE INTENSE UNMITIGATED HATRED??? This is true of the hatred of any group or individual! Harboring hate and nurturing it by feeding on any information that reinforces this hatred, I do not believe is all that healthy for the individuals or groups that do so! This hatred predominately comes from learned behavior passed down from generation to generation! No human is born with the seed of hate implanted in their brain!

It's not a case of "hatred." It's a case of respecting the law.

10USC246 is federal law. Is it really really serious, or not.

Well There is this thing called Human Rites Violations - you are advocating that Human Rites suck hind tit to laws that involve Cruel, Sadistic, Heinous treatment of fellow "Human Beings" that have come here for a better life for them and their families? Put in handcuffs and extricated from their place of work, their homes, reporting their status to government agencies which is complying with a specific law, and all synonymous? Incarcerated with only the clothes on their back or shipped across the border with only the clothes on their back and no money, no home, no job, no place to go in a country that has little to offer them in terms of their primary needs to survive? If their whole family is shipped out, often because their kids want to stay with their parents or the parents want the kids to stay with them. If there is no one here to take care of what they leave in their house it is confiscated and given away or trashed and the valuables are probably sold? Look at what happened to the Japanese American "Citizens" that were incarcerated solely on the basis of their ethnicity WITHOUT due process or any other "Civil Rights" stated in the Constitution, Laws, Rules, and Regulations for "Citizens of The United States"? Granted these Immigrants are not Citizens but they are Human Beings! They are Demonized Dehumanized and treated like Vermin! Many have died in incarceration centers from lack of proper medical care! In one case in the news an immigrants death was attributed to "A Preexisting Health problem"! Yes they all have a "Preexisting Condition", they came from South of the Border, they are not all from Mexico! You speak like someone who has never had any interaction with these people! They work very hard and do not ***** about their jobs and are grateful as can be for having a job! They pour their income into the economy here and pay taxes! They do not hoard their money, they are consumers! Twelve million people deported at a cost figured at over $10,000.00 per person? $10,000.00 times 12,000,000 equals $1,200,000,000,000.00, one trillion two hundred billion dollars, and will take decades! Every dollar they spend goes through what is called "The Velocity of Money"! Every time their money changes hands taxes are collected on a City, County, State, and Federal basis! Their money gives employment and income to the businesses that they purchase goods and services from! A very small percentage get any type of government benefits and those that do do not necessarily stay on benefits! Probably 95 or more percent of them are "Christians"! They do not steal jobs from "Citizens"! Much of the work they do probably close to 90% of the "Citizens" would not do for very long, if at all!? There is so much more involved that goes way beyond them not having "Papers"! They are very Family oriented. Focusing only on the fact that they are "Illegal" is very shortsighted and shallow? It preempts the fact that they are Humans!

Put in handcuffs and extricated from their place of work, their homes,

If that's what it takes to send them back, you bet.

If there is no one here to take care of what they leave in their house

Their house?
Did they buy a house with fraudulent documents?

A very small percentage get any type of government benefits

Here in Chicago, more than a few illegal immigrants are being educated in the Chicago Public Schools.
It costs our broke education system hundreds of millions each year.
Send them back. Today!