Zone1 If Jesus Was A Jew

[hobelim]

Yes. That's one of the main reasons Jesus was worshipped as God.

No thats why you worship the antichrist. You have failed to understand that the miracles were not supernatural demonstrations of divine power over reality. That would be quite delusional.

Jesus was just a man who was sent by God to reveal the hidden meaning of the Law.

Teachers by teaching miraculously open the eyes of the blind every day all around the world.

 

[ding]

No thats why you worship the antichrist. You have failed to understand that the miracles were not supernatural demonstrations of divine power over reality. That would be quite delusional.

I think I'll go with the evidence from Josephus, Pliny, Lucian and Tacitus rather than your unsupported conspiracy theory.

Ancient Evidence for Jesus from Non-Christian Sources

Do any other ancient documents help to confirm the trustworthiness of the New Testament?

www.bethinking.org

 

[ding]

You have failed to understand that the miracles were not supernatural demonstrations of divine power over reality. That would be quite delusional.

Then what is your belief on the 87 miracles listed in the Old Testament?

https://www.wilfredgraves.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/List-of-Miracles-Old-Testament.pdf

 

[hobelim]

Then what is your belief on the 87 miracles listed in the Old Testament?

Like Elijah bringing a boy back from the dead by performing CPR?

Or Elijah being "taken up to heaven" in a whirlwind, a euphemism for his murder by a mob?

The ten plagues all of which can be attributed to a logical sequence of natural events?

People sustained by Manna from heaven, the food of angels, a metaphor for Divine instruction?

Ezekiel flying from Babylon to Jerusalem by an angel holding his hair only to dig through 13 feet of stone with his bare hands to see the temple corruption which was just an account of a dream?

You have been diverted by superstitious archaic lore. Your defiled and contaminated mind has been carried away into la la land by specious lies inspired by demons that have taken root in your unrestrained imagination where you remain tormented day and night, a prisoner of delusions at odds with the reality that you have been living in since birth which contradict your 'beliefs' day and night like a consuming fire that will never go out which fits perfectly the depictions of hell.

Is it any wonder why you "believe" that bread made by human hands is spiritual food? Stunad!

Damn.

 

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Like Elijah bringing a boy back from the dead by performing CPR?

Or Elijah being "taken up to heaven" in a whirlwind, a euphemism for his murder by a mob?

The ten plagues all of which can be attributed to a logical sequence of natural events?

People sustained by Manna from heaven, the food of angels, a metaphor for Divine instruction?

Ezekiel flying from Babylon to Jerusalem by an angel holding his hair only to dig through 13 feet of stone with his bare hands to see the temple corruption which was just an account of a dream?

You have been diverted by superstitious archaic lore. Your defiled and contaminated mind has been carried away into la la land by specious lies inspired by demons that have taken root in your unrestrained imagination where you remain tormented day and night, a prisoner of delusions at odds with the reality that you have been living in since birth which contradict your 'beliefs' day and night like a consuming fire that will never go out which fits perfectly the depictions of hell.

Is it any wonder why you "believe" that bread made by human hands is spiritual food? Stunad!

Damn.

So you don't believe in any divine intervention or miracles at all? None? Not one?

 

[hobelim]

So you don't believe in any divine intervention or miracles at all? None? Not one?

Wrong. You don't understand. Go figure. A Divine miracle would be the dead hearing the voice of the Son of God and rising from their graves, a man born blind gaining sight, perception, a person paralyzed by fear becoming fearless, the lame walking, the coward becoming brave, etc., etc.

Since you are guilty of idolatry, dead, and under a curse, FOR DECADES, only Divine intervention could open your mind to the stupidity of seeking spiritual life from bread made by human hands.

If you are not judged worthy of the resurrection and you spent the rest of your life as an idolator, blind, deaf, dead, and cursed, your life in hell won't be any worse than your life has already been.

See?

My God isn't such a sadistic meanie. No burning in sulfurous flames for all eternity when you die.

But then you'll be judged according to your own words and deeds. Destruction should terrify you.

 

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Wrong. You don't understand. Go figure. A Divine miracle would be the dead hearing the voice of the Son of God and rising from their graves, a man born blind gaining sight, perception, a person paralyzed by fear becoming fearless, the lame walking, the coward becoming brave, etc., etc.

Since you are guilty of idolatry, dead, and under a curse, FOR DECADES, only Divine intervention could open your mind to the stupidity of seeking spiritual life from bread made by human hands.

If you are not judged worthy of the resurrection and you spent the rest of your life as an idolator, blind, deaf, dead, and cursed, your life in hell won't be any worse than your life has already been.

See?

My God isn't such a sadistic meanie. No burning in sulfurous flames for all eternity when you die.

But then you'll be judged according to your own words and deeds. Destruction should terrify you.

I do understand. I understand that you don't believe in miracles period. That any so called miracle described in the bible was not a divine act of God but merely a metaphor. Seems like you are trying to secularize the bible to me.

 

[hobelim]

I do understand. I understand that you don't believe in miracles period. That any so called miracle described in the bible was not a divine act of God but merely a metaphor. Seems like you are trying to secularize the bible to me.

No you don't understand. You are subject to the Law of God. True? You are an idolator. Whatever you profess to believe is going on at Mass the practice itself is idolatry, a brazen defiance of the 1st command under penalty of death. If God is God then you are dead and under a curse. Simple.

So I will tell you again;

"Since you are guilty of idolatry, dead, and under a curse, FOR DECADES, only Divine intervention could open your mind to the stupidity of seeking spiritual life from bread made by human hands."

So I do believe in Divine condemnation thanks to "believers" just like you, and I believe in Divine intervention revealed by the healing power of repentance and the forgiveness granted to anyone who admits their error and bears fruit worthy of repentance which is where you have no faith.

If you did you wouldn't continue to promote as good what God has forbidden or practice idolatry

But thats just you. Many dead have risen from their graves and are standing all around watching which is evidence of Divine intervention; healing very sick minds, bringing the dead back to life.

You understand neither scripture nor the power of God.

 

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No you don't understand. You are subject to the Law of God. True? You are an idolator. Whatever you profess to believe is going on at Mass the practice itself is idolatry, a brazen defiance of the 1st command under penalty of death. If God is God then you are dead and under a curse. Simple.

So I will tell you again;

"Since you are guilty of idolatry, dead, and under a curse, FOR DECADES, only Divine intervention could open your mind to the stupidity of seeking spiritual life from bread made by human hands."

So I do believe in Divine condemnation thanks to "believers" just like you, and I believe in Divine intervention revealed by the healing power of repentance and the forgiveness granted to anyone who admits their error and bears fruit worthy of repentance which is where you have no faith.

If you did you wouldn't continue to promote as good what God has forbidden or practice idolatry

But thats just you. Many dead have risen from their graves and are standing all around watching which is evidence of Divine intervention; healing very sick minds, bringing the dead back to life.

You understand neither scripture nor the power of God.

So no divine acts of God whatsoever occured in the Old or New Testaments? Am I understanding you correctly?

 

[ding]

You understand neither scripture nor the power of God.

According to you there is no power of God. According to you, God hasn't done shit.

 

[ding]

I believe in Divine intervention revealed by the healing power of repentance and the forgiveness granted to anyone who admits their error and bears fruit worthy of repentance which is where you have no faith.

Sounds like ordinary everyday run of the mill stuff there. Nothing really divine there at all.

 

[hobelim]

So no divine acts of God whatsoever occured in the Old or New Testaments? Am I understanding you correctly?

No.

 

[hobelim]

According to you there is no power of God. According to you, God hasn't done shit.

Wrong. I said that you understand neither scripture nor the power of God.

My God has abandoned you to your folly. You are dead and in hell and you can't do a damn thing about it. There aren't enough matzos to eat in the entire world that will help you understand at all.

Crying won't help. Prayer will do you no good..

 

[hobelim]

Seems like you are trying to secularize the bible to me.

You do know that everything reported in the Bible happened here on planet earth, don't you?

You have failed to include reality in your speculations, that is, if you can think rationally at all.

They pay no heed to the real hidden meaning of things but divert themselves instead with all kinds of iniquitous arcane lore. They do not know the hidden meaning of what is actually taking place, nor have they ever understood the lessons of the past. Consequently, they have no knowledge of what is coming upon them and have done nothing to save their souls from the deeper implications of present events."

 

[hobelim]

So no divine acts of God whatsoever occured in the Old or New Testaments?

Don't be silly. The entire Bible is filled with accounts of Divine acts of my God.

They are just not about supernatural demonstrations of Divine power over reality, but power over the minds and lives of people, whether for good or evil, a blessing or a curse, life or death.

 

[ding]

No.

Name them. Unless you are just going to repeat what you already said. Because in that case your answer is really yes. Which I already knew.

 

[ding]

Wrong. I said that you understand neither scripture nor the power of God.

My God has abandoned you to your folly. You are dead and in hell and you can't do a damn thing about it. There aren't enough matzos to eat in the entire world that will help you understand at all.

Crying won't help. Prayer will do you no good..

Not wrong. According to you, your God hasn't and doesn't do jack shit. Name one thing God has done.

 

[ding]

You do know that everything reported in the Bible happened here on planet earth, don't you?

You have failed to include reality in your speculations, that is, if you can think rationally at all.

They pay no heed to the real hidden meaning of things but divert themselves instead with all kinds of iniquitous arcane lore. They do not know the hidden meaning of what is actually taking place, nor have they ever understood the lessons of the past. Consequently, they have no knowledge of what is coming upon them and have done nothing to save their souls from the deeper implications of present events."

According to you God has no power.

 

[ding]

Don't be silly. The entire Bible is filled with accounts of Divine acts of my God.

They are just not about supernatural demonstrations of Divine power over reality, but power over the minds and lives of people, whether for good or evil, a blessing or a curse, life or death.

None of which you believe occurred. According to you God has no power.

 

[irosie91]

None of which you believe occurred. According to you God has no power.

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