Zone1 If Jesus Was A Jew

[hobelim]

well, as you are inventing it, why would you expect that anyone else would know it?

I didn't invent anything. Anthropomorphism is nothing new. I mastered fairy tales by 4 years old

I didn't write the Bible but the author put a talking serpent into the story which when I first heard of it knew immediately it was just like any other fairy tale I ever read which I also did not invent.

The animals represent human beings. How is it that this continues to remain above your grasp?

Have you been sinning?

 

[hobelim]

No, it isn't. Jesus, if he said anything in this regard, was flat out wrong, at least as it applies to Jews.

Sorry you feel that way. Also sorry that you think your bullshit story is accepted by all Jews.

What Jesus taught defiles a person is not food. Its what goes into and out of the mind where all sinfulness is planted and nurtured or chewed up and spit out. He taught the only right way to understand kosher law that actually reflects the wisdom of a loving and benevolent God that fulfills the promise to human beings to have abundant blessings and peace on earth if they do it.

 

[rosends]

No, I have decided that following God commandments literally is not only sinful but stupid.

so murder is ok as long as you don't symbolically kill an archetype. Got it. And here I was planning to take the law literally and not kill anyone...

 

[rosends]

I didn't invent anything. Anthropomorphism is nothing new. I mastered fairy tales by 4 years old

and haven't moved on from then I guess

I didn't write the Bible but the author put a talking serpent into the story which when I first heard of it knew immediately it was just like any other fairy tale I ever read which I also did not invent.

(emphasis mine) -- no, you didn't KNOW it. You thought it and believe it. Nothing about knowledge is possible here.

The animals represent human beings. How is it that this continues to remain above your grasp?

No they don't -- how do you continue to miss that?

Have you been sinning?

I have been trying not to. That's my daily task.

 

[rosends]

Sorry you feel that way. Also sorry that you think your bullshit story is accepted by all Jews.

I don't recall saying that. Thanks for putting words into my mouth.

What Jesus taught defiles a person is not food. Its what goes into and out of the mind where all sinfulness is planted and nurtured or chewed up and spit out. He taught the only right way to understand kosher law that actually reflects the wisdom of a loving and benevolent God that fulfills the promise to human beings to have abundant blessings and peace on earth if they do it.

Great. I'm a Jew. I don't care what you say Jesus taught.

 

[rosends]

Yeah, try to run that crap past someone who knows nothing. You are a very dedicated cannibal.

really? Based on what facts do you make that claim. I'm the one who doesn't want to eat Jesus.

The flesh and blood of humans, swine that do not ruminate, is dripping from your unclean lips.

actually, no, that's not the case. Did you want to make any other incorrect guesses?

 

[rosends]

That would be you. who is here trying to justify animal sacrifice as a way to expiate sin.

You are changing things now. I have no problem that one can seek atonement for sin (in part and only sometimes) by providing a sacrifice. But not for a sin that is "death consequent."

 

[hobelim]

your fantasy world is impacting your ability to assimilate fact in the real world.

lol

 

[hobelim]

Have you been sinning?

I have been trying not to. That's my daily task.

Now thats funny!

 

[g5000]

Then why aren't Christians Jewish?

No.

I don't get it.

Read the book of Romans.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Meat eating must be a special problem to you, that you judge others so harshly as if to say 'those who eat meat have total disregard for God and do whatever the hell they want.'

World=age of man.

The Scriptures are clear on this. And life is cheap to you. You are being judged today

 

[hobelim]

so murder is ok as long as you don't symbolically kill an archetype.

No.

Ritual laughter isn't about killing anything human or animal. No temple required, no knife, no priests in dresses, no liturgy, no chanting, no tithing, no religious theatrics are necessary at all.

You might not realize this but as I stand in the sanctuary of God you have been carefully chosen and prepared as an offering for the expiation of sin. Your slaughter has been dedicated to the Lord, my God.. The fat trimmed from the flesh and thrown on the fire is a soothing and fragrant offering to the Lord, my God. Many will feast on the fresh flesh, real meat, and be satisfied for life

Your broken bones have been thrown away to be stripped clean away by the birds of the air.

To set aside the Law of my God, and to teach others to do the same, even your enemies, amounts to intentional murder whatever human archetype depicted as either clean or unclean creatures.

In the same exact way the Nachash, "Satan", was a murderer from the beginning of the fairy tale.

Even though he didn't kill anyone. He beguiled Adam and Eve into doing what God had forbidden.

 

[rosends]

No.

and yet this was exactly what you said.

Ritual laughter isn't about killing anything human or animal.

sure it is (animal, at least...Judaism isn't in favor of human sacrifice)

No temple required, no knife, no priests in dresses, no liturgy, no chanting, no tithing, no religious theatrics are necessary at all.

in your religion? How interesting. Judaism believes otherwise.

You might not realize this but as I stand in the sanctuary of God you have been carefully chosen and prepared as an offering for the expiation of sin. Your slaughter has been dedicated to the Lord, my God.. The fat trimmed from the flesh and thrown on the fire is a soothing and fragrant offering to the Lord, my God. Many will feast on the fresh flesh, real meat, and be satisfied for life

Your broken bones have been thrown away to be stripped clean away by the birds of the air.

To teach others to set aside the Law of God, even your enemies, amounts to intentional murder.

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[BackAgain]

Jesus WAS Jewish.

The more interesting question is this:

If there had been an electric chair in those times, would we wear jewelry in the form of the chair?


(I forget which comedian said that.)

 

[hobelim]

really? Based on what facts do you make that claim

One cannot comply with the literal interpretation and application of the Law that prohibits eating the vile and loathsome flesh of swine that do not ruminate without violating the deeper implications of the exact same Law because the teaching that the subject of Kosher law is about food is the vile and loathsome flesh of swine that DO NOT RUMINATE.

And you are full of it. Hoofs, snouts, rinds, tails, and all.

sure it is (animal, at least.

You believe that killing a animal will free you from the burden of the guilt of your own sins? Wow!

So you don't believe in the power of simple repentance?

Good luck with that!

 

[hobelim]

Jesus WAS Jewish.

The more interesting question is this:

If there had been an electric chair in those times, would we wear jewelry in the form of the chair?

Why not? If you are going to "celebrate" his death, Woo hoo! Yay! Whats the difference?

 

[Woodznutz]

The Scriptures are clear on this. And life is cheap to you. You are being judged today

Not by you I hope. I'm working out my own salvation. The scriptures not only allow meat eating but support it, calling those who refrain as 'weak'. Do you realize that if animals weren't used as food they wouldn't exist? Do you want to live in a world without domestic animals? The same people who decry eating meat also condemn keeping animals as pets. There are even movements afoot to stop people from riding horses, and shut down zoos as well. Do you support that?

The Bible does not condemn eating meat. Colossians 2:16 says, "Therefore, let no one judge you because of what you eat or drink"1. Romans 14:3 says, "Those who feel free to eat anything must not look down on those who don’t. And those who don’t eat certain foods must not condemn those who do, for God has accepted them"

The subject of these verses is the eating of meat vs. eating vegetables.

Animal agriculture is the greatest physical blessing that God has blessed mankind with. It is the foundation of health and wealth for any nation, beginning as early as the time of Abel.

 

[BackAgain]

Why not? If you are going to "celebrate" his death, Woo hoo! Yay! Whats the difference?

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I don’t celebrate His death. I believe the point was to commemorate the sacrifice He made for mankind.

But I’m not all that religious, so I leave that discussion to those who are.

 

[rosends]

One cannot comply with the literal interpretation and application of the Law that prohibits eating the flesh of swine that do not ruminate without violating the deeper implications of the exact same Law because the teaching that the subject of Kosher law is about food is the flesh of swine that do not ruminate.

but if that deeper "implication" is pure fiction, then one CAN comply with the literal application of the law. The teaching of kosher law is about the prohibition against eating certain animals, and food in certain preparations and combinations.

And you are full of it.

and you have an active imagination

Your belief that killing a animal will free you from the burden of the guilt for your own sins? Wow!

Nope, I didn't say that. Again you should stick to what I said; you have no skill at rewording.

So you don't believe in the power of simple repentance?

I don't recall saying anything like that. Show me otherwise.

 

[hobelim]

but if that deeper "implication" is pure fiction,

Its not. It couldn't be more clear. Its the only way that reveals wisdom worthy of a benevolent and loving God, wisdom that will always be relevant, edifying, for as long as there are people on earth.

ALL THE PIECES FIT PERFECTLY.

What then? How is it that you do not know the ONLY right course to take?

Maybe you need to strap a box on your head to help understand the words written inside? Damn.

Where is your faith?