If science discovers that Israeli Jews are not the Jews of the Bible

[Phoenall]

Alex jones...'If you want to kill jews you will have to kill me"

eots, you can post ten thousand videos. It doesn't mean that you are not the anti-Semite that many of us know you to be.

He does not realise that posting the video's is in itself anti semitic and racist

 

[Roudy]

Scientists usually don’t call each other “liars” and “frauds.”

But that’s how Johns Hopkins University post-doctoral researcher Eran Elhaik describes a group of widely respected geneticists, including Harry Ostrer, professor of pathology and genetics at Yeshiva University’s Albert Einstein College of Medicine and author of the 2012 book “Legacy: A Genetic History of the Jewish People.”

Jews a Race Genetic Theory Comes Under Fierce Attack by DNA Expert Forward.com


Read more: Jews a Race Genetic Theory Comes Under Fierce Attack by DNA Expert Forward.com

Didn't he have to back down when the full details were shown and that he had used flawed methods

Nope, he's still going strong. His methods were criticised by the usual suspects, but that's to be expected; reputations at stake and all that. He's one of many scientists that are taking another look at genetic studies carried out by Jewish geneticists, that tried to "prove" a genetic link to ancient Hebrews. Shlomo Sand has described some of these "studies" as loosing an arrow, seeing where it lands and then painting the target around it, to score a bullseye.

Ha ha ha. Shlomo Sand is an author not a geneticist, and far from an authority on Jewish heritage and ancestry, he's just an Israeli leftist nutjob who makes money bashing his country. We have them here too.

Not an author, an Emeritus Professor. Not a geneticist, true but knows enough about how Zionism perverts science to follow it's political ideology to comment on it. Certainly left wing in his views, but that's got nothing to do with his scholarship. http://humanities.tau.ac.il/segel/shlomosa/

He should stick to things he knows about. Like spreading leftist bullshit, and leave history to the historians, and science to the scientists.

 

[Roudy]

Science has confirmed the linkage between today's Jews and the ancient Hebrews many times.

Common genetic threads link thousands of years of Jewish ancestry -- ScienceDaily

Common genetic threads link thousands of years of Jewish ancestry

"Previous genetic studies of blood group and serum markers suggested that Jewish groups had Middle Eastern origin with greater genetic similarity between paired Jewish populations," says senior study author, Dr. Harry Ostrer, professor of pediatrics, pathology and medicine and director of the Human Genetics Program at NYU Langone Medical Center.

"Our study demonstrated that the studied Jewish populations represent a series of geographical isolates or clusters with genetic threads that weave them together," added Dr. Gil Atzmonl assistant professor of medicine and genetics at Albert Einstein College of Medicine of Yeshiva University, the study's lead author. "These threads were observed as identical strands of DNA that were shared within and between Jewish groups. Thus, over the past 3000 years, both the flow of genes and the flow of religious and cultural ideas have contributed to Jewishness."

To better understand the relatedness of current Jewish groups, Dr. Ostrer and colleagues performed a genome wide analysis of Iranian, Iraqi, Syrian, Italian, Turkish, Greek and Ashkenazi Jews and compared these results with non-Jewish groups. The researchers identified distinct Jewish population clusters that each exhibited a shared Middle Eastern ancestry, proximity to contemporary Middle Eastern populations and variable degrees of European and North African genetic intermingling.

The history of Jewish people could be found in their genomes. The two major groups, Middle Eastern Jews and European Jews, were timed to have diverged from each other approximately 2500 years ago. Southern European populations show the greatest proximity to Ashkenazi, Sephardic and Italian Jews, reflecting the large-scale southern European conversion and admixture known to have occurred over 2,000 years ago during the formation of the European Jewry. An apparent North African ancestry component was also observed as was present in the Sephardic groups potentially reflecting gene flow from Moorish to Jewish populations in Spain from 711 to 1492. The structure of the genomes of Ashkenazi Jewish populations indicates a severe bottleneck followed by expansion during the 19th century when the Jewish population in western and eastern Europe increased about twice as fast as the non-Jewish population. This has been referred to as "the demographic miracle." Within every Jewish group, there was a high degree of relatedness between any two of its members. For Ashkenazi Jews, the relatedness was similar to what one might observe for fifth cousins.

Dr. Ostrer noted, "The study supports the idea of a Jewish people linked by a shared genetic history. Yet the admixture with European people explains why so many European and Syrian Jews have blue eyes and blonde hair. "

The researchers include Gil Atzmon, Albert Einstein College of Medicine, Bronx, NY, Albert Einstein College of Medicine, Bronx, NY; Li Hao, New York University School of Medicine, New York, NY; Itsik Pe'er, Columbia University, New York, NY; Christopher Velez, New York University School of Medicine, New York, NY; Alexander Pearlman, New York University School of Medicine, New York, NY; Pier Francesco Palamara, Columbia University, New York, NY; Bernice Morrow, Albert Einstein College of Medicine, Bronx, NY; Eitan Friedman, Tel-Aviv University, Tel-Aviv, Israel; Carole Oddoux, New York University School of Medicine, New York, NY; Edward Burns, Albert Einstein College of Medicine, Bronx, NY; and Harry Ostrer, New York University School of Medicine, New York, NY.

Out of date study.

Rrrrright. Like I said, it's been researched and studied a million times. No need to keep researching the obvious, like whether blacks came from Africa.

 

[Roudy]

do you stay or go?

So what?

There is no way to definitively know events that took place over 3000 years or more ago and it's irrelevent to what's going on today.

But as we all know, there are some here (like Eots and theLiq) who are obsessed with Jooos and the centuries old anti-Semitic movement to discredit, discard, dismember, or otherwise dis them. We even have a name for these posters.

Yup.

Each side tries to use genetics to claim one or the other are "foreigners". They aren't. Jews have maintained a presence there for thousands of years. So have "Palestinians". Essentially - it's brothers squabbling with brothers over the same piece of land. Genetics are fascinating in and of themselves but useless in trying to establish territorial claims based on events thousands of years ago and arguments based on them are transparent attempts to disenfranchise one or the other groups.

Yet...people spend an inordinate amount of time on it

there is no such thing as a "palestinian". they were jordanians

now get your history right.

No such thing as a Jordanian until 1946 or an Israeli until 1948, before that they were all Palestinians.

Actually Palestinians are an invention as well. They called themselves Arabs just like their neighbors. Your statement is partially true because Jordan was supposed to be Arab Palestine.

 

[Roudy]

Alex jones...'If you want to kill jews you will have to kill me"

eots, you can post ten thousand videos. It doesn't mean that you are not the anti-Semite that many of us know you to be.

Alex Jones is a moron and an antisemite, who makes money off spreading Jew hate. Nothing new here.

 

[eots]

do you stay or go?...

This isn't about genetics.

This is about establishing and sustaining a homeland based upon religious and spiritual affinity.

Now that genetics (and science) have been taken out of the equation, the question is now moot.

Next slide, please.

So if genetics have been taken out of the equation what greater right does a european immigrant have over the millions of palestinians living there ?

Simple the right of land ownership bequeathed by the lands legal owners at the time. So the fact the Jews of the world were given citizenship by the land owners means that they have a greater right than some nomadic squatters that came on the promise of work

So they were brought in for cheap labor like we do with Mexicans ...you say nomads
was the area in question part of the area they traditional traveled to or through..I thought you said they lived in Jordan ?

 

[eots]

Alex jones...'If you want to kill jews you will have to kill me"

eots, you can post ten thousand videos. It doesn't mean that you are not the anti-Semite that many of us know you to be.

LOL YOU SOUND CRAZY

 

[Phoenall]

do you stay or go?...

This isn't about genetics.

This is about establishing and sustaining a homeland based upon religious and spiritual affinity.

Now that genetics (and science) have been taken out of the equation, the question is now moot.

Next slide, please.

So if genetics have been taken out of the equation what greater right does a european immigrant have over the millions of palestinians living there ?

Simple the right of land ownership bequeathed by the lands legal owners at the time. So the fact the Jews of the world were given citizenship by the land owners means that they have a greater right than some nomadic squatters that came on the promise of work

So they were brought in for cheap labor like we do with Mexicans ...you say nomads
was the area in question part of the area they traditional traveled to or through..I thought you said they lived in Jordan ?

They brought themselves as the Jews paid better than the arab muslims when the work was there. Yes that is what they were nomadic farm workers that moved around following the work. They heard about the work available of Jewish farms and so came looking for the work. It was not their normal route at all as they avoided Palestine like the plague due to the work being so hard, that is why the Ottomans could not get the arab muslims to migrate and settle in Palestine.
No I said they came from all over, but some were taken in by Jordan in 1950 and kicked out again in 1970

 

[Hossfly]

Alex jones...'If you want to kill jews you will have to kill me"

eots, you can post ten thousand videos. It doesn't mean that you are not the anti-Semite that many of us know you to be.

LOL YOU SOUND CRAZY

You are the one who sounds mentally ill in your Jew hatred. Why not stick to making lousy music with your band instead of showing the readers how anti-Semitic you are?

 

[SAYIT]

Alex jones...'If you want to kill jews you will have to kill me"

eots, you can post ten thousand videos. It doesn't mean that you are not the anti-Semite that many of us know you to be.

LOL YOU SOUND CRAZY

You sound like a typical skinhead. Given that and your obvious pride in it I don't get your denials. I mean, you don't exactly try to hide your mindless hatred.

 

[eots]

Alex jones...'If you want to kill jews you will have to kill me"

eots, you can post ten thousand videos. It doesn't mean that you are not the anti-Semite that many of us know you to be.

LOL YOU SOUND CRAZY

You are the one who sounds mentally ill in your Jew hatred. Why not stick to making lousy music with your band instead of showing the readers how anti-Semitic you are?

Hate Jews ?....why would I hate Jews...there are many Jews that are wonderful people..no Jewish person has ever wronged me personally..I do not hate Jews..thats just silly

 

[eots]

Alex jones...'If you want to kill jews you will have to kill me"

eots, you can post ten thousand videos. It doesn't mean that you are not the anti-Semite that many of us know you to be.

LOL YOU SOUND CRAZY

You sound like a typical skinhead. Given that and your obvious pride in it I don't get your denials. I mean, you don't exactly try to hide your mindless hatred.

do not hate Jews...do not like Nazis....you sound like a crazy person

 

[eots]

Alex jones...'If you want to kill jews you will have to kill me"

eots, you can post ten thousand videos. It doesn't mean that you are not the anti-Semite that many of us know you to be.

LOL YOU SOUND CRAZY

You are the one who sounds mentally ill in your Jew hatred. Why not stick to making lousy music with your band instead of showing the readers how anti-Semitic you are?

here is one just for you

 

[SAYIT]

Alex jones...'If you want to kill jews you will have to kill me"

eots, you can post ten thousand videos. It doesn't mean that you are not the anti-Semite that many of us know you to be.

LOL YOU SOUND CRAZY

You sound like a typical skinhead. Given that and your obvious pride in it I don't get your denials. I mean, you don't exactly try to hide your mindless hatred.

do not hate Jews...do not like Nazis....you sound like a crazy person

Your hate is obvious, Princess, so why the lame denials?

 

[aris2chat]

Alex jones...'If you want to kill jews you will have to kill me"

eots, you can post ten thousand videos. It doesn't mean that you are not the anti-Semite that many of us know you to be.

LOL YOU SOUND CRAZY

You are the one who sounds mentally ill in your Jew hatred. Why not stick to making lousy music with your band instead of showing the readers how anti-Semitic you are?

here is one just for you

We can see how eots exudes such intelligence. A shining example of the highest form of mycoplasma.

bravo

 

[eots]

Alex jones...'If you want to kill jews you will have to kill me"

eots, you can post ten thousand videos. It doesn't mean that you are not the anti-Semite that many of us know you to be.

LOL YOU SOUND CRAZY

You sound like a typical skinhead. Given that and your obvious pride in it I don't get your denials. I mean, you don't exactly try to hide your mindless hatred.

do not hate Jews...do not like Nazis....you sound like a crazy person

Your hate is obvious, Princess, so why the lame denials?

So obvious to the delusional perhaps...

 

[eots]

Alex jones...'If you want to kill jews you will have to kill me"

eots, you can post ten thousand videos. It doesn't mean that you are not the anti-Semite that many of us know you to be.

LOL YOU SOUND CRAZY

You are the one who sounds mentally ill in your Jew hatred. Why not stick to making lousy music with your band instead of showing the readers how anti-Semitic you are?

here is one just for you

We can see how eots exudes such intelligence. A shining example of the highest form of mycoplasma.

bravo

Who is we..you and your band of merry men ?

 

[aris2chat]

eots, you can post ten thousand videos. It doesn't mean that you are not the anti-Semite that many of us know you to be.

LOL YOU SOUND CRAZY

You are the one who sounds mentally ill in your Jew hatred. Why not stick to making lousy music with your band instead of showing the readers how anti-Semitic you are?

here is one just for you

We can see how eots exudes such intelligence. A shining example of the highest form of mycoplasma.

bravo

Who is we..you and your band of merry men ?

You upset by a compliment? You would prefer and insult?
.............or you just like to dish them to other members

 

[eots]

LOL YOU SOUND CRAZY

You are the one who sounds mentally ill in your Jew hatred. Why not stick to making lousy music with your band instead of showing the readers how anti-Semitic you are?

here is one just for you

We can see how eots exudes such intelligence. A shining example of the highest form of mycoplasma.

bravo

Who is we..you and your band of merry men ?

You upset by a compliment? You would prefer and insult?
.............or you just like to dish them to other members

Hardly an answer to the question.. who is this we you speak of ?

 

[Hossfly]

Alex jones...'If you want to kill jews you will have to kill me"

eots, you can post ten thousand videos. It doesn't mean that you are not the anti-Semite that many of us know you to be.

LOL YOU SOUND CRAZY

You are the one who sounds mentally ill in your Jew hatred. Why not stick to making lousy music with your band instead of showing the readers how anti-Semitic you are?

Hate Jews ?....why would I hate Jews...there are many Jews that are wonderful people..no Jewish person has ever wronged me personally..I do not hate Jews..thats just silly

eots is like the person who is a Jew hater, but when called that says some of his best friends are Jews.
Now I hope eots is going to start a thread with the heading of If science discovers that the so-called Palestinians are actually from the surrounding Middle East countries, should they go back to where they came from? He can even throw in Texe Marrs opinion about this.