If You Are Too Busy Earning A Living To Pay Attention......

[PoliticalChic]

Wait ...

Is PC actually pretending to have ever held an actual job, other than raking in the rubles?

Come on. Nobody is going to fall for story that crazy.

Are you unable to assemble a cogent response to the OP to which you voluntarily subscribed?

You must be a Democrat, you dunce.

 

[Woodznutz]

How much should the governmnt take of what one earns?

Whatever it wants?

Is there a limit?

You like being a slave?

Do you ever read? How about this:
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The way around taxes is to just find a way not to pay them. Millions of illegal immigrants do, why not citizens.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I see you are at it again, misrepresenting that quote. Par for the course I guess. Here is the quote,

"Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you've got a business, you didn't build that."
You didn't build it ALONE, that is what he meant, and it seems pretty clear to me. And he didn't say a damn think about one's salary, let alone not earning it. You made that shit up out of whole cloth. Well, not you. I doubt you are intelligent enough to make up the bed. You're like a psychotic parrot.

Putting Mitt Romney's attacks on 'You didn't build that' to the Truth-O-Meter

For nearly two weeks, the Romney and Obama campaign have been arguing about whether President Barack Obama insulted entr

www.politifact.com

More than a decade fact-checkers put your claim to rest. Yet here you are, trotting out the same old long dead horse. That is poof, you don't have an Ivy League education. You might have a private elementary education, one of backwards ass religious schools, probably believe dinosaurs and man roamed the earth together some six thousand years ago.

Tax and spend Democrats. You mean Republicans don't tax and spend? I mean do you ever listen to yourself. No Republicans cut taxes and spend, they just borrow the money. You know why? Because their wealthy supporters figured out, about the time Reagan was elected, that it was better to loan money to the government , at interest, than pay taxes.

People have to work two jobs, not because of the taxes they pay, but because a common laborer job, a low-level job, good God Almighty, even management jobs, the local bank president, they don't pay SHIT compared to what they paid before Reagan. That, and well, nobody knows how to cook anymore, the food supply chain has been vertically integrated, other businesses have consolidated, oligopolies exist throughout thanks to "de-regulation", and the finance industry takes like three times the share of the economy it used to take without giving anything in return.

I mean to sum up your post. Obama said you didn't build that. Democrats believe you don't earn your paycheck. Democrats tax and spend, I really like this statement,

While there is no single, precise figure--in other words, you got nothing. You got no proof. You are just throwing shit up against the wall hoping it sticks, except it is old shit, dried out shit, of course it is not going to stick. Here, go find your proof.



Column N follows every single tax bill that changed income tax rates. Look up the bills, review the roll-calls, maybe you can prove your point. Until then, STFU.

Want to know what the problem is, find it here.

GINI Index for the United States

Graph and download economic data for GINI Index for the United States (SIPOVGINIUSA) from 1963 to 2023 about gini, indexes, and USA.

fred.stlouisfed.org

I will be happy to explain it to you. I know you couldn't possibly comprehend it.

Did you write this, Nazi?

"Asian is not white, GTFO."

Forsyth And Trump's Travel Ban post #2

 

[PoliticalChic]

Sorry, you misinterpreted Obama's statement.

Nay, nay.....I both quoted it perfectly and understood it perfectly.


You, not so much.

 

[Woodznutz]

Nay, nay.....I both quoted it perfectly and understood it perfectly.


You, not so much.

I thought I explained it well. And, it gets even better. This generation owns what was made by previous ones. We own everything that the nation is in debt for. When we die it will fall to the next generation.

 

[PoliticalChic]

The way around taxes is to just find a way not to pay them. Millions of illegal immigrants do, why not citizens.

I'd like to be kind, but I'm not gonna allow you to change the subject.

This subject: Democrats love to take money from earners, use it to buy votes.

Simple as that. They cast aspersions as Obama did, suggesting that they are entitled to your money.





"Dan Rostenkowski, standing next to the candidate in front of the cameras and the cheering crowd at the convention after the fateful speech, whispered to Mondale, "You've got a lot of balls, pal." According to Rostenkowski, Mondale whispered back, "Look at 'em, we're going to tax their ass off."
Mondale says: "We're going to tax their ass off"



History repeating:


"Biden: "If you elect me, your taxes are going to be raised"

Biden: "If you elect me, your taxes are going to be raised" - Americans for Tax Reform​

At a Joe Biden campaign rally in South Carolina on Friday, a voter told Biden that the Trump tax cut saved him money, but Biden shot back that he would raise taxes if elected. Biden: "By the way, how many of you did really well with that $1.9 trillion tax cut..." [Voter…

www.atr.org





At a Joe Biden campaign rally in South Carolina on Friday, a voter told Biden that the Trump tax cut saved him money, but Biden shot back that he would raise taxes if elected.




Biden: "By the way, how many of you did really well with that $1.9 trillion tax cut..."

[Voter raises a hand to say he benefited from the Trump tax cut.]

Biden: "Well you did! Well, that's good. I'm glad to see you are doing well already. But guess what, if you elect me, your taxes are going to be raised, not cut, if you benefited from that."
Ibid.

 

[airplanemechanic]

Glad to help. Any honest listener knew what Obama meant.

"You didn't build that" is a phrase from a 2012 election campaign speech delivered by United States President Barack Obama on July 13, 2012, in Roanoke, Virginia. In the speech, Obama said: "Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you've got a business, you didn't build that."
The sentence "If you've got a business, you didn't build that" was publicized by his political opponents during the 2012 presidential campaign as an attack by Obama on business and entrepreneurs.[1][2][3] The Obama campaign responded that the criticisms were taking the phrase out of context, and the word "that" in the phrase was referring to the construction of "roads and bridges" in the previous sentence.[4]

Um, all you did was show that it was accurately quoted. Thanks.

 

[BackAgain]

"You didn't build that", is one of the most misquoted political statements ever made.

It is also widely quoted with accuracy.

The entire “thought process” underlying the statement, as made & when made, however, was clear.

And it was odious.

 

[Woodznutz]

Um, all you did was show that it was accurately quoted. Thanks.

Millions were led to believe it meant something other than what it meant.

 

[Winston]

Did you write this, Nazi?

"Asian is not white, GTFO."

Forsyth And Trump's Travel Ban post #2

Non topical, is not a rebuttal. I am not the only person that said you misrepresented Obama's quote. Your response, yes I did. Are you like seven years old?

I mean what is the purpose of the OP? Could you not debate Robert in that thread, why create a new thread, with fucking over a decade old misrepresented quote and some stupid claim about "tax and spend" Democrats. You have not provided a single argument to support your contentions. Oh wait, do you know what a contention is? Do you even know the meaning of the word rebuttal? Is English not your first language? Do you know what the GINI index is, or the Lorentz curve? Did you even bother to look at historical tax rates, I found that particular spreadsheet captivating, and enlightening.

Reagan cut taxes, once. He raised them eleven times. ELEVEN TIMES. In the end, when the smoke cleared, Reagan had increased taxes above what they were when he took office. He was the original tax and spend president. In fact, as a share of GDP, Reagan holds the record for the largest tax increases in history.



Reagan increased the Social Security tax from 9% to 15%, and of course, the government spent all that money, borrowing from the Social Security trust fund. An abomination. Listen to the video. Social Security tax was assessed on 80% of all income prior to Reagan, today, it doesn't even make it to ten percent.

I have known this all along. I was at one of the public universities, graduate student in Economics. I was the TA for the head of Reagan's OMB. I had a unique talent, I was one of the first specialist in Econometrics, combining Statistics with Economics. I was tasked with running the numbers for the Chicago Macroeconomic model. And I protested from the getgo. Those initial tax cuts, not only were they not going to pay for themselves, they were going to tear a hole in the budget, deficits would explode. I mean the numbers were working out, but the inputs were all wrong, statistically, I could show that. And in the end, I was right, and the following year the tax increases started coming down the pipe. Problem is, the poor and middle class paid the bulk of the burden. THAT is why it takes two people to support a family.

 

[Woodznutz]

It is also widely quoted with accuracy.

The entire “thought process” underlying the statement, as made & when made, however, was clear.

And it was odious.

Not so odious to me (and I didn't vote for him). This is pretty much his whole thought on the topic.

'You Didn't Build That,' Uncut and Unedited - FactCheck.org

Mitt Romney and his allies have attacked President Barack Obama — often out of context — for saying, “If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen.” American Crossroads posted a 60-second Web video called “Build” that shows small-business owners reacting to...

www.factcheck.org

 

[Winston]

Um, all you did was show that it was accurately quoted. Thanks.

Normally, I would just let that slide. But I have to be concerned. Who are these people that think they "built that". You call it accurately quoted, in what sense, because no, no man "built that", on their own. Outside of financiers like maybe Soros or Paulson. But even them, they used other people's money. No man is a damn island.

What happened to leadership? What happened to that famous pyramid, where the wealthy stand on the shoulders of those less wealthy than them. I mean it as if the winner of the Iditarod Sled Dog Race stood up at the end and said, "I won, all by myself". What, did he pull the sleigh? I mean, of course the dogs have a lot to do with it, but so do the support team members, the stop off points--the infrastructure, the paths and trails taken by others for decades before. No, YOU DIDN"T BUILD THAT. Take the dogs away, take the support staff away, take the infrastructure away, the Mofo freezes to death within a week.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Millions were led to believe it meant something other than what it meant.

You don't seem to know what it means. I can help: it means all of us are serfs.

You buy that?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Non topical, is not a rebuttal. I am not the only person that said you misrepresented Obama's quote. Your response, yes I did. Are you like seven years old?

I mean what is the purpose of the OP? Could you not debate Robert in that thread, why create a new thread, with fucking over a decade old misrepresented quote and some stupid claim about "tax and spend" Democrats. You have not provided a single argument to support your contentions. Oh wait, do you know what a contention is? Do you even know the meaning of the word rebuttal? Is English not your first language? Do you know what the GINI index is, or the Lorentz curve? Did you even bother to look at historical tax rates, I found that particular spreadsheet captivating, and enlightening.

Reagan cut taxes, once. He raised them eleven times. ELEVEN TIMES. In the end, when the smoke cleared, Reagan had increased taxes above what they were when he took office. He was the original tax and spend president. In fact, as a share of GDP, Reagan holds the record for the largest tax increases in history.



Reagan increased the Social Security tax from 9% to 15%, and of course, the government spent all that money, borrowing from the Social Security trust fund. An abomination. Listen to the video. Social Security tax was assessed on 80% of all income prior to Reagan, today, it doesn't even make it to ten percent.

I have known this all along. I was at one of the public universities, graduate student in Economics. I was the TA for the head of Reagan's OMB. I had a unique talent, I was one of the first specialist in Econometrics, combining Statistics with Economics. I was tasked with running the numbers for the Chicago Macroeconomic model. And I protested from the getgo. Those initial tax cuts, not only were they not going to pay for themselves, they were going to tear a hole in the budget, deficits would explode. I mean the numbers were working out, but the inputs were all wrong, statistically, I could show that. And in the end, I was right, and the following year the tax increases started coming down the pipe. Problem is, the poor and middle class paid the bulk of the burden. THAT is why it takes two people to support a family.

Did you write this, Nazi?

"Asian is not white, GTFO."

Forsyth And Trump's Travel Ban post #2

 

[PoliticalChic]

Not so odious to me (and I didn't vote for him). This is pretty much his whole thought on the topic.

'You Didn't Build That,' Uncut and Unedited - FactCheck.org

Mitt Romney and his allies have attacked President Barack Obama — often out of context — for saying, “If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen.” American Crossroads posted a 60-second Web video called “Build” that shows small-business owners reacting to...

www.factcheck.org

See if this helps you understand what is behind what I accurately quoted:

"Illinois ACORN records show that Obama was a member of the socialist New Party, having joined on Jan. 11, 1996. Obama formally requested a New Party endorsement, signed the candidate contract and joined the party. He denies it. Founded by leftist radicals in 1992 and controlled by ACORN, the New Party's ultimate stated goal was to push the Democratic Party further to the political left and establish socialism in America.
His father, Barack Sr., was a socialist/communist, as was Lolo Soetero, the president's stepfather. The president's mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, was a self-described atheist and socialist, as were her father and mother, the grandparents who raised Barack."

Obama's past molded him​

Since President Obama's background has been largely ignored by the national news media, there are significant facts that should be brought forward about those who have influenced Obama during his for…
www.augustachronicle.com

 

[Winston]

Did you write this, Nazi?

"Asian is not white, GTFO."

Forsyth And Trump's Travel Ban post #2

Yes, do you believe Asians are white.

But I got to admit, you are kind of a rarity, Asian and STUPID. Did you parent's drop you on your head? Or was it those private religious schools with dumbass teachers. Obviously, you have some issues.

Do you see my crying about you calling me a Nazi? Are you that thinned skin? Nah, I think it reveals a complete inability to create a rebuttal. I mean you are lost. You have no critical thinking skills, no research skills, like I said, you are a psychotic parrot that can't do anything but repeat stupid shit spouted on right wing blogs. And probably worst of all, you hardly ever source the bullshit you trot out here. You are a waste of time and a waste of bandwidth. I just like to bitchslap you every once in a while for shits and giggles. Kind of like a cat playing with a mouse.

You are a poser. You don't have a college education, let alone from an Ivy League school. Your research skills, writing skills, no way you could even get into a B level college. You might could go to a community college, you wouldn't be able to complete the requirements for an associate degree.

From where I sit, you are either a stay at home wife, not a mom. God knows, too self-absorbed for that shit. But of course both those possibilities would require a mate. Or, you got a rich daddy that keeps you up. I mean if anyone is posting from their parent's basement here, it is you.

 

[BackAgain]

Not so odious to me (and I didn't vote for him). This is pretty much his whole thought on the topic.

'You Didn't Build That,' Uncut and Unedited - FactCheck.org

Mitt Romney and his allies have attacked President Barack Obama — often out of context — for saying, “If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen.” American Crossroads posted a 60-second Web video called “Build” that shows small-business owners reacting to...

www.factcheck.org

Right. Odious.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Yes, do you believe Asians are white.

But I got to admit, you are kind of a rarity, Asian and STUPID. Did you parent's drop you on your head? Or was it those private religious schools with dumbass teachers. Obviously, you have some issues.

Do you see my crying about you calling me a Nazi? Are you that thinned skin? Nah, I think it reveals a complete inability to create a rebuttal. I mean you are lost. You have no critical thinking skills, no research skills, like I said, you are a psychotic parrot that can't do anything but repeat stupid shit spouted on right wing blogs. And probably worst of all, you hardly ever source the bullshit you trot out here. You are a waste of time and a waste of bandwidth. I just like to bitchslap you every once in a while for shits and giggles. Kind of like a cat playing with a mouse.

You are a poser. You don't have a college education, let alone from an Ivy League school. Your research skills, writing skills, no way you could even get into a B level college. You might could go to a community college, you wouldn't be able to complete the requirements for an associate degree.

From where I sit, you are either a stay at home wife, not a mom. God knows, too self-absorbed for that shit. But of course both those possibilities would require a mate. Or, you got a rich daddy that keeps you up. I mean if anyone is posting from their parent's basement here, it is you.

Did you write this, Nazi?

"Asian is not white, GTFO."

Forsyth And Trump's Travel Ban post #2