If Democrats Won It All, What Good Would That Do ?

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

As for Joe Biden, the things he says are his plan for America, have already been done by President Trump.

Like Trump campaign promise of healthcare that will replace Obamacare and that we'd all love, it's been promised by Trump but never delivered.

Democrats refuse to vote on it in the House.

 

[Crepitus]

Maybe we should cancel the November election, and leave it that way indefinitely. We as a nation are undergoing a lot of grief, over this one phenomenon. Riots, pandemic, traffic blocking, economy disruption, animosity, etc. Make no mistake. All this is coming from Democrats relentlessly trying to grab on to the presidency and congressional seats.

But for what ? What gain would there be for the American people ? Doesn't it appear that all this electioneering is just for the personal sake of those who want to get elected ? The Democrats have long claimed to be the champions of the poor and working class. But what could they do that hasn't been already done for 3 years (2017-2019) ? Unemployment for blacks and Hispanics has reached the lowest levels in US history. Likewise with disabled people, veterans, and folks without a high school diploma. Women have attained their lowest level of unemployment in over 70 years.

The median wage has attained its highest level in US history (new records being set continuously). The stock market has reached record highs, and is at that point right now. US energy production as become # 1 in the world. The US military has never been stronger.

If people want extensive healthcare free of charge + some good education, that's simple, just join the military, and give a couple of years of your life to serve your country, which everyone ought to do anyway.

The things that Democrats say they want, they are already getting, so why bother having an election ? . Cancel the election. We're good as we are, and there never would have been a Covid virus here if Democrats had not colluded with the Chinese to unleash it on us, to disrupt Trump's chances for re-election. If no election, we still might have gotten the virus here, with China acting alone, but they might not have without Democrat instigation.

As for Joe Biden, the things he says are his plan for America, have already been done by President Trump. The election seems to be a pointless, harmful, messy problem, that we could probably do better without.

 

[Crepitus]

As for Joe Biden, the things he says are his plan for America, have already been done by President Trump.

Like Trump campaign promise of healthcare that will replace Obamacare and that we'd all love, it's been promised by Trump but never delivered.

Democrats refuse to vote on it in the House.

LMf'nAO!!

It has to exist to be voted on. It imaginary. No one has ever written it.

 

[protectionist]

We both know the military won't take every American. Trump wants to eliminate the Payroll Tax that funds SS so saying he wants to save SS is bull. Does Trump/Devos want school choice or to eliminate teachers unions?

As for Trump's lies about healthcare:

The Affordable Care Act (ACA) sought to address gaps in the health coverage system and led to historic gains in health insurance coverage by extending Medicaid coverage to many low-income individuals and providing Marketplace subsidies for individuals below 400% of poverty. The number of uninsured nonelderly Americans decreased from over 46.5 million in 2010 (the year the ACA was enacted) to just below 27 million in 2016. However, for the second year in a row, the number of uninsured people increased from 2017 to 2018 by nearly 500,000 people​

QUALITY AND AFFORDABLE HEALTHCARE - President Trump is expanding access to affordable healthcare choices and taking action to lower drug prices.

• President Trump’s Administration is working to provide Americans with affordable alternatives to Obamacare.
• The Administration expanded short-term, limited duration health insurance plans that are expected to be nearly 50 percent cheaper than unsubsidized Obamacare plans.
• President Trump has expanded association health plans, allowing more employers to join together across State lines and affordably offer coverage to their employees.
• The Administration proposed a reform to Health Reimbursement Account (HRA) regulations that will give consumers more freedom to purchase benefits that fit their needs.
• Roughly 800,000 employers are expected to provide HRAs for more than 10 million employees once the rule finalized.
• Americans have more healthcare freedom thanks to the President signing legislation that ended Obamacare’s individual mandate penalty.
• While healthcare premiums had been steadily increasing as a result of Obamacare, the average benchmark exchange premium will decline for the first time in 2019 thanks to President Trump’s policies.
• Next year, Americans will benefit from more insurer participation on the exchanges.
• Medicare Advantage plans offer more benefit options than ever before, and average premiums in 2019 will be 6 percent lower than in 2018.
• President Trump launched an unprecedented campaign to drive down drug prices, leading more than a dozen drug manufactures to enact price freezes, reductions, or rollbacks.
• In 2018, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approved a record number of generic drugs, breaking the previous record set by the Administration in 2017.
• The FDA’s Fiscal Year (FY) 2017 generic drug approvals are expected to bring nearly $9 billion in savings in 2017 alone.
• President Trump signed legislation eliminating contractual gag clauses that stopped pharmacists from informing patients about lower drug prices.
• The President put forth an initiative to stop global freeloading that drives up prices for American patients.
• The Administration provided Medicare Advantage and Medicare Part D plans with new negotiating tools to drive down drug costs for American patients.
• The Administration implemented reforms to the amount Medicare pays hospitals for drugs that are purchased under the 340B program, saving seniors $320 million in 2018.
• President Trump signed “Right to Try” legislation to expand access to experimental treatments for terminally ill patients.

AND>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Trump signs executive orders aimed at lowering drug prices

President Trump on Friday signed four executive orders aimed at lowering drug prices, seeking to take action on a key issue for voters in an election year.The orders signed by Trump would move towa…

thehill.com

FIGHTING BACK AGAINST THE CRISIS NEXT DOOR: President Trump mobilized his entire Administration to combat the opioid crisis that has devastated communities across the country.

• President Trump launched an Initiative to Stop Opioid Abuse and Reduce Drug Supply and Demand, introducing new measures to confront the driving forces behind this crisis.
• The President signed the landmark SUPPORT for Patients and Communities Act, the largest and most comprehensive legislative package addressing a single drug crisis in history.
• The President helped secure a record $6 billion in funding to fight the opioid epidemic.
• The Administration provided more than $2 billion in grants in 2018 to help States, territories, tribes, and local communities prevent and treat opioid abuse.
• The Administration pursued scientific solutions to prevent and treat addiction through the Helping to End Addiction Long-term (HEAL) Initiative.
• The President launched a national public awareness campaign about the dangers of opioid addiction and youth opioid usage.
• Last year, President Trump created a Commission on Combating Drug Addiction and the Opioid Crisis, which recommends ways to tackle the opioid crisis.
• The Administration declared the opioid crisis a nationwide Public Health Emergency in 2017.
• President Trump is working to cut off the flow of deadly opioids into our country and to disrupt the networks that distribute them to our communities.
• The Administration secured first-ever indictments against Chinese nationals for fentanyl trafficking.
• The Department of Justice (DOJ) launched a surge to target fentanyl and heroin dealers in the districts with the most severe overdose death rates.
• The DOJ formed a Joint Criminal Opioid Darknet Enforcement team and shut down the biggest Darknet distributor of drugs.
• Last year, the DOJ announced the largest healthcare fraud takedown in history, arresting more than 120 defendants with opioid-related crimes.
• The President launched a Safer Prescribing Plan that seeks to cut nationwide opioid prescription fills by one-third within three years.
• The Administration has led four National Prescription Drug Take-Back Days, collecting a record-breaking 1,837 tons of expired and unneeded prescription drugs.

 

[alang1216]

As for Joe Biden, the things he says are his plan for America, have already been done by President Trump.

Like Trump campaign promise of healthcare that will replace Obamacare and that we'd all love, it's been promised by Trump but never delivered.

Democrats refuse to vote on it in the House.

News to me. Which bill?

 

[alang1216]

We both know the military won't take every American. Trump wants to eliminate the Payroll Tax that funds SS so saying he wants to save SS is bull. Does Trump/Devos want school choice or to eliminate teachers unions?

As for Trump's lies about healthcare:

The Affordable Care Act (ACA) sought to address gaps in the health coverage system and led to historic gains in health insurance coverage by extending Medicaid coverage to many low-income individuals and providing Marketplace subsidies for individuals below 400% of poverty. The number of uninsured nonelderly Americans decreased from over 46.5 million in 2010 (the year the ACA was enacted) to just below 27 million in 2016. However, for the second year in a row, the number of uninsured people increased from 2017 to 2018 by nearly 500,000 people​

QUALITY AND AFFORDABLE HEALTHCARE - President Trump is expanding access to affordable healthcare choices and taking action to lower drug prices.

• President Trump’s Administration is working to provide Americans with affordable alternatives to Obamacare.
• The Administration expanded short-term, limited duration health insurance plans that are expected to be nearly 50 percent cheaper than unsubsidized Obamacare plans.
• President Trump has expanded association health plans, allowing more employers to join together across State lines and affordably offer coverage to their employees.
• The Administration proposed a reform to Health Reimbursement Account (HRA) regulations that will give consumers more freedom to purchase benefits that fit their needs.
• Roughly 800,000 employers are expected to provide HRAs for more than 10 million employees once the rule finalized.
• Americans have more healthcare freedom thanks to the President signing legislation that ended Obamacare’s individual mandate penalty.
• While healthcare premiums had been steadily increasing as a result of Obamacare, the average benchmark exchange premium will decline for the first time in 2019 thanks to President Trump’s policies.
• Next year, Americans will benefit from more insurer participation on the exchanges.
• Medicare Advantage plans offer more benefit options than ever before, and average premiums in 2019 will be 6 percent lower than in 2018.
• President Trump launched an unprecedented campaign to drive down drug prices, leading more than a dozen drug manufactures to enact price freezes, reductions, or rollbacks.
• In 2018, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approved a record number of generic drugs, breaking the previous record set by the Administration in 2017.
• The FDA’s Fiscal Year (FY) 2017 generic drug approvals are expected to bring nearly $9 billion in savings in 2017 alone.
• President Trump signed legislation eliminating contractual gag clauses that stopped pharmacists from informing patients about lower drug prices.
• The President put forth an initiative to stop global freeloading that drives up prices for American patients.
• The Administration provided Medicare Advantage and Medicare Part D plans with new negotiating tools to drive down drug costs for American patients.
• The Administration implemented reforms to the amount Medicare pays hospitals for drugs that are purchased under the 340B program, saving seniors $320 million in 2018.
• President Trump signed “Right to Try” legislation to expand access to experimental treatments for terminally ill patients.

AND>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Trump signs executive orders aimed at lowering drug prices

President Trump on Friday signed four executive orders aimed at lowering drug prices, seeking to take action on a key issue for voters in an election year.The orders signed by Trump would move towa…

thehill.com

FIGHTING BACK AGAINST THE CRISIS NEXT DOOR: President Trump mobilized his entire Administration to combat the opioid crisis that has devastated communities across the country.

• President Trump launched an Initiative to Stop Opioid Abuse and Reduce Drug Supply and Demand, introducing new measures to confront the driving forces behind this crisis.
• The President signed the landmark SUPPORT for Patients and Communities Act, the largest and most comprehensive legislative package addressing a single drug crisis in history.
• The President helped secure a record $6 billion in funding to fight the opioid epidemic.
• The Administration provided more than $2 billion in grants in 2018 to help States, territories, tribes, and local communities prevent and treat opioid abuse.
• The Administration pursued scientific solutions to prevent and treat addiction through the Helping to End Addiction Long-term (HEAL) Initiative.
• The President launched a national public awareness campaign about the dangers of opioid addiction and youth opioid usage.
• Last year, President Trump created a Commission on Combating Drug Addiction and the Opioid Crisis, which recommends ways to tackle the opioid crisis.
• The Administration declared the opioid crisis a nationwide Public Health Emergency in 2017.
• President Trump is working to cut off the flow of deadly opioids into our country and to disrupt the networks that distribute them to our communities.
• The Administration secured first-ever indictments against Chinese nationals for fentanyl trafficking.
• The Department of Justice (DOJ) launched a surge to target fentanyl and heroin dealers in the districts with the most severe overdose death rates.
• The DOJ formed a Joint Criminal Opioid Darknet Enforcement team and shut down the biggest Darknet distributor of drugs.
• Last year, the DOJ announced the largest healthcare fraud takedown in history, arresting more than 120 defendants with opioid-related crimes.
• The President launched a Safer Prescribing Plan that seeks to cut nationwide opioid prescription fills by one-third within three years.
• The Administration has led four National Prescription Drug Take-Back Days, collecting a record-breaking 1,837 tons of expired and unneeded prescription drugs.

Thanks, this is an excellent list of the failures of the Trump administration. How much of this list consists of promises of future work, how much are executive orders, and how much is actual legislation? An EO doesn't have the force of law which means it can be ignored, resisted, or overwritten by the next EO. The ACA is law and that is why it is still around. Trump has passed very few laws so his impact in history will be minimal.

The Biggest Healthcare Changes Under Trump

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

Maybe we should cancel the November election, and leave it that way indefinitely. We as a nation are undergoing a lot of grief, over this one phenomenon. Riots, pandemic, traffic blocking, economy disruption, animosity, etc. Make no mistake. All this is coming from Democrats relentlessly trying to grab on to the presidency and congressional seats.

But for what ? What gain would there be for the American people ? Doesn't it appear that all this electioneering is just for the personal sake of those who want to get elected ? The Democrats have long claimed to be the champions of the poor and working class. But what could they do that hasn't been already done for 3 years (2017-2019) ? Unemployment for blacks and Hispanics has reached the lowest levels in US history. Likewise with disabled people, veterans, and folks without a high school diploma. Women have attained their lowest level of unemployment in over 70 years.

The median wage has attained its highest level in US history (new records being set continuously). The stock market has reached record highs, and is at that point right now. US energy production as become # 1 in the world. The US military has never been stronger.

If people want extensive healthcare free of charge + some good education, that's simple, just join the military, and give a couple of years of your life to serve your country, which everyone ought to do anyway.

The things that Democrats say they want, they are already getting, so why bother having an election ? . Cancel the election. We're good as we are, and there never would have been a Covid virus here if Democrats had not colluded with the Chinese to unleash it on us, to disrupt Trump's chances for re-election. If no election, we still might have gotten the virus here, with China acting alone, but they might not have without Democrat instigation.

As for Joe Biden, the things he says are his plan for America, have already been done by President Trump. The election seems to be a pointless, harmful, messy problem, that we could probably do better without.

Wear hip waders. The bovine feces is pretty high in this thread.

 

[Jitss617]

Your rights will be gone.. how can democrats allow free ppl be allowed to kill ppl by saying I don’t want to pay for healthcare?

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

If Democrats Won It All, What Good Would That Do ?

The same as reelecting Republicans. Absolutely none.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

As for Joe Biden, the things he says are his plan for America, have already been done by President Trump.

Like Trump campaign promise of healthcare that will replace Obamacare and that we'd all love, it's been promised by Trump but never delivered.

Democrats refuse to vote on it in the House.

News to me. Which bill?

Bill Clinton.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

“If Democrats Won It All, What Good Would That Do ?”

As already correctly noted: Trump would be gone – which alone would be an important and significant accomplishment.

Otherwise, any good Democrats might do would be stopped by Republicans.

And Democrats would at least prevent Republicans from pursuing their reckless, irresponsible, dangerous, wrongheaded agenda.

 

[protectionist]

“If Democrats Won It All, What Good Would That Do ?”

As already correctly noted: Trump would be gone – which alone would be an important and significant accomplishment.

Otherwise, any good Democrats might do would be stopped by Republicans.

And Democrats would at least prevent Republicans from pursuing their reckless, irresponsible, dangerous, wrongheaded agenda.

Exactly the OPPOSITE of the Truth.

And if Democrats DID prevent Republicans from pursuing their agenda, then we wouldn't have the lowest unemployment rates in US history for blacks, Hispanics, Asians, veterans, disabled people, and people without high school diploma. (as we HAVE HAD)

We also wouldn't have the highest median wage in US history. We wouldn't have the Opportunity Zones and First Step Act created by Trump.

All things that Democrats CLAIM THEY WANT. So what good would it then do for Democrats, to stop these things ?

 

[danielpalos]

Maybe we should cancel the November election, and leave it that way indefinitely. We as a nation are undergoing a lot of grief, over this one phenomenon. Riots, pandemic, traffic blocking, economy disruption, animosity, etc. Make no mistake. All this is coming from Democrats relentlessly trying to grab on to the presidency and congressional seats.

But for what ? What gain would there be for the American people ? Doesn't it appear that all this electioneering is just for the personal sake of those who want to get elected ? The Democrats have long claimed to be the champions of the poor and working class. But what could they do that hasn't been already done for 3 years (2017-2019) ? Unemployment for blacks and Hispanics has reached the lowest levels in US history. Likewise with disabled people, veterans, and folks without a high school diploma. Women have attained their lowest level of unemployment in over 70 years.

The median wage has attained its highest level in US history (new records being set continuously). The stock market has reached record highs, and is at that point right now. US energy production as become # 1 in the world. The US military has never been stronger.

If people want extensive healthcare free of charge + some good education, that's simple, just join the military, and give a couple of years of your life to serve your country, which everyone ought to do anyway.

The things that Democrats say they want, they are already getting, so why bother having an election ? . Cancel the election. We're good as we are, and there never would have been a Covid virus here if Democrats had not colluded with the Chinese to unleash it on us, to disrupt Trump's chances for re-election. If no election, we still might have gotten the virus here, with China acting alone, but they might not have without Democrat instigation.

As for Joe Biden, the things he says are his plan for America, have already been done by President Trump. The election seems to be a pointless, harmful, messy problem, that we could probably do better without.

The left can do it without all of the divisiveness of right wingers. Riots were not this bad under the democrats and right wingers seem to incite more agitation.

 

[danielpalos]

The democrats actually understand our Constitution and how it is supposed to work; unlike the right wing.

And that's why they deny conservatives the right to speak, and support violent anarchists, right ? And why they deny conservatives freedom of religion, by forcing them to go against their religious beliefs, right ?

Right wingers are worse. Besides, there are good people on both sides, remember.

 

[danielpalos]

Nobody takes right wingers seriously about economics, the law, politics, or morals. This is all they know how to do:

https://www.usdebtclock.org/

Nobody but enough people in 30 states to have elected Donald Trump president.

This is Democrats version of the "law" >>

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Your guy lost the popular vote. And, isn't right wing projection, fantastical.

 

[protectionist]

The left can do it without all of the divisiveness of right wingers. Riots were not this bad under the democrats and right wingers seem to incite more agitation.

The riots ARE being done "under the Democrats" They are all being done under the misrule of Democrat governors and mayors, who have recklessly been ordering their police to stand down, and allow the riots to proceed. As in Seattle, with Dunce Durkam, and her "Summer of Love", as well as Insane Inslee who refused to call out the National Guard.

As for riots when Obama was president (Ferguson, Baltimore, New York, etc) Also less reported about but just as significant was the riots at the 2009 G-20 Pittsburgh summit protests, September 24–25, with a whopping 193 arrested.

In addition during Obama's 2 terms >>

• 2010 – Springfest riot, April 10, 200 police disperse crowd of 8,000 using tear gas, pepper spray, rubber bullets, and bean bag rounds, near the campus of James Madison University; dozens injured. 30–35 arrested; Harrisonburg, Virginia.
• 2010 – Santa Cruz May Day riot, May 1, 250 rampage through downtown Santa Cruz attacking 18 businesses, causing an estimated $100,000 in damages. 1 arrested. Santa Cruz, California.
• 2010 – Oakland protest riot, November 5, Police made more than 150 arrests as a crowd broke windows and knocked down fences, protesting sentence of former BART officer in shooting of Oscar Grant on New Years Day 2009; see BART Police shooting of Oscar Grant. Oakland, California
• 2011 – Madison Occupation. Protestors storm and occupy the Wisconsin state capitol building for 18 days.
• 2011 – Occupy Wall Street (Brooklyn Bridge protests). Demonstrators blocked the bridge and more than 700 people were arrested. New York, New York
• 2011 – Occupy Oakland Oakland protests riots. October. Protesters shattered windows, set fires, and plastered buildings with graffiti. Riot police fired heavy amounts of tear gas on the protesters.
• 2012 – NATO 2012 Chicago Summit, May. Conflict between riot police and protesters. Dozens of demonstrators clubbed and arrested.
• 2012 – Anaheim police shooting and protests, July 28. Violence erupted after multiple shootings in the neighborhood by police that included unarmed Manuel Diaz. 24 people were arrested.
• 2013 – Flatbush Riots, March 11, Riots in Brooklyn, New York after the death of Kimani Gray who was shot and killed by NYPD.
• 2014 – Bundy Standoff, April 5–May, an armed confrontation between supporters of cattle rancher Cliven Bundy and law enforcement following a 21-year legal dispute in which the United States Bureau of Land Management (BLM) obtained court orders directing Bundy to pay over $1 million in withheld grazing fees for Bundy's use of federally-owned land adjacent to Bundy's ranch in southeastern Nevada.
• 2014 – Ferguson unrest, Ferguson and St. Louis, Missouri, August 10 and November 24. Following the shooting death of Michael Brown by a Ferguson police officer, protests erupt in the streets. Police respond with riot gear, tear gas, sound canons, police dogs, concussion grenades, rubber bullets, pepper balls, wooden bullets, beanbag rounds, tasers, pepper spray, and armored vehicles. Unrest occurred continuously for weeks in August, and sporadically through December, with nearly daily protests throughout the period and rioting following the non-indictment announcement on November 24. Unrest again occurred on the one year anniversary in August 2015, with dozens of arrests.
• 2014 – St. Louis, Missouri – October 8, police vehicle windows broken as rage at the killing of Vonderrit Myers Jr. Protests continued for days afterward, during the nearby and ongoing Ferguson Unrest.
• 2014 – New York, New York, and Berkeley, California – After prosecutors and a grand jury refused to indict a police officer in the death of Eric Garner, protests erupted in New York City and other cities.
• 2014 Oakland riots, November–December, A series of riots and civil disturbances that took place in Oakland and the surrounding area, in reaction to the events involving the Shooting of Michael Brown and later, the death of Eric Garner, Oakland, California
• 2014 – Berkeley, Missouri, December 23–24. Antonio Martin is shot to death by police in a St. Louis suburb nearby to Ferguson, leading to violent conflict with police, and looting.
• 2015 – 2015 Baltimore protests, April 25–28. Days of protests break out following the death of Freddie Gray while in police custody. 34 people are arrested and 15 Officers injured after rioting and looting break out. Gray's funeral was held on April 27 and followed by further protests and looting. Governor Hogan had preemptively activated the Maryland National Guard, while the Maryland State Police had activated at least 500 officers.
• 2015 – St. Louis, Missouri, August 19. Conflict with police following fatal shooting by St. Louis police officers of black teenager Mansur Ball-Bey leads to deployment of tear gas then burned car, buildings, and looting. Protests continue in subsequent days with tensions remaining high.
• 2016 – Occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge, January–February 2016. 1 killed and several dozen arrested at Malheur National Wildlife Refuge, Oregon.
• 2016 – 2016 Donald Trump Chicago rally protest, March 11. Five people arrested and two police officers injured during a demonstration at the UIC Pavilion.
• 2016 – Democracy Spring rally in April. March to Washington D.C. and sit-ins lead to arrests.
• 2016 – 2016 Sacramento riot, June 26, A confrontation between white nationalists and left-wing counter protesters at the California State Capitol. Ten people were hospitalized for stabbing and laceration wounds.
• 2016 – Widespread protests erupt in response to two deaths at the hands of police, the Shooting of Alton Sterling and shooting of Philando Castile. At least 261 people were arrested in protests in New York City, Chicago, St. Paul, Baton Rouge, and other cities.
• 2016 – 2016 Milwaukee riots, Sherman Park, August 13–15. Milwaukee, Wisconsin, sparked by the fatal police shooting of 23-year-old Sylville Smith.
• 2016 – 2016 Charlotte riot, September 20–21, Protests and riots break out in response to the shooting of Keith Lamont Scott by a Charlotte police officer.
• 2016 – Dakota Access Pipeline protests, 411 protesters arrested. Multiple skirmishes with police, with vehicles, hay bales, and tires set on fire.
• 2016 – Anti-Trump protests, November 9–27. As a result of Donald Trump elected as 45th President of the U.S., thousands protested across twenty-five American cities, and unrest broke out in downtown Oakland, California, and Portland, Oregon. In Oakland, over 40 fires started and police officers were injured.

 

[protectionist]

Just goes to show. Give Democrats what they say they want, and they're still unhappy. They don't really want all those things (low unemployment, high wages, good economy, etc)

They just want POWER.

 

[protectionist]

Right wingers are worse. Besides, there are good people on both sides, remember.

I haven't seen right winger denying people the riot to speak nor have I seen violence from right wing protest. When the Tea Party held their public protest they were peaceful. Nobody is worse that the left.

 

[protectionist]

Your guy lost the popular vote. And, isn't right wing projection, fantastical.

What you call the "popular vote" is the vote of all legally voting US citizens + millions of illegally voting NON-citizens. Totally illegitimate.

Besides that, the number of people who vote is irrelevant. It is the STATES' votes that matter. US president are elected by STATES, not people.

 

[theHawk]

Maybe we should cancel the November election, and leave it that way indefinitely. We as a nation are undergoing a lot of grief, over this one phenomenon. Riots, pandemic, traffic blocking, economy disruption, animosity, etc. Make no mistake. All this is coming from Democrats relentlessly trying to grab on to the presidency and congressional seats.

But for what ? What gain would there be for the American people ? Doesn't it appear that all this electioneering is just for the personal sake of those who want to get elected ? The Democrats have long claimed to be the champions of the poor and working class. But what could they do that hasn't been already done for 3 years (2017-2019) ? Unemployment for blacks and Hispanics has reached the lowest levels in US history. Likewise with disabled people, veterans, and folks without a high school diploma. Women have attained their lowest level of unemployment in over 70 years.

The median wage has attained its highest level in US history (new records being set continuously). The stock market has reached record highs, and is at that point right now. US energy production as become # 1 in the world. The US military has never been stronger.

If people want extensive healthcare free of charge + some good education, that's simple, just join the military, and give a couple of years of your life to serve your country, which everyone ought to do anyway.

The things that Democrats say they want, they are already getting, so why bother having an election ? . Cancel the election. We're good as we are, and there never would have been a Covid virus here if Democrats had not colluded with the Chinese to unleash it on us, to disrupt Trump's chances for re-election. If no election, we still might have gotten the virus here, with China acting alone, but they might not have without Democrat instigation.

As for Joe Biden, the things he says are his plan for America, have already been done by President Trump. The election seems to be a pointless, harmful, messy problem, that we could probably do better without.

For what? So they can destroy America. Rewrite our history, mandate new speech laws, dismantle the wall, allow millions of third world immigrants and refugees, repeal the Second Amendment, abolish police, enable BLM terrorists to burn down every white neighborhood, destroy our economy, and usher in their communist utopia.