Zone1 If Voter Fraud Is So Easy, Why is it So Rare?

[the watcher]

False. There is tracking of every ballot.

Good. Go find yours.

 

[candycorn]

Good. Go find yours.

Like nearly every other American, my vote has never been stolen...so there is nothing to find.

 

[alang1216]

Democrats in the states with no voter ID requirements have obviously stolen the hell out of election. They know they can get away with it. Why wouldn't they do it?

I've voted by mail for years so no ID required of me. VA sends me one ballot and I send it back. How would I cast multiple votes if I wanted to? If I tried to vote again in person, I'd have to show a drivers license and it would be easy to see I'd voted twice. Who would risk a felony for one extra vote? Conservatives seem more likely to cheat than Dems since they, like you, they tend to feel it would be justified.

 

[Mashmont]

I've voted by mail for years so no ID required of me. VA sends me one ballot and I send it back. How would I cast multiple votes if I wanted to? If I tried to vote again in person, I'd have to show a drivers license and it would be easy to see I'd voted twice. Who would risk a felony for one extra vote? Conservatives seem more likely to cheat than Dems since they, like you, they tend to feel it would be justified.

I have a friend in California who hadn't voted for several elections, then went to the polls on election day only to be told he'd already voted. What happens is a busload of Miguels from barrios are rounded up, taken to the voting booths, each given the name of the person they will "be", present it to the friendly poll volunteer, then vote. Afterward, they are rewarded with cases of tequila. 30 more straight ticket Democrat votes. Tell me what keeps this from happening.

 

[Mashmont]

There is no proof of any election being stolen. Your argument is as undocumented as it is silly.

Trump got more votes in California than any other state. 6 million votes.

Few (if any) republicans in California reported their ballots being stolen, votes being cast in their name, or any other fraud--few if any reports from the voters, few if any reports from the candidates who lost.

Drilling down deeper into California... 4 of the GOP seats in Congress are held by California republicans who got less than 55% of the vote in 2024. One got 50.3%.

Care to explain how a party that has "stolen the hell" out of elections didn't rig 3-4% more in their favor and let those seats flip/stay red?

Shasta County has very few illegals. They voted Trump 2 to 1. Shazam. What a coincidence.

We were told there wasn't proof OJ killed Nicole, so according to your logic, Nicole wasn't killed.

 

[candycorn]

I have a friend in California who hadn't voted for several elections, then went to the polls on election day only to be told he'd already voted.

Unlikely.

What happens is a busload of Miguels from barrios are rounded up, taken to the voting booths, each given the name of the person they will "be", present it to the friendly poll volunteer, then vote. Afterward, they are rewarded with cases of tequila. 30 more straight ticket Democrat votes. Tell me what keeps this from happening.

All you need is someone willing to:

Put themselves on the line for $750,000 in fines
Put themselves on the line for 90 years in the slammer
A poll worker willing to put themselves into the same situation with the fines and jail time.
and...Someone to buy 30 cases of tequila...

for 30 votes.

Should be easy right?

 

[candycorn]

Shasta County has very few illegals. They voted Trump 2 to 1. Shazam. What a coincidence.

Shasta county?

We were told there wasn't proof OJ killed Nicole, so according to your logic, Nicole wasn't killed.

No. A not-guilty verdict says that the State didn’t make it’s case.

 

[alang1216]

I have a friend in California who hadn't voted for several elections, then went to the polls on election day only to be told he'd already voted. What happens is a busload of Miguels from barrios are rounded up, taken to the voting booths, each given the name of the person they will "be", present it to the friendly poll volunteer, then vote. Afterward, they are rewarded with cases of tequila. 30 more straight ticket Democrat votes. Tell me what keeps this from happening.

I'm guessing you have no evidence this has ever happened, at least in this century.

Here's what it would take to make this happen:

1. Get a list of voters who, like your 'friend', haven't voted in the last few elections
2. Get the voters addresses and polling places
3. Convince both men and women to participate
4. Convince people to risk breaking the law and possible deportation
5. The imposter must be able to pass for the voter: age, sex, ethnicity, language
6. The imposters must hope the voter has not already voted and is not known to the poll official
7. The imposters must memorize both names and addresses of the imposters
8. The imposters can't all appear together getting off the same bus
9. The imposters must walk past any poll watchers from either party
10. If ANY of the imposters are discovered it would be the organizer that would face the worst punishment

 

[martybegan]

Oh? So all of these hundreds of thousands of instances of voter fraud are never reported?

Seems unlikely.

It seemed unlikely to you guys the WuFlu came from a lab.

It seemed likely to you the shots prevented transmission of said WuFlu

It seems likely to you guys that women can have penises.

 

[Mashmont]

I'm guessing you have no evidence this has ever happened, at least in this century.

Here's what it would take to make this happen:

1. Get a list of voters who, like your 'friend', haven't voted in the last few elections
2. Get the voters addresses and polling places
3. Convince both men and women to participate
4. Convince people to risk breaking the law and possible deportation
5. The imposter must be able to pass for the voter: age, sex, ethnicity, language
6. The imposters must hope the voter has not already voted and is not known to the poll official
7. The imposters must memorize both names and addresses of the imposters
8. The imposters can't all appear together getting off the same bus
9. The imposters must walk past any poll watchers from either party
10. If ANY of the imposters are discovered it would be the organizer that would face the worst punishment

1. Easily done.
2. Not necessary.
3. Easily done.
4. No need. They can't get caught.
5. Nope. No questions are asked whatsover. Polling volunteers in blue precincts are remarkably unconcerned.
6. They can just say "Oh, I forgot. Sorry" or they could be like my friend: "This must be a mistake".
7. Wrong. Never asked. But if so, they could memorize or hand them a piece of paper with it written down: "No Ainglish".
8. Why not? OR Drop 'em off a block away. Easily done.
9. Huh?
10 Friendly cooperative volunteers in deep blue precincts are happily unconcerned.

 

[Mashmont]

Shasta county?

No. A not-guilty verdict says that the State didn’t make it’s case.

According to you, if they can't prove she was murdered, then she wasn't.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Shasta county?

No. A not-guilty verdict says that the State didn’t make it’s case.

The state made its case. The defense just created a smoke screen abetted by a star-struck judge. OJ was a case of unequal justice for the rich and powerful.

 

[alang1216]

I'm guessing you have no evidence this has ever happened, at least in this century.

I was right, you're pulling this out of your butt. And doing a very poor job of it.

Here's what it would take to make this happen:

1. Get a list of voters who, like your 'friend', haven't voted in the last few elections
2. Get the voters addresses and polling places
3. Convince both men and women to participate
4. Convince people to risk breaking the law and possible deportation
5. The imposter must be able to pass for the voter: age, sex, ethnicity, language
6. The imposters must hope the voter has not already voted and is not known to the poll official
7. The imposters must memorize both names and addresses of the imposters
8. The imposters can't all appear together getting off the same bus
9. The imposters must walk past any poll watchers from either party
10. If ANY of the imposters are discovered it would be the organizer that would face the worst punishment

1. Easily done.
2. Not necessary.
3. Easily done.
4. No need. They can't get caught.
5. Nope. No questions are asked whatsover. Polling volunteers in blue precincts are remarkably unconcerned.
6. They can just say "Oh, I forgot. Sorry" or they could be like my friend: "This must be a mistake".
7. Wrong. Never asked. But if so, they could memorize or hand them a piece of paper with it written down: "No Ainglish".
8. Why not? OR Drop 'em off a block away. Easily done.
9. Huh?
10 Friendly cooperative volunteers in deep blue precincts are happily unconcerned.

1. Takes time and effort
2. Absolutely necessary, you can't go to just any polling place and vote in VA
3. Takes time and effort
4. Easily said if you're not taking a risk
5. You know that how? So if a man walks in and says he is Jane Smith, no one will bat an eye? Risky.
6. Suspicious
7. Wrong. They need to be checked against a voter roll.
8. Sure, no one will notice.
9. At our polling place there are usually people from both parties handing out flyers at the door.
10 You know that how?

 

[Mr. Friscus]

There's been so many suspicious events in swing states recently that we need to tighten up our voting process. We need to federalize federal election voting, and simply look at how Florida does it.

Huge state, they get their results in the night of the election.

Taking weeks and weeks only opens the door to manipulation. There's no reason to not care other than you know deep down your side does it, and benefits from it.

I want lockdown protected voting in all 50 states. I'm impartial.

 

[progressive hunter]

It isn't that there are just so few arrests for voter fraud, it's also that there are so few duplicate ballots and that the down-ballot races rarely (if ever) show any massive voter fraud as well.

What is not discussed because the Presidency dominates so much of the discussion about voter fraud is that each and every voter is represented by a Senator and a US Congressperson. So if there is massive voter fraud in Nebraska's first district or Calfornia's 20th, there would be outsized numbers in both of those districts as well. Yet the losers in those districts never seem to cry foul very often.

What also isn't happening is massive complaints about persons showing up to the polls and being told that they already votes OR subsequent visits by state elections officials who wonder why Jane Doe voted twice--once by the alleged nefarious creature who supposedly voted in her name and then by the actual Jane Doe who went to the polls as she has done every year for decades. Or as described below, multiple ballots being mailed to the same house...

Some people went to vote, but were told they'd already cast ballots. Here's why.

Some Californians say when they went to cast their ballot in the recall election, they were told they already voted. Caption: Full report that aired in FOX26's 10:00 p. m. newscast It turns out, that happens every election. There are a number of reasons as to why. In Los Angeles County...

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If the alleged fraud was so rampant, there wouldn't be these itemized stories about such fraud.

Moreover, if it were so easy, clearly, the parties would institute sophisticated mechanisms to take advantage of the alleged loopholes. But that hasn't happened either.

Why?

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Like nearly every other American, my vote has never been stolen...so there is nothing to find.

I've never been murdered, so it doesn't happen, and why is anyone concerned about it??

 

[candycorn]

I've never been murdered, so it doesn't happen, and why is anyone concerned about it??

LLC (Laughably Lame Comparison).

Murders are reported in the news when reported. Voter fraud is seldom reported.

If it’s so widespread...why does it happen so rarely.

 

[candycorn]

I was right, you're pulling this out of your butt. And doing a very poor job of it.





1. Takes time and effort
2. Absolutely necessary, you can't go to just any polling place and vote in VA
3. Takes time and effort
4. Easily said if you're not taking a risk
5. You know that how? So if a man walks in and says he is Jane Smith, no one will bat an eye? Risky.
6. Suspicious
7. Wrong. They need to be checked against a voter roll.
8. Sure, no one will notice.
9. At our polling place there are usually people from both parties handing out flyers at the door.
10 You know that how?

Well, he was proceeding forward on the premise that the entire voting apparatus was fine with the fraud as well. You’re absolutely right about all of the individual hurdles.

He may as well have said, “You get a truck, drive up to Fort Knox, there are sympathetic guards on duty...you drive off with the national gold stockplie...tell me why this couldn’t happen!"

 

[Oddball]

 

[Mashmont]

Unlikely.



All you need is someone willing to:

Put themselves on the line for $750,000 in fines
Put themselves on the line for 90 years in the slammer
A poll worker willing to put themselves into the same situation with the fines and jail time.
and...Someone to buy 30 cases of tequila...

for 30 votes.

Should be easy right?

Who do think is going to squeal in these bright blue districts? Who do you think is going to ask for ID when the state made it illegal to do so?