If You Don’t Think Government Schooling Is A Failure….

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…just look at the posts from Biden voters.



1.First the analogy, then the facts about our system of ‘education.’​

Saddled with the black hole where an understanding of American history, values and tradition should be, Democrat voters have been lulled into voting for polices of Rousseau, Hegel and Marx rather than of Jefferson, Madison and Adams.

And rather than voting for the policies of each party, they have been infantilized to the point of voting for persons, personalities, skin color.

The result is ever-increasing taxes, crime, and loss of freedom and instability in our nation, and the world.



2. Education has been replaced with indoctrination, and the following scores document the result.

“Dumbing Down K-12 Education

The inability of U.S. students to perform on par with the majority of other developed nations should cause alarm, given its implications for America’s global leadership. Instead, while other countries take their K-12 education seriously, American leaders are satisfied with pumping more money into an outdated system that continues to fail students and produces mediocre results.



Here’s the sad truth. Twenty-five countries outperform U.S. K-12 students. Those leading the way are China, Hong Kong, Finland, Singapore, South Korea, Japan, and Canada. China’s students not only place first overall, but they dominate each individual subject as well. U.S. students straggle in at 33rd in math, 23rd in science, and 17th in reading.



Of course, you wouldn’t learn this listening to the rhetoric coming from our political and educational leaders. Instead, they tout data that ranks U.S. students against other American students, states boast about their performance relative to other states, and school districts flaunt two percent gains in graduation rates.





The reality is even worse than the weak performance on average. The majority of U.S. public school students do not achieve grade level proficiency. The Nation’s Report Card reveals that only 28.7 percent of 4th-graders, 26.4 percent of 8th-graders, and a mere 22.8 percent of 12th-graders reach basic proficiency levels averaged across seven subjects (civics, geography, mathematics, reading, science, U.S. history, and writing) on the National Assessment of Educational Progress tests. In other words, over 71 percent of our students lack basic academic proficiencies at the end of their 13-year K-12 schooling.



At a time in history when more learning and skill development are needed, the opposite has occurred. As witnessed throughout the 2020-2021 school year, teacher unions led the charge in our government-funded and run K-12 public education system to make things worse. Putting partisan politics and self-promotion ahead of student learning, they refused to allow teachers to return to their classrooms until outlandish demands are met — including moratoriums on charter schools, defunding the police, and Medicare for all.”
Dumbing Down K-12 Education



If you don’t understand the connection between this failure and the party in power…..



….then you must be a government school grad.
 
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…just look at the posts from Biden voters.



1.First the analogy, then the facts about our system of ‘education.’​

Saddled with the black hole where an understanding of American history, values and tradition should be, Democrat voters have been lulled into voting for polices of Rousseau, Hegel and Marx rather than of Jefferson, Madison and Adams.

And rather than voting for the policies of each party, they have been infantilized to the point of voting for persons, personalities, skin color.

The result is ever-increasing taxes, crime, and loss of freedom and instability in our nation, and the world.



2. Education has been replaced with indoctrination, and the following scores document the result.

“Dumbing Down K-12 Education

The inability of U.S. students to perform on par with the majority of other developed nations should cause alarm, given its implications for America’s global leadership. Instead, while other countries take their K-12 education seriously, American leaders are satisfied with pumping more money into an outdated system that continues to fail students and produces mediocre results.



Here’s the sad truth. Twenty-five countries outperform U.S. K-12 students. Those leading the way are China, Hong Kong, Finland, Singapore, South Korea, Japan, and Canada. China’s students not only place first overall, but they dominate each individual subject as well. U.S. students straggle in at 33rd in math, 23rd in science, and 17th in reading.



Of course, you wouldn’t learn this listening to the rhetoric coming from our political and educational leaders. Instead, they tout data that ranks U.S. students against other American students, states boast about their performance relative to other states, and school districts flaunt two percent gains in graduation rates.





The reality is even worse than the weak performance on average. The majority of U.S. public school students do not achieve grade level proficiency. The Nation’s Report Card reveals that only 28.7 percent of 4th-graders, 26.4 percent of 8th-graders, and a mere 22.8 percent of 12th-graders reach basic proficiency levels averaged across seven subjects (civics, geography, mathematics, reading, science, U.S. history, and writing) on the National Assessment of Educational Progress tests. In other words, over 71 percent of our students lack basic academic proficiencies at the end of their 13-year K-12 schooling.



At a time in history when more learning and skill development are needed, the opposite has occurred. As witnessed throughout the 2020-2021 school year, teacher unions led the charge in our government-funded and run K-12 public education system to make things worse. Putting partisan politics and self-promotion ahead of student learning, they refused to allow teachers to return to their classrooms until outlandish demands are met — including moratoriums on charter schools, defunding the police, and Medicare for all.”
Dumbing Down K-12 Education



If you don’t understand the connection between this failure and the party in power…..



….then you must be a government school grad.
You have described the republican soup for brains voters.
 
This is just part of the party politics over country, PC.
I do believe it is all part of the slide of the American Exceptionalism.
To attain the globalism from the left, this needs to happen.


My view, Meister, is more......Manichean.....

They don't want a future at all.......the strive to destroy.



Their motivation in all venues, all institutions, all values and traditions is simply this: destroy.

Destroy all that is, to create their imaginary Utopia.
They desire to destroy all tradition, values, and attitudes, beginning with morality, and the family, and build their imagined Utopia here on earth.

"In this particular idea of the Enlightenment, the need to change human nature, and to eliminate customs and traditions, to remake established institutions, to do away with all inequalities in order to bring man closer to the state, which was the expression of the general will."
Talmon, “Origins of Totalitarian Democracy,” p. 3-7



And just like suicide bombers, they are willing to go down with civilization.
 
…just look at the posts from Biden voters.



1.First the analogy, then the facts about our system of ‘education.’​

Saddled with the black hole where an understanding of American history, values and tradition should be, Democrat voters have been lulled into voting for polices of Rousseau, Hegel and Marx rather than of Jefferson, Madison and Adams.

And rather than voting for the policies of each party, they have been infantilized to the point of voting for persons, personalities, skin color.

The result is ever-increasing taxes, crime, and loss of freedom and instability in our nation, and the world.



2. Education has been replaced with indoctrination, and the following scores document the result.

“Dumbing Down K-12 Education

The inability of U.S. students to perform on par with the majority of other developed nations should cause alarm, given its implications for America’s global leadership. Instead, while other countries take their K-12 education seriously, American leaders are satisfied with pumping more money into an outdated system that continues to fail students and produces mediocre results.



Here’s the sad truth. Twenty-five countries outperform U.S. K-12 students. Those leading the way are China, Hong Kong, Finland, Singapore, South Korea, Japan, and Canada. China’s students not only place first overall, but they dominate each individual subject as well. U.S. students straggle in at 33rd in math, 23rd in science, and 17th in reading.



Of course, you wouldn’t learn this listening to the rhetoric coming from our political and educational leaders. Instead, they tout data that ranks U.S. students against other American students, states boast about their performance relative to other states, and school districts flaunt two percent gains in graduation rates.





The reality is even worse than the weak performance on average. The majority of U.S. public school students do not achieve grade level proficiency. The Nation’s Report Card reveals that only 28.7 percent of 4th-graders, 26.4 percent of 8th-graders, and a mere 22.8 percent of 12th-graders reach basic proficiency levels averaged across seven subjects (civics, geography, mathematics, reading, science, U.S. history, and writing) on the National Assessment of Educational Progress tests. In other words, over 71 percent of our students lack basic academic proficiencies at the end of their 13-year K-12 schooling.



At a time in history when more learning and skill development are needed, the opposite has occurred. As witnessed throughout the 2020-2021 school year, teacher unions led the charge in our government-funded and run K-12 public education system to make things worse. Putting partisan politics and self-promotion ahead of student learning, they refused to allow teachers to return to their classrooms until outlandish demands are met — including moratoriums on charter schools, defunding the police, and Medicare for all.”
Dumbing Down K-12 Education



If you don’t understand the connection between this failure and the party in power…..



….then you must be a government school grad.
No, I think government schooling is a blessing for many poor and middle class families. Private schools are great for the rich but not everybody can afford it
 
Let's check.

I can name dozens of Biden policies I voted against.....and Trump policies I voted for.

Let's see you name the Biden policies you voted for, or the Trump policies you voted against.
Everything Biden has done I agree with. Everything rump dump did I detest.
 
3. Students who complete government schooling leave with a number of mistaken perceptions, one being that Nazism was a horror, but Communism was not nearly so, and much of the latter is to be desired.
After all, the aims of the Democrat Party mirror those of the Communist Party.



The truth is that both Nazism and Communism are Leftist doctrines that emanate from the work of Karl Marx, and by any objective measure, Communism was the worse.

Communism killed more innocents, oppressed more, and has left far more of it’s ‘footprint’ than Nazism.




4. As to why there are so many more Bolsheviks, Marxists, Communists, Socialists, Democrats, Progressives, Liberals than Nazist......
.…as Martin Amis put it, 'Bolshevism was exportable and produced near-identical results elsewhere. Nazism could not be duplicated. Compared to it, the other fascist states were simply amateurish' (Amis, 2002, p. 91).

This makes communism more dangerous than Nazism.

Nazism was based on blood and nationalism, so, could not be duplicated in nations like America, which is made up of so very many nations.





How many know that until June of 1941, Hitler and Stalin were allies, and it was the Soviets who taught the Nazis to build concentration camps?
 
First of all a picture that is hosted on an image processing website is not proof of anything. Why don't you post real sources stats so we can see how they are analyzed?

Second even your chart if true and relevant, it doesn't prove a failed education system.

Big swing and a miss PC. Got anything else?
 
First of all a picture that is hosted on an image processing website is not proof of anything. Why don't you post real sources stats so we can see how they are analyzed?

Second even your chart if true and relevant, it doesn't prove a failed education system.

Big swing and a miss PC. Got anything else?

"Why don't you post real sources stats so we can see how they are analyzed?"


Stats????

Your reading skills......the result of government schooling.



From the OP:

2. Education has been replaced with indoctrination, and the following scores document the result.​

“Dumbing Down K-12 Education​

The inability of U.S. students to perform on par with the majority of other developed nations should cause alarm, given its implications for America’s global leadership. Instead, while other countries take their K-12 education seriously, American leaders are satisfied with pumping more money into an outdated system that continues to fail students and produces mediocre results.



Here’s the sad truth. Twenty-five countries outperform U.S. K-12 students. Those leading the way are China, Hong Kong, Finland, Singapore, South Korea, Japan, and Canada. China’s students not only place first overall, but they dominate each individual subject as well. U.S. students straggle in at 33rd in math, 23rd in science, and 17th in reading.



Of course, you wouldn’t learn this listening to the rhetoric coming from our political and educational leaders. Instead, they tout data that ranks U.S. students against other American students, states boast about their performance relative to other states, and school districts flaunt two percent gains in graduation rates.





The reality is even worse than the weak performance on average. The majority of U.S. public school students do not achieve grade level proficiency. The Nation’s Report Card reveals that only 28.7 percent of 4th-graders, 26.4 percent of 8th-graders, and a mere 22.8 percent of 12th-graders reach basic proficiency levels averaged across seven subjects (civics, geography, mathematics, reading, science, U.S. history, and writing) on the National Assessment of Educational Progress tests. In other words, over 71 percent of our students lack basic academic proficiencies at the end of their 13-year K-12 schooling.



At a time in history when more learning and skill development are needed, the opposite has occurred. As witnessed throughout the 2020-2021 school year, teacher unions led the charge in our government-funded and run K-12 public education system to make things worse. Putting partisan politics and self-promotion ahead of student learning, they refused to allow teachers to return to their classrooms until outlandish demands are met — including moratoriums on charter schools, defunding the police, and Medicare for all.”

Dumbing Down K-12 Education

If you don’t understand the connection between this failure and the party in power…..



….then you must be a government school grad.
 
"Why don't you post real sources stats so we can see how they are analyzed?"


Stats????

Your reading skills......the result of government schooling.



From the OP:

2. Education has been replaced with indoctrination, and the following scores document the result.​

“Dumbing Down K-12 Education​

The inability of U.S. students to perform on par with the majority of other developed nations should cause alarm, given its implications for America’s global leadership. Instead, while other countries take their K-12 education seriously, American leaders are satisfied with pumping more money into an outdated system that continues to fail students and produces mediocre results.



Here’s the sad truth. Twenty-five countries outperform U.S. K-12 students. Those leading the way are China, Hong Kong, Finland, Singapore, South Korea, Japan, and Canada. China’s students not only place first overall, but they dominate each individual subject as well. U.S. students straggle in at 33rd in math, 23rd in science, and 17th in reading.



Of course, you wouldn’t learn this listening to the rhetoric coming from our political and educational leaders. Instead, they tout data that ranks U.S. students against other American students, states boast about their performance relative to other states, and school districts flaunt two percent gains in graduation rates.





The reality is even worse than the weak performance on average. The majority of U.S. public school students do not achieve grade level proficiency. The Nation’s Report Card reveals that only 28.7 percent of 4th-graders, 26.4 percent of 8th-graders, and a mere 22.8 percent of 12th-graders reach basic proficiency levels averaged across seven subjects (civics, geography, mathematics, reading, science, U.S. history, and writing) on the National Assessment of Educational Progress tests. In other words, over 71 percent of our students lack basic academic proficiencies at the end of their 13-year K-12 schooling.



At a time in history when more learning and skill development are needed, the opposite has occurred. As witnessed throughout the 2020-2021 school year, teacher unions led the charge in our government-funded and run K-12 public education system to make things worse. Putting partisan politics and self-promotion ahead of student learning, they refused to allow teachers to return to their classrooms until outlandish demands are met — including moratoriums on charter schools, defunding the police, and Medicare for all.”

Dumbing Down K-12 Education

If you don’t understand the connection between this failure and the party in power…..



….then you must be a government school grad.
There are many different ways educational rankings have been analyzed. Easy to find a wide variety of methods. You posted a no context chart hosted by in image processing link with a barely legible data on it... That is meaningless. I could google search some studies that I've never heard of and post them here but what's the point in that? You are the one making the claims that the system has failed and you're the one posting charts... So back them up with real data
 
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There are many different ways educational rankings have been analyzed. Easy to find a wide variety of methods. You posted a no context chart hosted by in image processing link with a barely legible data on it... That is meaningless. I could google search some studies that I've never heard of and post them here but what's the point in that? You are the one making the claims that the system has failed and you're the one posting charts... So back them up with real data



Can you provide three or four of the books that have informed your geopolitical outlook?
 
5. Hidden from their captive audience, are the facts about how and why they are taught only of the evils of the Nazis.
Why are the iniquities of the Communists downplayed?


Now...take the Holocaust as an example....although one American President actually authorized concentration camps for his citizens, and while Nazis, Fascists, and Communists were once one big, comfortable association with American Progressives and that very same President, the catalogue of Nazi crimes caused American Progressives to suddenly claim that....no, Nazis were not really of the Left...they had to be the very opposite.





6. "American progressives, for the most part, did not disavow fascism until the horrors of the Nazi Holocaust became manifest during World War II. After the war, those progressives who had praised Mussolini and Hitler in the 1920s and 1930s had no choice but to dissociate themselves from fascism. “Accordingly,” writes Jonah Goldberg, “leftist intellectuals redefined fascism as 'right-wing' and projected their own sins onto conservatives, even as they continued to borrow heavily from fascist and pre-fascist thought.” This progressive campaign to recast fascism as the "right-wing" antithesis of communism was aided by Joseph Stalin,..."

Goldberg, Liberal Fascism





" Fascism did not acquire an evil name in Washington until Hitler became a menace to the Soviet Union."
Manly, “The Twenty Year Revolution,” p. 48





Shouldn’t students be taught this, as a vote for the Democrat Party is a vote for the same aims as both the Nazis and Communists.
 
…just look at the posts from Biden voters.



1.First the analogy, then the facts about our system of ‘education.’​

Saddled with the black hole where an understanding of American history, values and tradition should be, Democrat voters have been lulled into voting for polices of Rousseau, Hegel and Marx rather than of Jefferson, Madison and Adams.

And rather than voting for the policies of each party, they have been infantilized to the point of voting for persons, personalities, skin color.

The result is ever-increasing taxes, crime, and loss of freedom and instability in our nation, and the world.



2. Education has been replaced with indoctrination, and the following scores document the result.

“Dumbing Down K-12 Education

The inability of U.S. students to perform on par with the majority of other developed nations should cause alarm, given its implications for America’s global leadership. Instead, while other countries take their K-12 education seriously, American leaders are satisfied with pumping more money into an outdated system that continues to fail students and produces mediocre results.



Here’s the sad truth. Twenty-five countries outperform U.S. K-12 students. Those leading the way are China, Hong Kong, Finland, Singapore, South Korea, Japan, and Canada. China’s students not only place first overall, but they dominate each individual subject as well. U.S. students straggle in at 33rd in math, 23rd in science, and 17th in reading.



Of course, you wouldn’t learn this listening to the rhetoric coming from our political and educational leaders. Instead, they tout data that ranks U.S. students against other American students, states boast about their performance relative to other states, and school districts flaunt two percent gains in graduation rates.





The reality is even worse than the weak performance on average. The majority of U.S. public school students do not achieve grade level proficiency. The Nation’s Report Card reveals that only 28.7 percent of 4th-graders, 26.4 percent of 8th-graders, and a mere 22.8 percent of 12th-graders reach basic proficiency levels averaged across seven subjects (civics, geography, mathematics, reading, science, U.S. history, and writing) on the National Assessment of Educational Progress tests. In other words, over 71 percent of our students lack basic academic proficiencies at the end of their 13-year K-12 schooling.



At a time in history when more learning and skill development are needed, the opposite has occurred. As witnessed throughout the 2020-2021 school year, teacher unions led the charge in our government-funded and run K-12 public education system to make things worse. Putting partisan politics and self-promotion ahead of student learning, they refused to allow teachers to return to their classrooms until outlandish demands are met — including moratoriums on charter schools, defunding the police, and Medicare for all.”
Dumbing Down K-12 Education



If you don’t understand the connection between this failure and the party in power…..



….then you must be a government school grad.
Our failing educational system is one of the reasons I soured on Trump. He allowed the downward death spiral to continue unabated
 

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