If intelligent beings lived on other planets, they'd have visited us by now

[frigidweirdo]

If they haven't come here yet, they never will. We are alone in the universe.

Well, that doesn't necessarily make sense.
Maybe they haven't made the technology yet, maybe we will.

 

[Stryder50]

That is true, even if there is life far more intelligent than we are you have to think about how long it would take them even traveling at the speed of light...
that means in a best case scenario [denizens on even the closest planets to us]they would be traveling at least 100's of thousands of years to get here, and even allowing for that what would be the purpose?...
...every one on the planet who sent them would more than likely be dead before they got anywhere near us, and what would they be going back to? What would they want from us? we would amount to life forms that would be tumbleweeds on their planet?

Save for any radio communication, we're alone even if there are other life forms out there if they are unable to reach or contact us.... even if it/they were just one lightyear away....it would make no sense from an intelligence standpoint to attempt it.

"task 0778" in his post preceding yours gave a hint of alternative.

If the universe/cosmos is more than three dimensional, say having a fourth or even a fifth spatial dimensions, then it might be possible for one point to be tangent(connecting to) another point that bypasses the 3D spatial relationship. i.e. two points that are light years distant in 3D Space could be next to each other~touching, in say 5D space.

Given how some UFOs/UAPs move in non-linear and non-3D physics ways, "instant" displacement, or "popping in"~"popping out", it would suggest they may be using 4D or 5D spatial facets, or higher science and technologies that apply 4D or 5D, or +.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

task 0778" in his post preceding yours gave a hint of alternative.

If the universe/cosmos is more than three dimensional, say having a fourth or even a fifth spatial dimensions, then it might be possible for one point to be tangent(connecting to) another point that bypasses the 3D spatial relationship. i.e. two points that are light years distant in 3D Space could be next to each other~touching, in say 5D space.

Given how some UFOs/UAPs move in non-linear and non-3D physics ways, "instant" displacement, or "popping in"~"popping out", it would suggest they may be using 4D or 5D spatial facets, or higher science and technologies that apply 4D or 5D, or +.

I'm assuming this would be like taking the shortcut to the camp site...I have considered interdimensional travel but did not mention it because there would have to be a place very near our own solar system from which to access it [which is necessary for its usage] and means that like the moon or any celestial object whose presence can be predicted at any given time, that would make it mappable and useful to us as well, i.e. we should be able to find it quite easily and that would be at least as remarkable [actually moreso to me] as alien life...
So if interdemensional travel is or may be possible then our search for alien life forms should begin with looking for the "PORTAL"
so allow my post to stand with the added lead-in "aside from interdemensional travel"

 

[Stryder50]

That is true, even if there is life far more intelligent than we are you have to think about how long it would take them even traveling at the speed of light...
that means in a best case scenario [denizens on even the closest planets to us]they would be traveling at least 100's of thousands of years to get here, and even allowing for that what would be the purpose?...
...every one on the planet who sent them would more than likely be dead before they got anywhere near us, and what would they be going back to? What would they want from us? we would amount to life forms that would be tumbleweeds on their planet?

Save for any radio communication, we're alone even if there are other life forms out there if they are unable to reach or contact us.... even if it/they were just one lightyear away....it would make no sense from an intelligence standpoint to attempt it.

"task 0778" in his post preceding yours gave a hint of alternative.

If the universe/cosmos is more than three dimensional, say having a fourth or even a fifth spatial dimensions, then it might be possible for one point to be tangent(connecting to) another point that bypasses the 3D spatial relationship. i.e. two points that are light years distant in 3D Space could be next to each other~touching, in say 5D space.

Given how some UFOs/UAPs move in non-linear and non-3D physics ways, "instant" displacement, or "popping in"~"popping out", it would suggest they may be using 4D or 5D spatial facets, or higher science and technologies that apply 4D or 5D, or +.

They have been here. There is evidence. However, they are intelligent and they have seen what we are as a species and said "NO THANKS" I can't say I blame them. I wish I could go with them. The human race is fubar.

The human race is their product, and descendant. We are part Them and they made us this way. They are even more fubar.
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Excuse the confusion of double post here. My computer did a fubar it seems.

 

[Stryder50]

I'm assuming this would be like taking the shortcut to the camp site...I have considered interdimensional travel but did not mention it because there would have to be a place very near our own solar system from which to access it [which is necessary for its usage] and means like the moon or any celestial object whose presence can be predicted at any given time, that would make it mappable and useful to us as well, i.e. we should be able to find it quite easily and that would be at least as remarkable [actually moreso to me] as alien life...
So if interdemensional travel is or may be possible then our search for alien life forms should begin with looking for the "PORTAL"
so allow my post to stand with the added lead-in "aside from interdemensional travel"

The concept remains a bit conjectural still. One version would suggest a means to produce an artificial space-time discontinuity 'window' or 'door' that opens a portal "here" and would connect with another 'out' somewhere else.

Some accounts from persons whom claim to have traveled within UFO/UAPs describe experience and views consistant with a form of additional dimension or space-time discontinuity.

 

[miketx]

If they haven't come here yet, they never will. We are alone in the universe.

Perhaps like us, they are bound to their own solar system without the means to go farther, without it taking centuries to get elsewhere.

 

[TheParser]

The residents on other planets are too intelligent to ever want to visit this hellhole.

 

[rightwinger]

The residents on other planets are too intelligent to ever want to visit this hellhole.

Given the extreme unlikelyhood of a planet having a livable climate and having intelligent life, the Earth would be of extreme interest

Problem is it would be nearly impossible to find us in the vastness of space

 

[Ralph Norton]

If they haven't come here yet, they never will. We are alone in the universe.

Logic is not your strong suit, is it?

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Didn't you mean to say "If there was any intelligent life on Earth, aliens would have visited us by now?

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

Given the extreme unlikelyhood of a planet having a livable climate and having intelligent life, the Earth would be of extreme interest

Problem is it would be nearly impossible to find us in the vastness of space

Not so hard ..in theory..up to about 130 light years or so...radio propagates at speed of light...and would be a beacon to whoever..of course, as has been pointed out, space is big..and a couple of hundred lights is small area.

Maybe I should ask this guy?

 

[Concerned American]

Extraterrestrial civilizations may have existed for a lot longer and therefore are or could be a lot more advanced cuz they've had more time to do so.

For all we know, we may be an experimental colony of whatever ETs there are out there. It is not so far fetched that they would be curious to see how they might have evolved.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Why? The Universe is a pretty big place ... some say even bigger that Mall of America.

And what possible reason is there to come here? What signs would their be from half a galaxy away that we're of any interest to anyone?

Signs of life.

 

[WinterBorn]

I think any aliens that pass by Earth do so with the doors locked.

 

[Blackrook]

Logic is not your strong suit, is it?

Can you prove extra-terrestrial intelligent beings exist?

I've never seen any proof, just a bunch of wishful thinking.

But if you have proof, let's see it.

 

[task0778]

Can you prove extra-terrestrial intelligent beings exist?

About as much as you can that they don't. IOW, zip either way.

 

[Flash]

There has to be other intelligent life out there.

What do you base that on?

Intelligent or even microbial life could be unique to earth.

The problem is that we have only one data point. Until we get another data point we have nothing to conjecture upon.

After decades of serious research we can't turn chemistry to biology. That fact alone says that the process is very complicated and could be rare, if not non existence outside of earth.

It could be that all the factors that resulted in life on earth and then evolved into advanced life may have only happen once for all we know.

Whenever we look up all we see is a sterile universe that is hostile to any form of life we know. We have observed a few thousand planets and not one of them is really "earth like". Many are right out of Hell.

We have been brainwashed with 100 years of Science Fiction and therefore "believe" that alien life exist but we have no facts to support it.

 

[task0778]

Whenever we look up all we see is a sterile universe that is hostile to any form of life we know. We have observed a few thousand planets and not one of them is really "earth like". Many are right out of Hell.

A few thousand out of trillions of other planets that do exist out there is hardly enough to draw any conclusions. Check out this thread:

A mind-blowing scientific piece on the number of galaxies and stars

First, the link: There are more galaxies in the Universe than even Carl Sagan ever imagined Second, the commentary: Not much. I'm not a scientist. But I do find this material fascinating. The mere notion that there may be as many as 20 TRILLION galaxies "out there" and that so many of...

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The link in that thread opines that there could be as many as 20 trillion galaxies out there, each one with perhaps a couple hundred billion stars that could have multiple planets circling around them. That's a lot of planets. Most of which may well be uninhabitable by our standards, but much of that thinking is hypothetical. So, to suggest that we are the only intelligent beings in the entire universe is questionable based on what we know now (which is next to nothing).

 

[Flash]

A few thousand out of trillions of other planets that do exist out there is hardly enough to draw any conclusions. Check out this thread:

A mind-blowing scientific piece on the number of galaxies and stars

First, the link: There are more galaxies in the Universe than even Carl Sagan ever imagined Second, the commentary: Not much. I'm not a scientist. But I do find this material fascinating. The mere notion that there may be as many as 20 TRILLION galaxies "out there" and that so many of...

www.usmessageboard.com

The link in that thread opines that there could be as many as 20 trillion galaxies out there, each one with perhaps a couple hundred billion stars that could have multiple planets circling around them. That's a lot of planets. Most of which may well be uninhabitable by our standards, but much of that thinking is hypothetical. So, to suggest that we are the only intelligent beings in the entire universe is questionable based on what we know now (which is next to nothing).

If the universe is finite then there can be unique things in it. Life may be unique to earth. Statistics don't produce life. Just because there is life on earth don't mean that it is elsewhere.

Professor Kipping explains it better than me.

 

[Blackrook]

The universe has been in existence for billions of years. That's long enough to say someone should have visited us by now, if anyone was out there.