Ignorant Homophobes fined $13,000 for refusing to host wedding

[JoeB131]

I don't have too. You do... And I bet you cave in the 11th hour and believe

Whether my fear of death makes me do something irrational at the end is not proof of a God.

I'm sorry you guys don't get this.

Where is your proof that there is a God, much less that he's really against the gays. (And if he is against the gays, why did he make them gay to start with?)

 

[Geaux4it]

I don't have too. You do... And I bet you cave in the 11th hour and believe

Whether my fear of death makes me do something irrational at the end is not proof of a God.

I'm sorry you guys don't get this.

Where is your proof that there is a God, much less that he's really against the gays. (And if he is against the gays, why did he make them gay to start with?)

Research 'faith' Joe and get back with us

-Geaux

 

[JoeB131]

Research 'faith' Joe and get back with us

Faith isn't proof.

Everyone who prayed for my mom's cancer to get better had faith.

It didn't.

Where's your proof?

 

[Seawytch]

What next for the left? Fags who want to marry chickens or perhaps a gay dog?

When dogs and chickens achieve sentience and can enter into legally binding contracts, we might have something to discuss.

So what is your logic behind denying rights to two adults in a loving relationship who happen to be the same gender?

Marriage is between a man and a woman... Period....

Why is for you and other abnormal lifestyle supportes to justify

-Geaux

Your opinion is not supported by facts. Marriage is for two consenting adults in more than half the states now. Welcome to the 21st Century.

Thanks Captain Obvious for pointing out the sun rises in the East

-Geaux

Why would you make an untrue statement about it if it's so obvious then? Marriage is obviously not "between a man and a woman...Period" so why would you make such an ignorant statement?

 

[bodecea]

What next for the left? Fags who want to marry chickens or perhaps a gay dog?

When dogs and chickens achieve sentience and can enter into legally binding contracts, we might have something to discuss.

So what is your logic behind denying rights to two adults in a loving relationship who happen to be the same gender?

Marriage is between a man and a woman... Period....

Why is for you and other abnormal lifestyle supportes to justify

-Geaux

For you, that may be your choice and desire.....but you do not have the right to dictate the same for other law-abiding, tax-paying couples......just like I don't have the right to dictate to you.

 

[Geaux4it]

What next for the left? Fags who want to marry chickens or perhaps a gay dog?

When dogs and chickens achieve sentience and can enter into legally binding contracts, we might have something to discuss.

So what is your logic behind denying rights to two adults in a loving relationship who happen to be the same gender?

Marriage is between a man and a woman... Period....

Why is for you and other abnormal lifestyle supportes to justify

-Geaux

Your opinion is not supported by facts. Marriage is for two consenting adults in more than half the states now. Welcome to the 21st Century.

Thanks Captain Obvious for pointing out the sun rises in the East

-Geaux

Why would you make an untrue statement about it if it's so obvious then? Marriage is obviously not "between a man and a woman...Period" so why would you make such an ignorant statement?

Because marriage is between a man and a woman. Not man to man, woman to woman, or man to chicken.

-Geaux

Matthew 7:21-23 ESV / 2 helpful votes
“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’

 

[Geaux4it]

What next for the left? Fags who want to marry chickens or perhaps a gay dog?

When dogs and chickens achieve sentience and can enter into legally binding contracts, we might have something to discuss.

So what is your logic behind denying rights to two adults in a loving relationship who happen to be the same gender?

Marriage is between a man and a woman... Period....

Why is for you and other abnormal lifestyle supportes to justify

-Geaux

For you, that may be your choice and desire.....but you do not have the right to dictate the same for other law-abiding, tax-paying couples......just like I don't have the right to dictate to you.

We're dictated to all the time. Obamacare?

-Geaux

 

[bodecea]

When dogs and chickens achieve sentience and can enter into legally binding contracts, we might have something to discuss.

So what is your logic behind denying rights to two adults in a loving relationship who happen to be the same gender?

Marriage is between a man and a woman... Period....

Why is for you and other abnormal lifestyle supportes to justify

-Geaux

Your opinion is not supported by facts. Marriage is for two consenting adults in more than half the states now. Welcome to the 21st Century.

Thanks Captain Obvious for pointing out the sun rises in the East

-Geaux

Why would you make an untrue statement about it if it's so obvious then? Marriage is obviously not "between a man and a woman...Period" so why would you make such an ignorant statement?

Because marriage is between a man and a woman. Not man to man, woman to woman, or man to chicken.

-Geaux

Matthew 7:21-23 ESV / 2 helpful votes
“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’

Um, it can be. But thanks for the typical connection between humans and animals.......tell us how that works out, eh?

 

[bodecea]

What next for the left? Fags who want to marry chickens or perhaps a gay dog?

When dogs and chickens achieve sentience and can enter into legally binding contracts, we might have something to discuss.

So what is your logic behind denying rights to two adults in a loving relationship who happen to be the same gender?

Marriage is between a man and a woman... Period....

Why is for you and other abnormal lifestyle supportes to justify

-Geaux

For you, that may be your choice and desire.....but you do not have the right to dictate the same for other law-abiding, tax-paying couples......just like I don't have the right to dictate to you.

We're dictated to all the time. Obamacare?

-Geaux

Deflection. Translation: you've got nothing.

 

[JoeB131]

“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’

Isn't that from the same book that has Witches, Zombies, Giants, Unicorns and Satyrs?

Okay, so where is your PROOF that God exists and he doesn't like the gays?

 

[martybegan]

Again, not for government to decide. Yes, some are more hard core than others, but all of them agree that homosexuality is sinful.

And they are perfectly free to believe that. Until we get the re-education camps going, anyway.

In the meantime, public accommodation says they got to serve gays whether they like it or not.

**** off and die you fascist ****.

 

[Seawytch]

When dogs and chickens achieve sentience and can enter into legally binding contracts, we might have something to discuss.

So what is your logic behind denying rights to two adults in a loving relationship who happen to be the same gender?

Marriage is between a man and a woman... Period....

Why is for you and other abnormal lifestyle supportes to justify

-Geaux

Your opinion is not supported by facts. Marriage is for two consenting adults in more than half the states now. Welcome to the 21st Century.

Thanks Captain Obvious for pointing out the sun rises in the East

-Geaux

Why would you make an untrue statement about it if it's so obvious then? Marriage is obviously not "between a man and a woman...Period" so why would you make such an ignorant statement?

Because marriage is between a man and a woman. Not man to man, woman to woman, or man to chicken.

-Geaux

Matthew 7:21-23 ESV / 2 helpful votes
“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’

Marriage is also between two men and/or two women. Your religion is free to discriminate as it sees fit...lot's of churches wouldn't marry interracial couples (at first).

 

[martybegan]

Why does that business owner have to express his disapproval? Is a wedding only a legitimate wedding if it has the empremator of a wedding vendor?

You have overplayed your hand. Not content with equal rights, you sought instead to impose your beliefs on others through force - you expected public support and are now surprised that the public reviles you.

I support your right to do whatever you please, insofar that you do not infringe the rights of others. Because you have violated the second precept. you lose the support of those who advocate for civil rights.

First understand this: I am not Gay. I am an American citizen who will defend my fellow citizens against discrimination. There is simply no rationalization, no justification for an ignorant bigot to create a second class of citizen merely for his own amusement.

Bigots always wrap themselves in a concept that is foreign to them: civil rights. There is no right to belittle, discriminate and marginalized a group of law abiding citizens. There is no "right" to discriminate against folks who are sober, law abiding, mature paying customers simply because they belong to a group you don't understand.

You just choose to discriminate against religious folks, and you use big daddy government to do it.

It makes you a statist, and a coward.

 

[martybegan]

There is a Halal butcher shop in Riverside. Should they be forced to sell me pork chops? Why, or why not?

Do they sell porkchops to other customers, but not you?

Gay wedding cake, straight wedding cake, pork, beef, meat is meat. food is food. Its all what you define as equal.

If someone sells wedding cakes to the public, they cannot discriminate. HOWEVER, if they do not sell wedding cakes to the public, PA (public accomodation) laws do not apply in forcing them to make a wedding cake for anyone.

That assumes a Same sex and opposite sex wedding cake are the same thing. They are not. they are celebrating two unique things.

That assumes a catholic wedding and a jewish wedding are the same thing. They are not. They are celebrating two unique things.

You don't see Catholics going around trying to force jews to hold a catholic wedding, or host one. The same goes for the opposite direction.

 

[martybegan]

So.....since the thread seems to have been abandoned by some of our more conservative posters, I'll ask the question to anyone:

Do Halal butcher shops sell porkchops to anyone?

They sell brisket, but you WANT them to sell porkchops, and you make the government force them to do it, because "discrimination"

 

[martybegan]

There is a Halal butcher shop in Riverside. Should they be forced to sell me pork chops? Why, or why not?

Do they sell porkchops to other customers, but not you?

Gay wedding cake, straight wedding cake, pork, beef, meat is meat. food is food. Its all what you define as equal.

If someone sells wedding cakes to the public, they cannot discriminate. HOWEVER, if they do not sell wedding cakes to the public, PA (public accomodation) laws do not apply in forcing them to make a wedding cake for anyone.

That assumes a Same sex and opposite sex wedding cake are the same thing. They are not. they are celebrating two unique things.

A wedding cake is a wedding cake, period. If you bake wedding cakes and your business is in a place with PA laws that ALSO protect gays, you bake the cake. A cake is a cake.

If you don't carry groom/groom or bride/bride toppers, you don't have to buy them...you just bake the ordered cake.

Or you can stop being a bunch of twats and go to another baker.

You people are some of most whiny bitches this world has ever seen.

I'm surprised a stiff wind doesn't blow you over while hurting your feeewings.

 

[martybegan]

There is a Halal butcher shop in Riverside. Should they be forced to sell me pork chops? Why, or why not?

Do they sell porkchops to other customers, but not you?

Gay wedding cake, straight wedding cake, pork, beef, meat is meat. food is food. Its all what you define as equal.

So does the Halal butcher shop sell pork chops to anyone?

Its a simple question.

Does a wedding chapel provide same sex marriage weddings? Does a baker provide cakes with groom/groom-bride/bride on top?

What you are arguing is that a pork chop is the same as a beef brisket, i.e. SSM and OSM are the same in every single respect, and one equals the other in both law and practice.

Which chapel are you referring to?

As for the baker, they make cakes. Does the Halal butcher shop sell pork chops? You've avoided my question like it were on fire. Why run if your claims have merit.

Do the Halal butcher shops sell pork chops to *anyone*? Yes or no. We both know the answer. Its just fun to watch you flee from it.

This isn't a real time message board, accusations of "fleeing" when no instant response is given is a hack move.

When it comes to wedding cakes, you just don't bake it, you deliver it, you attend the ceremony, you interact with the event. it would be like brining in a halal guy and having him cook pork, nevermind selling it.

 

[bodecea]

Why does that business owner have to express his disapproval? Is a wedding only a legitimate wedding if it has the empremator of a wedding vendor?

You have overplayed your hand. Not content with equal rights, you sought instead to impose your beliefs on others through force - you expected public support and are now surprised that the public reviles you.

I support your right to do whatever you please, insofar that you do not infringe the rights of others. Because you have violated the second precept. you lose the support of those who advocate for civil rights.

First understand this: I am not Gay. I am an American citizen who will defend my fellow citizens against discrimination. There is simply no rationalization, no justification for an ignorant bigot to create a second class of citizen merely for his own amusement.

Bigots always wrap themselves in a concept that is foreign to them: civil rights. There is no right to belittle, discriminate and marginalized a group of law abiding citizens. There is no "right" to discriminate against folks who are sober, law abiding, mature paying customers simply because they belong to a group you don't understand.

You just choose to discriminate against religious folks, and you use big daddy government to do it.

It makes you a statist, and a coward.

How are "religious folks" being discriminated against?

 

[bodecea]

Do they sell porkchops to other customers, but not you?

Gay wedding cake, straight wedding cake, pork, beef, meat is meat. food is food. Its all what you define as equal.

If someone sells wedding cakes to the public, they cannot discriminate. HOWEVER, if they do not sell wedding cakes to the public, PA (public accomodation) laws do not apply in forcing them to make a wedding cake for anyone.

That assumes a Same sex and opposite sex wedding cake are the same thing. They are not. they are celebrating two unique things.

That assumes a catholic wedding and a jewish wedding are the same thing. They are not. They are celebrating two unique things.

You don't see Catholics going around trying to force jews to hold a catholic wedding, or host one. The same goes for the opposite direction.

If a jewish wedding planner refused to host a catholic wedding, they would be subject to the same law.....didn't you know that?

 

[bodecea]

So.....since the thread seems to have been abandoned by some of our more conservative posters, I'll ask the question to anyone:

Do Halal butcher shops sell porkchops to anyone?

They sell brisket, but you WANT them to sell porkchops, and you make the government force them to do it, because "discrimination"

Brisket isn't pork. I guess the reason you don't understand the law is that it is simply beyond your comprehension that there is a major difference between an organization that offers a service to some, but not all.....and an organization that doesn't offer a particular service to anyone.