Zone1 If Jesus Was A Jew

[Carl in Michigan]

I don't view it with contempt though some have tried to force the evolution of the word to make it more slanderous that its literal meanings

 

[Carl in Michigan]

I don't view it with contempt though some have tried to force the evolution of the word to make it more slanderous that its literal meanings. It really just means "non-Jewish person" or those of "a foreign nation" per se. It's no different than many words in which over time people use in a derogatory form but it betrays the meaning and usage as found in biblical text. I refer to the biblical text and historic writing in such instances.

Even in the book of Genesis it is referred: In 12:2 "descendants will form a goy gadal" which means great nation. Judaism requires the finding of G-d by the non-Jew among other pursuits.

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[SweetSue92]

From the Creation until Jesus:
No one has ascended into heaven except he who descended from heaven, the Son of Man.

After the Millennial Reign of Jesus and the Resurrected Saints ON THE EARTH:

And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.

You said, and I quote, "the reward of the saved is NOT heaven". Nothing above clarifies or refutes your statement. Which is wrong, btw

 

[SweetSue92]

Jesus' blood is the sign of the New Covenant--repentance for the forgiveness of sins. His was the final sacrifice, the sign that sins are forgiven. Those of you who forget this while seeing Jesus' work as merely paying a debt you owe, miss out on the rest of what he was teaching.

Who's sins are forgiven?

 

[Carl in Michigan]

The answer to the OP IS:
Jesus was born of the Tribe of Judah.
Jew means JUDAH
If you're not of the Tribe of Judah, you're not a Jew.

And, not all Jews practice
Judaism. Some are Atheists, a few are "Christian"

 

[Carl in Michigan]

You said, and I quote, "the reward of the saved is NOT heaven". Nothing above clarifies or refutes your statement. Which is wrong, btw

Of course it does
The last Scripture I quoted states, AT THE END OF ALL THIS, the Father will make His home ON THE EARTH.

Before that, Jesus, and the resurrected saints will reign IN JERUSALEM for 1,000 years. Last I checked, Jerusalem is ON THE EARTH

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Those of you who forget this while seeing Jesus' work as merely paying a debt you owe, miss out on the rest of what he was teaching.

That's a misrepresentation at best. It doesn't absolve you of the fact that you are telling people that you can be saved without the blood of Christ.

 

[Lisa558]

Who's sins are forgiven?

Everyone who recognizes their wrongdoing and atones for their sins. Gd is very forgiving.

 

[Lisa558]

That's a misrepresentation at best. It doesn't absolve you of the fact that you are telling people that you can be saved without the blood of Christ.

Oh stop it. Jews are “saved” if they’ve lived good lives and atoned for their sins. You complain about the word goy, and then insult every non-Christian on the planet.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Oh stop it. Jews are “saved” if they’ve lived good lives and atoned for their sins. You complain about the word goy, and then insult every non-Christian on the planet.

I'm talking to The Catholic who is a ashamed of her church's teaching, not you.

But no. They are not. But they will be:
"All Israel shall be saved" Romans 11:26

 

[Lisa558]

I'm talking to The Catholic who are an ashamed of her church's teaching, not you.

Your mean Merriweather? I assume she’s Christian. Why do you identify her as Catholic, as if that’s something different?

 

[Lisa558]

I'm talking to The Catholic who are a ashamed of her church's teaching, not you.

Also, being polite to Jews - rather than smack their over the head with Jesus this and Jesus that - does not mean she’s ashamed of your church’s teaching.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Oh stop it. Jews are “saved” if they’ve lived good lives and atoned for their sins

Sins can't be paid except through blood. All have sinned. You cannot pay for your own sins except the ultimate penalty. That's why someone greater than yourself had to pay -- redeem you

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Also, being polite to Jews - rather than smack their over the head with Jesus this and Jesus that - does not mean she’s ashamed of your church’s teaching.

Being polite is one thing, but when you cave and deny Christ before men, because you want to "get along", that's a whole different matter

But whoever denies Me before men, I will also deny him before My Father in heaven

 

[Woodznutz]

This is not your problem with the Christian religion nor with any other religion. Jesus - true god from true god - is the way, the truth and the life. He is this - not you, not I nor anyone else. Who comes to the father decides Jesus, the son of god. So the US-American slogan "in god we trust" ist nicht der schlechteste Wahlspruch ... ahem - sorry ... "is not the worst slogan" - what means in your US-American form to use English: "is the very greatest slogan at all since the USA is existing or latest since life was created."

In God we trust. All others pay cash.

 

[Lisa558]

Being polite is one thing, but when you cave and deny Christ before men, because you want to "get along", that's a whole different matter

But whoever denies Me before men, I will also deny him before My Father in heaven

I don’t hear her denying Jesus. She just understands how arrogant it is to keep quoting New Testament verses to Jews who have already made clear that these comments attributed to Jesus run in opposition to the teachings of Judaism and don’t want to hear it.

And yet….here you are.

 

[Woodznutz]

For me, one of Jesus' most powerful teachings is that the Kingdom of God is near and that it is eternal. Many of us have more concern over living through the troubles of the present life, that the pie in the sky of the future is of no help at all. It is amazing to discover that the Kingdom of God begins right here on earth, in our present life, and it will extend on into eternity. Heaven will be amazing, but an amazing future is sometimes cold comfort in the midst of the troubles of this life. Kingdom living in the here and now is what comforts.

"Kingdom living" here solves most of those problems.

 

[Woodznutz]

I don’t hear her denying Jesus. She just understands how arrogant it is to keep quoting New Testament verses to Jews who have already made clear that these comments attributed to Jesus run in opposition to the teachings of Judaism and don’t want to hear it.

And yet….here you are.

The teachings of Jesus are antithetical to Judaism, not opposite.

 

[Woodznutz]

Well, Jews have direct lineage to Abraham while the "goy" do not.

All the descendants of Jacob/Israel have a direct lineage to Abraham. "Not a grain will fall to earth."