Zone1 If God were real, you wouldn’t need a book

[Meriweather]

No one ever put this better than C.S. Lewis:

“God will invade. But I wonder whether people who ask God to interfere openly and directly in our world quite realise what it will be like when He does. When that happens, it is the end of the world. When the author walks on to the stage the play is over. God is going to invade, all right: but what is the good of saying you are on His side then, when you see the whole natural universe melting away like a dream and something else - something it never entered your head to conceive - comes crashing in; something so beautiful to some of us and so terrible to others that none of us will have any choice left? For this time it will God without disguise; something so overwhelming that it will strike either irresistible love or irresistible horror into every creature. It will be too late then to choose your side. There is no use saying you choose to lie down when it has become impossible to stand up. That will not be the time for choosing; it will be the time when we discover which side we really have chosen, whether we realised it before or not. Now, today, this moment, is our chance to choose the right side. God is holding back to give us that chance. It will not last for ever. We must take it or leave it.”​

― C.S. Lewis

I am a fan of C.S. Lewis. He is talking about the 'someday'. It may be equally desirable to consider the here and now.

Questions for all at the end of day: Was I with God (or on God's side) today? How would circumstances been improved had I been more attentive to His will in the small things that made up this day? Instead of thinking in terms of "end of the world" be equally serious about thinking in terms, "It is the end of the day...." What is now too late to have done when the opportunity itself? How could this day have been different had the choice been different in those small matters?

 

[SweetSue92]

I am a fan of C.S. Lewis. He is talking about the 'someday'. It may be equally desirable to consider the here and now.

Questions for all at the end of day: Was I with God (or on God's side) today? How would circumstances been improved had I been more attentive to His will in the small things that made up this day? Instead of thinking in terms of "end of the world" be equally serious about thinking in terms, "It is the end of the day...." What is now too late to have done when the opportunity itself? How could this day have been different had the choice been different in those small matters?

This is merely self-help wrapped in crumpled Christian papers. Lewis has eternity in mind. That's where our mind should be often.

 

[Woodznutz]

Timeless, just like when God killed all but 9 people on the planet, and killed most of the animals, and put FISH on the Ark to save them from the flood.

Hollywood is still coming up with stories that make as little sense of this. Timeless.

The flood purified a world that was totally corrupt, then God started over (again) with Noah's family. We do that still today when animals contract serious diseases. It is likely that swine, feral and domesticated, corrupted much of the land. This is becoming a problem today as well.

Do​

Feral swine, also known as wild hogs, can significantly damage agricultural land for food production. They cause extensive damage by consuming crops, rooting, trampling, and wallowing, which can lead to the destruction of field crops such as sugar cane, corn, grain sorghum, soy beans, wheat, oats, peanuts, and rice. They also harm vegetable and fruit crops like lettuce, spinach, melons, and pumpkins. Feral swine can turn over sod and pasture, killing desired plant species and encouraging the growth of undesired weed species. They can also transmit pathogens to livestock, which may result in financial losses to livestock producers due to lower productivity, veterinary costs, or even mortality. Additionally, feral swine can destroy orchards and vineyards by consuming fruit, berries, citrus, grapes, and nuts. The ruts and rises created by their behavior can make it challenging, even impossible, for farmers to drive a tractor over the field to harvest hay.

USDA

The environmental impact of pig farming, driven by the spread of feces and waste, can pollute air and water with toxic waste particles, leading to groundwater pollution and health problems for nearby communities. The waste from these lagoons often contains pathogens, antibiotics, and heavy metals, which can seep into the water table and infect the groundwater that nearby communities drink.

Wikipedia

Feral swine are considered habitat generalists and can cause significant damage to the landscape and environment through wallowing, rooting for food, and selective feeding. They can also distribute fecal matter that introduces E. coli to the water system, altering the pH levels of the water and causing significant harm to the landscape and environment.

UC Davis

The economic fallout from feral swine is substantial, with annual crop damage estimated at $190 million for corn, peanuts, rice, sorghum, soybeans, and wheat. The USDA has referred to the phenomenon as "the feral swine bomb," highlighting the need for effective control measures to manage the population and protect food production.

ecologiclife.com
The issue of feral swine is a complex one, with differing views on the best approach to tackling the problem. Some farmers and ranchers want wild hogs gone for good, while others want to keep enough of their population around for sport hunting. There is a lack of consensus on state and federal intervention, with some states preferring to address the issue

 

[frigidweirdo]

The flood purified a world that was totally corrupt, then God started over (again) with Noah's family. We do that still today when animals contract serious diseases. It is likely that swine, feral and domesticated, corrupted much of the land. This is becoming a problem today as well.

Do​

Feral swine, also known as wild hogs, can significantly damage agricultural land for food production. They cause extensive damage by consuming crops, rooting, trampling, and wallowing, which can lead to the destruction of field crops such as sugar cane, corn, grain sorghum, soy beans, wheat, oats, peanuts, and rice. They also harm vegetable and fruit crops like lettuce, spinach, melons, and pumpkins. Feral swine can turn over sod and pasture, killing desired plant species and encouraging the growth of undesired weed species. They can also transmit pathogens to livestock, which may result in financial losses to livestock producers due to lower productivity, veterinary costs, or even mortality. Additionally, feral swine can destroy orchards and vineyards by consuming fruit, berries, citrus, grapes, and nuts. The ruts and rises created by their behavior can make it challenging, even impossible, for farmers to drive a tractor over the field to harvest hay.
USDA
The environmental impact of pig farming, driven by the spread of feces and waste, can pollute air and water with toxic waste particles, leading to groundwater pollution and health problems for nearby communities. The waste from these lagoons often contains pathogens, antibiotics, and heavy metals, which can seep into the water table and infect the groundwater that nearby communities drink.
Wikipedia
Feral swine are considered habitat generalists and can cause significant damage to the landscape and environment through wallowing, rooting for food, and selective feeding. They can also distribute fecal matter that introduces E. coli to the water system, altering the pH levels of the water and causing significant harm to the landscape and environment.
UC Davis
The economic fallout from feral swine is substantial, with annual crop damage estimated at $190 million for corn, peanuts, rice, sorghum, soybeans, and wheat. The USDA has referred to the phenomenon as "the feral swine bomb," highlighting the need for effective control measures to manage the population and protect food production.
ecologiclife.com
The issue of feral swine is a complex one, with differing views on the best approach to tackling the problem. Some farmers and ranchers want wild hogs gone for good, while others want to keep enough of their population around for sport hunting. There is a lack of consensus on state and federal intervention, with some states preferring to address the issue

Corrupt because it was violent, and God was violent. So God is corrupt.

 

[Woodznutz]

Corrupt because it was violent, and God was violent. So God is corrupt.

Bill Cosby to his errant son,

"I brought you into this world. I'll take you out."

 

[Meriweather]

This is merely self-help wrapped in crumpled Christian papers. Lewis has eternity in mind. That's where our mind should be often.

No, it is Christ's teaching: Discern the will of God and do it. The Kingdom of Heaven is within our reach today. No need to wait for 'someday'. Eternity begins when we first enter the kingdom.

 

[Meriweather]

Corrupt because it was violent, and God was violent. So God is corrupt.

God shows/teaches us how to bring goodness out of violence/evil. It can be compared to turning on a light to banish darkness. Goodness banishes evil.

 

[Crepitus]

See ya got nothing.

 

[Invisibleflash]

Not just the christian god, any god.

If they were real it would be self evident.

From a guy who spend decades as a preacher:

“Christians go in with their god as an assumption rather than a conclusion. When in fact, after close examination, the virgin birth falls apart, the resurrection falls apart, the basis of morality falls apart, the promise of afterlife fizzles into fear based marketing.”

“The gods of Islam, of Judaism, of Christianity only exist in scripture. If they actually existed, we wouldn’t need the books to claim they did. Once the book fails, the god goes with it.”



Feel free to explain why he is wrong or right.

Yes, concur.

Religion is all man-made lies.

Same story, decades of practice and study in all major religions. Just not a preacher.

Here...

GodFinder >

12,000+ god/s created. Humans are predisposed to creating god/s.

...even with orange Jesus.

 

[Woodznutz]

Most people throughout history have needed to believe in a god. Thankfully, we actually have one.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

the bible belt is the most repressive and illiterate figment of american society ...

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and have never been anything else as their choice than exploitive against well meaning civilized society to the detriment of all involved.

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When did you take the above photo?





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[BreezeWood]

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When did you take the above photo?





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january ...

when your god came calling for your soul ...

 

[Woodznutz]

the bible belt is the most repressive and illiterate figment of american society ...

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and have never been anything else as their choice than exploitive against well meaning civilized society to the detriment of all involved.

The most evil, depraved people I have ever met were on the campus of our state university and in the subculture of the drug using street people, far from the Bible Belt.

 

[Woodznutz]

I am a fan of C.S. Lewis. He is talking about the 'someday'. It may be equally desirable to consider the here and now.

Questions for all at the end of day: Was I with God (or on God's side) today? How would circumstances been improved had I been more attentive to His will in the small things that made up this day? Instead of thinking in terms of "end of the world" be equally serious about thinking in terms, "It is the end of the day...." What is now too late to have done when the opportunity itself? How could this day have been different had the choice been different in those small matters?

True. "The devil is in the details", and so is God.

 

[0311]

I don't give shit if you disagree and call what I posted fake news. Facts are facts.

FACT: IF you call yourself a so-called "Christian", would never allow, condone or support children going with food because cuts to SNAP and WIC. YOU would be demanding those funds be released. But YOU are NOT really so-called "Christian", You call yourself that.

FACT: IF you call yourself a so-called "Christian" would be demanding funding the Affordable Heath Act be restored. You should be demanding finds healthcare for Infants and Children be restored. But YOU are NOT really a so-called "Christian", YOU just say YOU are

FACT: IF you call yourself a so-called "Christian", you would never allow, support or condone picking children on their way to Soccer Practice. Children are innocent, but all you people ever is skin color and immigration status. The so-call "Savior" care for and loved Children, he would never have allowed, supported or condoned putting them jail. But YOU are NOT really a so-called "Christian", YOU just say you are.

FACT: IF you are a so-called "Christian", you never allow, condone or support forcing children from their Mother's Arms at gun point. We now know some of these children were trafficked. We now know CBP lost track of many of these children and have NEVER been found. But since YOU are really care about those children because YOU are NOT really a so-called 'Christian", YOU just say YOU are.

IF YOU call yourself a so-called "Christian" you never hate a person because gender, gender identity or gender preference. YOUR so-called "Savior" never on word about LGBTQ Men and Women. He preached Love, Acceptance, Care, Compassion and Concern, he never preached hate and intolerance. But because YOU are not really a so-called "Christian" YOU practice hate and intolerance and are NOT really a "Christian", you just say you are.


IF you call yourself a so-called "Christian", and allow, condone and support the Immoral Behavior of 47, YOU are NOT a so-called "Christian". He is pedophile, he is a serial adulterer, he is an adjudicated rapist and a convicted felon. He brags about sexually assaulting Women. But YOU are not really a "Christian', you just say you are.

Both your non-existent god and his equally non-existent bastard son preached acceptance, carae, concern, love and compassion. You wear your hate and intolerance proudly.

Christianity is all about Acceptance, Care, Compassion, Concern and Love. Such things are very rarely if at all shown by the so-called "Christians" on this forum. They embrace hate and intolerance. They embrace Antisemitism, Bigoty, Homophobia, Islamophobia, Misogyny and Racism. None of which is what their holy myth books calls upon to practice. They ignore love and acceptance their holy myth book talks about. They prefer their hate

 

[Meriweather]

IF you call yourself a so-called "Christian",

Should Christians favor that 1 in 5 of US children (17%) are obese? (There are more obese (doesn't count overweight) children in the US than US children on SNAP. Further, there are overweight and obese children in the SNAP program.) Should Christians favor insurance companies making profits amounting to $1.3 billion dollars due to Obama care? Trillions of dollars flowed into insurance companies due to Obamacare, while healthcare premiums are in the range of $26,000/year for the average family. Note that there are about 84 million family households in the US.

The US has problems, no doubt about it. Throwing money at these problems doesn't seem to be the best way to resolve them. Christians are more hands on help than they are at tossing more money at them while going on their merry way happy to be oblivious of underlying problems.

 

[pal]

Not just the christian god, any god.

If they were real it would be self evident.

From a guy who spend decades as a preacher:

“Christians go in with their god as an assumption rather than a conclusion. When in fact, after close examination, the virgin birth falls apart, the resurrection falls apart, the basis of morality falls apart, the promise of afterlife fizzles into fear based marketing.”

“The gods of Islam, of Judaism, of Christianity only exist in scripture. If they actually existed, we wouldn’t need the books to claim they did. Once the book fails, the god goes with it.”



Feel free to explain why he is wrong or right.

I've always believed that gods real, like Allah, Jesus, Abraham and similarly, but now it is the drop, atheists are probably right anyway.

 

[Rawley]

Not just the christian god, any god.

If they were real it would be self evident.

From a guy who spend decades as a preacher:

“Christians go in with their god as an assumption rather than a conclusion. When in fact, after close examination, the virgin birth falls apart, the resurrection falls apart, the basis of morality falls apart, the promise of afterlife fizzles into fear based marketing.”

“The gods of Islam, of Judaism, of Christianity only exist in scripture. If they actually existed, we wouldn’t need the books to claim they did. Once the book fails, the god goes with it.”



Feel free to explain why he is wrong or right.

The real question is why you feel the need to shit on the the beliefs of others

 

[pal]

The real question is why you feel the need to shit on the the beliefs of others

Life is totally black afterlife.

 

[Rawley]

Life is totally black afterlife.

That's a depressing way to go through life.