If we banned all guns

[jon_berzerk]

interesting article

Colorado City Pays $25k To Man Arrested For Bringing A Gun To The Movies

A man who was arrested for carrying a holstered handgun into a movie theater a week after the Aurora shootings in 2012 received a $25,000 settlement check from the city of Thornton last week, according to Denver’s 7News.

Jim Mapes had a concealed-carry permit and said he’d carried his gun to the same theater several times in the past. Another theater-goer called 911, saying a man with a weapon had just entered a movie theater. He was originally charged with brandishing the weapon, which Mapes denied.

“It never left my holster,” he told the station. And although the gun was carried openly rather than being concealed, his lawyer said that’s never been against the law in Thornton.

Mapes told Denver’s Fox 31 that he was in the same Thornton theater watching “The Dark Knight Rises” on the night James Holmes opened fire in an Aurora theater across town, killing 12 people and injuring at least 70. He had his gun that night too. Police questioned him, but didn’t arrest him.

“They had me covered, officers behind and on the sides,” he told the station at the time. “Two hundred people in the parking lot but no screaming, no yelling, no scaring the crap out of everybody.”

A week later, the police response was much different, with Mapes saying the police overreacted because of the shooting the week before.

“So where was the problem that they needed to respond in this manner?” he said. “Just this general perceived thing from the shooting the week before.”

His attorney told 7News that the Aurora shooting was no excuse for arresting law-abiding gun owners.

“Coloradans, with the exception of Denver, have had the right to openly carry firearms since 1865,” attorney Robert Wareham said. “We don’t take and use the mood of the moment to take way people’s rights.”

The city eventually dropped the charge, but Mapes sued.

The city settled for $25,000, but admitted no wrongdoing. Wareham said the check itself was evidence that Mapes’ arrest was unwarranted.

“They got to apologize to him in the form of a nice, healthy check,” he told 7News.

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[Wildman]

What is that? Does that make bullets?

Remind me not to take you seriously ever.
Yes, that's a Dillon 550 reloading press. To create live ammunition you need:
Brass, which is reusable from existing ammunition
Bullets, which can be produced from any source of lead, like wheel weights
Powder, which is abundant
Primers, which are hard to make at home but there are billions of them floating around.

People have gone years never buying loaded ammunition, just reloading their own at home. Thus PimpMyRide knows nothing when he talks about banning ammunition.

Primers, which are hard to make

tricky slow but can be done

i have done it

HOW ?

send me a PM..., OK ?

 

[The Rabbi]

Good for him.

 

[NYcarbineer]

No, they will just keep whittling away at what gun we can own, until we are down to .22 smart guns that can be jammed at will. Of course the police will not restrict themselves to the same weapons.

'They' couldn't even get a background check loophole closing past the Senate, and you people wallowing in paranoia think 'they' are going to ban guns wholesale?

Nonsense.

The control battle is in the states now. Jersey has a law on the books stating that if smart guns become a reality they would be the only gun purchasable by people. NY passed the unconstitutional SAFE act, and local courts are just letting it go by.

Bans may not be de jure, but in some localities we are getting to the point that they are de facto. Every part of NYC's gun laws are designed to make it difficult for ANYONE to get a permit for a gun.

Just one question to start:

Does the 2nd amendment protect the right to sell guns?

 

[Wildman]

No one wants to "ban all guns" fool...out of respect for their lethal potential however, there should be reasonable provisions and regs to reduce irresponsible, insane and reckless use of them...
Personally, I feel that all guns must be registered and their owners licensed...
prospective gun owners should undergo training in gun safety and use to qualify for licensure...with gun licenses renewable every two years or so, based on a record clean of criminality, craziness and reckless maintenance and use...including leaving guns around for little kids to get killed with playing...
I don't know any progressive that's against responsible and regulated gun ownership...just the irresponsible and reckless kind that results in senseless death. Only paranoid and insecure numbnuts who substitute gun worship for healthy relationships and respect for the rights of others believe otherwise.


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lets see how this would work if we replaced one three letter word for another ?

No one wants to "ban all cars" fool...out of respect for their lethal potential however, there should be reasonable provisions and regs to reduce irresponsible, insane and reckless use of them...

Personally, I feeeeeel that all cars must be registered and their owners licensed...
prospective car owners should undergo training in car safety and use to qualify for licensure...with car licenses renewable every two years or so, based on a record clean of criminality, craziness and reckless maintenance and use...including leaving cars around for little kids to get killed with playing...

need i continue, or have you seen the light of freedom shining thru the cracks of your stupid liberalism ?

 

[The Rabbi]

'They' couldn't even get a background check loophole closing past the Senate, and you people wallowing in paranoia think 'they' are going to ban guns wholesale?

Nonsense.

The control battle is in the states now. Jersey has a law on the books stating that if smart guns become a reality they would be the only gun purchasable by people. NY passed the unconstitutional SAFE act, and local courts are just letting it go by.

Bans may not be de jure, but in some localities we are getting to the point that they are de facto. Every part of NYC's gun laws are designed to make it difficult for ANYONE to get a permit for a gun.

Just one question to start:

Does the 2nd amendment protect the right to sell guns?

Yes, that's inherent in keeping and bearing them.

 

[NYcarbineer]

The control battle is in the states now. Jersey has a law on the books stating that if smart guns become a reality they would be the only gun purchasable by people. NY passed the unconstitutional SAFE act, and local courts are just letting it go by.

Bans may not be de jure, but in some localities we are getting to the point that they are de facto. Every part of NYC's gun laws are designed to make it difficult for ANYONE to get a permit for a gun.

Just one question to start:

Does the 2nd amendment protect the right to sell guns?

Yes, that's inherent in keeping and bearing them.

So if NJ tries to ban the sale of all non-smart guns it will simply be shot down no pun intended in the courts, thus,

any fearmongering to the contrary is just more propaganda?

 

[Wildman]

When we ban guns, anyone with a gun is a criminal, and we shoot you. Is that obvious enough for you?

Very interesting... Do we shoot all people now who are in criminal possession of a weapon? What country is this you are describing? We don't shoot people for criminal possession, we shoot them because they stole a purse from Macy's or because the no-knock search had the wrong address. ...

We shoot then when they are carrying a gun, and not allowed to.

you fucking idiot ! !, you have said "we shoot..." over 20 times in this thread, in fact i believe you, like all the other insane demoRAT liberfools who mass murdered hundreds of innocent people is about to commit a huge major shooting spree, your local police need to pay you a visit.., or should the big muscle men from the local looney bin who will put you in isolated confinement.

your posts sound just like some of the nut jobs, which BTW, were all liberals/demoncrats, is about to go full whacko nut crazy


ooooh ! !


BTW,

 

[AquaAthena]

"If we banned all guns"

We would be ripe for the pickin`; completely defenseless and asking to be taken.

 

[martybegan]

Just one question to start:

Does the 2nd amendment protect the right to sell guns?

Yes, that's inherent in keeping and bearing them.

So if NJ tries to ban the sale of all non-smart guns it will simply be shot down no pun intended in the courts, thus,

any fearmongering to the contrary is just more propaganda?

It will take years to go through the courts, meanwhile people's rights will be trampled on.

 

[martybegan]

'They' couldn't even get a background check loophole closing past the Senate, and you people wallowing in paranoia think 'they' are going to ban guns wholesale?

Nonsense.

The control battle is in the states now. Jersey has a law on the books stating that if smart guns become a reality they would be the only gun purchasable by people. NY passed the unconstitutional SAFE act, and local courts are just letting it go by.

Bans may not be de jure, but in some localities we are getting to the point that they are de facto. Every part of NYC's gun laws are designed to make it difficult for ANYONE to get a permit for a gun.

Just one question to start:

Does the 2nd amendment protect the right to sell guns?

Yes.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

nice rant. but who wants to ban all guns? i just don't want them in the hands of criminals and crazies.... like most normal people.

I'm okay with banning nearly all of them, and if you have one and aren't in uniform, we shoot you dead no questions asked. Problem solved.

JoeB is off his meds again. Hello Mr. Sock.

Little moron, if I were a sock the Mods would know. You're dead wrong, as usual.

 

[The Rabbi]

Just one question to start:

Does the 2nd amendment protect the right to sell guns?

Yes, that's inherent in keeping and bearing them.

So if NJ tries to ban the sale of all non-smart guns it will simply be shot down no pun intended in the courts, thus,

any fearmongering to the contrary is just more propaganda?

You're not good at this logic thing, are you?
You will still be able to buy guns in NJ. But they must be Smart-technology equipped.

 

[The Rabbi]

I'm okay with banning nearly all of them, and if you have one and aren't in uniform, we shoot you dead no questions asked. Problem solved.

JoeB is off his meds again. Hello Mr. Sock.

Little moron, if I were a sock the Mods would know. You're dead wrong, as usual.

Translation: I'm a sock.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

JoeB is off his meds again. Hello Mr. Sock.

Little moron, if I were a sock the Mods would know. You're dead wrong, as usual.

Translation: I'm a sock.

Translation, you're a moron who believes that you know what you don't. Learn how the Internet works.

 

[sameech]

OK. let's say the Diane Feinsteins of the world got their wish and the US imposed a total ban on guns, no private citizen was allowed to own one. I realize the Supreme Court made that impossible, but let's say it's wet dream week at the DNC.
Then what?
The civil disobesdiance would make Prohibition look like child's play. If the gov't tried to enforce the edict going to house to house they would have a rebellion of major proportions in many places. Sure, not in Commieformia, where men are limp dicks. But in more rural areas, forget it. There isn't an army big enough to enforce that.

OK, so let's say we simply enacted "common sense" gun control like they want. Basically a re-enactment of the Assault Weapons Ban and other provisions like registration of guns, no private sales, etc.
We know what the old AWB did. Nothing. OK, not nothing It drove up the price of hi cap mags and pre ban weapons. It sure didnt stop a single shooting or crime. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over hoping for a different result.
There are over 300M guns in this country. The genie is not going back in the bottle.

If we were to ban all guns, we would then also be banning all bullets and things associated with making bullets. We wouldn't need to round up guns--they would be obsolete in fairly short order.

 

[Katzndogz]

OK. let's say the Diane Feinsteins of the world got their wish and the US imposed a total ban on guns, no private citizen was allowed to own one. I realize the Supreme Court made that impossible, but let's say it's wet dream week at the DNC.
Then what?
The civil disobesdiance would make Prohibition look like child's play. If the gov't tried to enforce the edict going to house to house they would have a rebellion of major proportions in many places. Sure, not in Commieformia, where men are limp dicks. But in more rural areas, forget it. There isn't an army big enough to enforce that.

OK, so let's say we simply enacted "common sense" gun control like they want. Basically a re-enactment of the Assault Weapons Ban and other provisions like registration of guns, no private sales, etc.
We know what the old AWB did. Nothing. OK, not nothing It drove up the price of hi cap mags and pre ban weapons. It sure didnt stop a single shooting or crime. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over hoping for a different result.
There are over 300M guns in this country. The genie is not going back in the bottle.

If we were to ban all guns, we would then also be banning all bullets and things associated with making bullets. We wouldn't need to round up guns--they would be obsolete in fairly short order.

People are making their own bullets now! Jeez Louise, how stupid do you think people are? Instead of drug labs, we'll have ammunition labs.

 

[Nosmo King]

300,000,000 guns. No way to confiscate them all. The Assault Weapons Ban did nothing because the gun lobby insisted on arguing meaningless cosmetics rather than the real problem; the firing and loading systems. The genie is out of the bottle.

Now, gun nuts will tell you that they are armed and ready to fight the government. You know, the Timothy McVeigh argument. Gun nuts will tell you that it is their absolute right to own guns designed for warfare, fitted with semi-automatic firing systems and high capacity ammunition magazines. Presumably, those weapons are absolutely necessary for the upcoming fight against their sons and daughters enlisted in the United States Armed Forces. Or because the gun nuts are fantasizing about being Dirty Harry and fighting off all the bad guys at once. Or they will say that such weapons are needed to shoot the bad guy in a theater or on a playground, as if those venues packed with innocents are the places poorly trained 'marksmen' should spray more bullets around.

The gun nuts will tell you that there are no solutions to the national problem of gun violence. Why? Because they lack the imagination to divine one or they see no connection between guns and gun violence. They will tell you that law abiding citizens own guns and when those guns are used to take lives, those citizens are no longer law abiding and to cast aspersions on the law abiding is an infringement on their rights to own assault weapons.

Oh! And there is no such thing as an assault weapon! They'll dip a toe in the shallow pool of semantics to rationalize their gun lust.

Some folks have pleasant experiences with guns. Like little boys who have graduated from firecrackers, they love pumping out lead. But some folks have had tragic experiences with guns loosing sons, daughters and spouses to gun violence. But those unfortunate souls have no right to speak out about the gun nut's rights. It's intractability at its worst.

So, if you listen to the gun nuts, there's no solution to gun violence. And that's tantamount to saying that their right to own deadly weapons trumps the public's right to health and safety. Listen to the gun nuts. They'll tell you that we must accept the plague of gun violence as the cost of their lust for guns.

 

[Spoonman]

OK. let's say the Diane Feinsteins of the world got their wish and the US imposed a total ban on guns, no private citizen was allowed to own one. I realize the Supreme Court made that impossible, but let's say it's wet dream week at the DNC.
Then what?
The civil disobesdiance would make Prohibition look like child's play. If the gov't tried to enforce the edict going to house to house they would have a rebellion of major proportions in many places. Sure, not in Commieformia, where men are limp dicks. But in more rural areas, forget it. There isn't an army big enough to enforce that.

OK, so let's say we simply enacted "common sense" gun control like they want. Basically a re-enactment of the Assault Weapons Ban and other provisions like registration of guns, no private sales, etc.
We know what the old AWB did. Nothing. OK, not nothing It drove up the price of hi cap mags and pre ban weapons. It sure didnt stop a single shooting or crime. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over hoping for a different result.
There are over 300M guns in this country. The genie is not going back in the bottle.

we couldn't control disention in a country the size of afghanistan. imagine trying to manage it across a country the size of the USA. Especially when more than half of the people you are asking to enforce it would be totally opposed to it.

 

[Spoonman]

OK. let's say the Diane Feinsteins of the world got their wish and the US imposed a total ban on guns, no private citizen was allowed to own one. I realize the Supreme Court made that impossible, but let's say it's wet dream week at the DNC.
Then what?
The civil disobesdiance would make Prohibition look like child's play. If the gov't tried to enforce the edict going to house to house they would have a rebellion of major proportions in many places. Sure, not in Commieformia, where men are limp dicks. But in more rural areas, forget it. There isn't an army big enough to enforce that.

OK, so let's say we simply enacted "common sense" gun control like they want. Basically a re-enactment of the Assault Weapons Ban and other provisions like registration of guns, no private sales, etc.
We know what the old AWB did. Nothing. OK, not nothing It drove up the price of hi cap mags and pre ban weapons. It sure didnt stop a single shooting or crime. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over hoping for a different result.
There are over 300M guns in this country. The genie is not going back in the bottle.

If we were to ban all guns, we would then also be banning all bullets and things associated with making bullets. We wouldn't need to round up guns--they would be obsolete in fairly short order.

making a bullet is easy as hell. actually making a gun is easy as hell too