Zone1 If Jesus Was A Jew

[irosie91]

No. Logic. I've explained the logic to you at least twice.

no

 

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"salvation thing" is self-explanatory

Let's pretend it's not since I can't read your mind and you can't read mine. Ball park it for me.

 

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no

Incorrect.

 

[irosie91]

Let's pretend it's not since I can't read your mind and you can't read mine. Ball park it for me.

easy----I attended Sunday School and colored a cartoon of
a "jesus figure" hold a lamb----the wrong color---I did not
use the white crayon because in my experience the white crayon
always attracts colored flecks that render the final product of my
"art" as having a dirty appearance

 

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See the book THE DIVINE COMEDY----for something contemporary---
go to a medical library and seek out 'ethical guides for catholic nurses' ---

I've read the Torah. You shouldn't be throwing any stones.

 

[irosie91]

Incorrect.

not by universal agreement

 

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easy----I attended Sunday School and colored a cartoon of
a "jesus figure" hold a lamb----the wrong color---I did not
use the white crayon because in my experience the white crayon
always attracts colored flecks that render the final product of my
"art" as having a dirty appearance

Get over it already. Life isn't fair. Expect to make sacrifices. Or you could just keep suffering over it.

 

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not by universal agreement

Truth and reality aren't determined by popular vote. They are discovered by people who are free of bias. I don't think you are one of those people.

 

[irosie91]

I've read the Torah. You shouldn't be throwing any stones.

In my entire life, I have never thrown a stone at a living target

 

[irosie91]

Truth and reality aren't determined by popular vote.

true---which is why there is a DEARTH of absolute standards

 

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In my entire life, I have never thrown a stone at a living target

Maybe not a physical stone.

 

[irosie91]

Maybe not a physical stone.

science describes concrete reality----except for things like
photons and positrons and black holes

 

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true---which is why there is a DEARTH of absolute standards

I disagree. There are many good people who hold themselves to the highest standards. If your measure is that everyone must do that, don't hold your breath.

But the point still stands. There is a final state of fact for all things. Unless you'd like to make a moral argument for slavery or rape.

 

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science describes concrete reality----except for things like
photons and positrons and black holes

Clearly you are unaware of the inherent subjectivity in observing all elementary particles which are both waves and particles.

 

[irosie91]

Clearly you are unaware of the inherent subjectivity in observing all elementary particles which are both waves and particles.

fully aware---just not able to clearly conceptualize

 

[irosie91]

I disagree. There are many good people who hold themselves to the highest standards. If your measure is that everyone must do that, don't hold your breath.

But the point still stands. There is a final state of fact for all things. Unless you'd like to make a moral argument for slavery or rape.

for a moral argument for both slavery and rape----see the koran. As
to "many good people who hold themselves to the highest standards---
NAME ONE

 

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fully aware---just not able to clearly conceptualize

If the scientist sets up a wave experiment he gets a wave answer. If he sets up a particle experiment he gets a particle answer. There is the risk of subjectivity in science because human beings are involved.

If you want to change the world, get rid of subjectivity. The world would change overnight.

 

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for a moral argument for both slavery and rape----see the koran. As
to "many good people who hold themselves to the highest standards---
NAME ONE

I'm asking you because you are the one arguing against universal truths, universal morals. I'm willing to bet you can't make one. Which means you have literally agreed on a universal truth and universal morality for these given things.

 

[irosie91]

If the scientist sets up a wave experiment he gets a wave answer. If he sets up a particle experiment he gets a particle answer. There is the risk of subjectivity in science because human beings are involved.

If you want to change the world, get rid of subjectivity. The world would change overnight.

long ago----two EUGLENAS had the audacity to CONJUGATE right
there on my microscope slide (in a drop of water)---they swapped
carmine particles as they rolled around with each other. SUBJECTIVELY
I did not condemn their IMORALITY

 

[irosie91]

I'm asking you because you are the one arguing against universal truths, universal morals. I'm willing to bet you can't make one. Which means you have literally agreed on a universal truth and universal morality for these given things.

nope