If Democrats Won It All, What Good Would That Do ?

[protectionist]

For what? So they can destroy America. Rewrite our history, mandate new speech laws, dismantle the wall, allow millions of third world immigrants and refugees, repeal the Second Amendment, abolish police, enable BLM terrorists to burn down every white neighborhood, destroy our economy, and usher in their communist utopia.

That's is what they plan to do. That is exactly what will happen.

 

[candycorn]

We both know the military won't take every American. Trump wants to eliminate the Payroll Tax that funds SS so saying he wants to save SS is bull. Does Trump/Devos want school choice or to eliminate teachers unions?

As for Trump's lies about healthcare:

The Affordable Care Act (ACA) sought to address gaps in the health coverage system and led to historic gains in health insurance coverage by extending Medicaid coverage to many low-income individuals and providing Marketplace subsidies for individuals below 400% of poverty. The number of uninsured nonelderly Americans decreased from over 46.5 million in 2010 (the year the ACA was enacted) to just below 27 million in 2016. However, for the second year in a row, the number of uninsured people increased from 2017 to 2018 by nearly 500,000 people​

QUALITY AND AFFORDABLE HEALTHCARE - President Trump is expanding access to affordable healthcare choices and taking action to lower drug prices.

• President Trump’s Administration is working to provide Americans with affordable alternatives to Obamacare.
• The Administration expanded short-term, limited duration health insurance plans that are expected to be nearly 50 percent cheaper than unsubsidized Obamacare plans.
• President Trump has expanded association health plans, allowing more employers to join together across State lines and affordably offer coverage to their employees.
• The Administration proposed a reform to Health Reimbursement Account (HRA) regulations that will give consumers more freedom to purchase benefits that fit their needs.
• Roughly 800,000 employers are expected to provide HRAs for more than 10 million employees once the rule finalized.
• Americans have more healthcare freedom thanks to the President signing legislation that ended Obamacare’s individual mandate penalty.
• While healthcare premiums had been steadily increasing as a result of Obamacare, the average benchmark exchange premium will decline for the first time in 2019 thanks to President Trump’s policies.
• Next year, Americans will benefit from more insurer participation on the exchanges.
• Medicare Advantage plans offer more benefit options than ever before, and average premiums in 2019 will be 6 percent lower than in 2018.
• President Trump launched an unprecedented campaign to drive down drug prices, leading more than a dozen drug manufactures to enact price freezes, reductions, or rollbacks.
• In 2018, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approved a record number of generic drugs, breaking the previous record set by the Administration in 2017.
• The FDA’s Fiscal Year (FY) 2017 generic drug approvals are expected to bring nearly $9 billion in savings in 2017 alone.
• President Trump signed legislation eliminating contractual gag clauses that stopped pharmacists from informing patients about lower drug prices.
• The President put forth an initiative to stop global freeloading that drives up prices for American patients.
• The Administration provided Medicare Advantage and Medicare Part D plans with new negotiating tools to drive down drug costs for American patients.
• The Administration implemented reforms to the amount Medicare pays hospitals for drugs that are purchased under the 340B program, saving seniors $320 million in 2018.
• President Trump signed “Right to Try” legislation to expand access to experimental treatments for terminally ill patients.

AND>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Trump signs executive orders aimed at lowering drug prices

President Trump on Friday signed four executive orders aimed at lowering drug prices, seeking to take action on a key issue for voters in an election year.The orders signed by Trump would move towa…

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FIGHTING BACK AGAINST THE CRISIS NEXT DOOR: President Trump mobilized his entire Administration to combat the opioid crisis that has devastated communities across the country.

• President Trump launched an Initiative to Stop Opioid Abuse and Reduce Drug Supply and Demand, introducing new measures to confront the driving forces behind this crisis.
• The President signed the landmark SUPPORT for Patients and Communities Act, the largest and most comprehensive legislative package addressing a single drug crisis in history.
• The President helped secure a record $6 billion in funding to fight the opioid epidemic.
• The Administration provided more than $2 billion in grants in 2018 to help States, territories, tribes, and local communities prevent and treat opioid abuse.
• The Administration pursued scientific solutions to prevent and treat addiction through the Helping to End Addiction Long-term (HEAL) Initiative.
• The President launched a national public awareness campaign about the dangers of opioid addiction and youth opioid usage.
• Last year, President Trump created a Commission on Combating Drug Addiction and the Opioid Crisis, which recommends ways to tackle the opioid crisis.
• The Administration declared the opioid crisis a nationwide Public Health Emergency in 2017.
• President Trump is working to cut off the flow of deadly opioids into our country and to disrupt the networks that distribute them to our communities.
• The Administration secured first-ever indictments against Chinese nationals for fentanyl trafficking.
• The Department of Justice (DOJ) launched a surge to target fentanyl and heroin dealers in the districts with the most severe overdose death rates.
• The DOJ formed a Joint Criminal Opioid Darknet Enforcement team and shut down the biggest Darknet distributor of drugs.
• Last year, the DOJ announced the largest healthcare fraud takedown in history, arresting more than 120 defendants with opioid-related crimes.
• The President launched a Safer Prescribing Plan that seeks to cut nationwide opioid prescription fills by one-third within three years.
• The Administration has led four National Prescription Drug Take-Back Days, collecting a record-breaking 1,837 tons of expired and unneeded prescription drugs.

Thanks, this is an excellent list of the failures of the Trump administration. How much of this list consists of promises of future work, how much are executive orders, and how much is actual legislation? An EO doesn't have the force of law which means it can be ignored, resisted, or overwritten by the next EO. The ACA is law and that is why it is still around. Trump has passed very few laws so his impact in history will be minimal.

The Biggest Healthcare Changes Under Trump

I'm old enough to remember back when TV stations went off the air for "technical difficulties". The announcer would come on and say, "We are experiencing technical difficulties. The fault does not lie with your set. We'll be back on the air shortly. Please stand by." Essentially, we have had to tell the world this for the last 3 years and some change.

 

[candycorn]

As for Joe Biden, the things he says are his plan for America, have already been done by President Trump.

Like Trump campaign promise of healthcare that will replace Obamacare and that we'd all love, it's been promised by Trump but never delivered.

Democrats refuse to vote on it in the House.

News to me. Which bill?

The one he dreamed up.

 

[Mac1958]

If the Dems win (who knows), it would be an indication that we are better than what we have temporarily allowed to happen to the presidency.

That's it. That's all. Our standards are now that low. Let's just demonstrate that we haven't completely given up.

 

[protectionist]

I'm old enough to remember back when TV stations went off the air for "technical difficulties". The announcer would come on and say, "We are experiencing technical difficulties. The fault does not lie with your set. We'll be back on the air shortly. Please stand by." Essentially, we have had to tell the world this for the last 3 years and some change.

Yeah, we have done a great job at disrupting the rest of the world, and giving them technical difficulties at their abilities to take advantage of us. Over time, if Trump is re-elected Chinese (junk) products will gradually disappear from our store shelves, and be replaced with the ones that have a "Made in USA" label on them.

And European countries are already experiencing the "technical difficulties" of paying their fair share into NATO. And we have done a great job of deporting half a million illegal aliens back to Latin American countries, many of them violent criminals, as they have found the US is no longer their dumping ground for all the indigents and criminals they seek to get rid of.

 

[candycorn]

I'm old enough to remember back when TV stations went off the air for "technical difficulties". The announcer would come on and say, "We are experiencing technical difficulties. The fault does not lie with your set. We'll be back on the air shortly. Please stand by." Essentially, we have had to tell the world this for the last 3 years and some change.

Yeah, we have done a great job at disrupting the rest of the world, and giving them technical difficulties at their abilities to take advantage of us. Over time, if Trump is re-elected Chinese (junk) products will gradually disappear from our store shelves, and be replaced with the ones that have a "Made in USA" label on them.

And European countries are already experiencing the "technical difficulties" of paying their fair share into NATO. And we have done a great job of deporting half a million illegal aliens back to Latin American countries, many of them violent criminals, as they have found the US is no longer their dumping ground for all the indigents and criminals they seek to get rid of.

Meanwhile back in reality, our trade imbalance with China remains pretty much where it was at before Trump got there. Obama deported more than Trump did. As far as NATO goes, you're doing your bong rips early today.

 

[protectionist]

Thanks, this is an excellent list of the failures of the Trump administration. How much of this list consists of promises of future work, how much are executive orders, and how much is actual legislation? An EO doesn't have the force of law which means it can be ignored, resisted, or overwritten by the next EO. The ACA is law and that is why it is still around. Trump has passed very few laws so his impact in history will be minimal.

The Biggest Healthcare Changes Under Trump

This post is an excellent example of the Bullshit so often expressed by leftists who try to diminish the fine things (expanded association health plans, HRAs for more than 10 million employees, Obamacare facist mandate elimination, increase in Medicare Advantage plans and lower prices, record #s of generic drugs, elimination of gag clauses, $320 Million saved under 340B, lives being saved by Right to Try bill proposed by Sen. Ron Johnson (R-WI), and signed by Trump.

And if you have to ask about all this stuff, then you aren't prepared to post any criticism if it. Come back when you get a grasp on what you're talking about, Mr Question Mark.

Example : The Right to Try LAW is not a "failure', nor is it "future work", nor is it an "executive order". It is a LAW that has saved lives.
Example: Natalie Harp, who was invited onto the stage by President Trump while he was speaking in June 2019, at a Faith and Freedom Coalition conference, a coalition of conservative evangelical Christians, said that the legislation saved her life. Harp, who states she was diagnosed with Stage 2 cancer and left housebound by a medical error one year after the bill passed, declared the legislation saved her life and she praised the Trump administration's fight for healthcare.

Millennial fighting cancer thanks Trump for ‘Right to Try’ during faith conference appearance

A millennial woman who credits the “Right to Try” law in helping her battle cancer thanked President Trump for backing the legislation during a lively appearance at Wednesday's Faith and Freedom Coalition conference.

www.foxnews.com

You all really need to watch this short video of Natalie Harp telling her story. Someday YOU may be faced with the same life-threatening cancer that she was. She was saved by Rob Johnson & President Trump, not Joe Biden, not Barrack Obama.

 

[candycorn]

Thanks, this is an excellent list of the failures of the Trump administration. How much of this list consists of promises of future work, how much are executive orders, and how much is actual legislation? An EO doesn't have the force of law which means it can be ignored, resisted, or overwritten by the next EO. The ACA is law and that is why it is still around. Trump has passed very few laws so his impact in history will be minimal.

The Biggest Healthcare Changes Under Trump

This post is an excellent example of the Bullshit so often expressed by leftists who try to diminish the fine things (expanded association health plans, HRAs for more than 10 million employees, Obamacare facist mandate elimination, increase in Medicare Advantage plans and lower prices, record #s of generic drugs, elimination of gag clauses, $320 Million saved under 340B, lives being saved by Right to Try bill proposed by Sen. Ron Johnson (R-WI), and signed by Trump.

And if you have to ask about all this stuff, then you aren't prepared to post any criticism if it. Come back when you get a grasp on what you're talking about, Mr Question Mark.

Example : The Right to Try LAW is not a "failure', nor is it "future work", nor is it an "executive order". It is a LAW that has saved lives.
Example: Natalie Harp, who was invited onto the stage by President Trump while he was speaking in June 2019, at a Faith and Freedom Coalition conference, a coalition of conservative evangelical Christians, said that the legislation saved her life. Harp, who states she was diagnosed with Stage 2 cancer and left housebound by a medical error one year after the bill passed, declared the legislation saved her life and she praised the Trump administration's fight for healthcare.

Millennial fighting cancer thanks Trump for ‘Right to Try’ during faith conference appearance

A millennial woman who credits the “Right to Try” law in helping her battle cancer thanked President Trump for backing the legislation during a lively appearance at Wednesday's Faith and Freedom Coalition conference.

www.foxnews.com

You all really need to watch this short video of Natalie Harp telling her story. Someday YOU may be faced with the same life-threatening cancer that she was. She was saved by Rob Johnson & President Trump, not Joe Biden, not Barrack Obama.

Watch your language.

Remember when he said he would force drug companies to list prices on advertising? He failed to do that too. Put that on top of all of the other failures.

 

[protectionist]

Meanwhile back in reality, our trade imbalance with China remains pretty much where it was at before Trump got there. Obama deported more than Trump did. As far as NATO goes, you're doing your bong rips early today.

HA HA. Nothing more laughable than the often quoted claim by liberals that >> " "Obama deported more than Trump did." They actually believe this nonsense, becasue it is fed to them routinely on such leftist propaganda Demicart mouthpiexes as CNN, MSNBC, PBS, NBC, etc And on strict orders, they steer clear of Newsmax, the Blaze, the First, OAN Encore, Fox News, America's Voice, Rush Limbaugh, et al conservstive ,media where they could have been cured.

So now, they get cured right here in USMB (where they will likely resist the debunking info, because they are comfortable with being duped)

EARTH TO CC: The laughable claim that "Obama deported more than Trump did." comes from the number of deportation orders set forth. This however, is nothing more than a number in a book. In reality, Obama deported almost NOBODY, because his administration practiced CATCH & RELEASE, allowing illegal liens to walk free with a date to appear in court (for they they simply did not ever show up and calmly return to their life in the USA, as if nothing happened.

Trump of course, has eliminated this pro-illegal alien procedure.

You guys are the top insulters of intelligence in America. You really thought you were going to throw that pitch past me ?

As for 'bong rips" you'll have to speak American English. I don't understand liberalese loon talk, and have no intention of trying to. and if you're talking about the so-called China trade deficit, be aware that it was created primarily by Bill Clinton's October 2000

U.S. President Bill Clinton signs the U.S.-China Relations Act of 2000 ,granting Beijing permanent normal trade relations with the United States, and paving the way for China to join the World Trade Organization in 2001. This is an predicament that has been in development for decades, and will not be unravelled in 3 years.

As for debt to China, supposedly the "largest holder of U.S. debt—or treasuries", that is a poppycock laughingstock. The US can NEVER be in debt to China. We sacrificed hundreds of thousands of LIVES in World War 2, saving China's ass from the Japs. Without this huge debt, that CHINA OWES AMERICA, China would not even EXIST right now. China will ALWAYS be in debt to the US.

 

[alang1216]

Thanks, this is an excellent list of the failures of the Trump administration. How much of this list consists of promises of future work, how much are executive orders, and how much is actual legislation? An EO doesn't have the force of law which means it can be ignored, resisted, or overwritten by the next EO. The ACA is law and that is why it is still around. Trump has passed very few laws so his impact in history will be minimal.

The Biggest Healthcare Changes Under Trump

This post is an excellent example of the Bullshit so often expressed by leftists who try to diminish the fine things (expanded association health plans, HRAs for more than 10 million employees, Obamacare facist mandate elimination, increase in Medicare Advantage plans and lower prices, record #s of generic drugs, elimination of gag clauses, $320 Million saved under 340B, lives being saved by Right to Try bill proposed by Sen. Ron Johnson (R-WI), and signed by Trump.

And if you have to ask about all this stuff, then you aren't prepared to post any criticism if it. Come back when you get a grasp on what you're talking about, Mr Question Mark.

Example : The Right to Try LAW is not a "failure', nor is it "future work", nor is it an "executive order". It is a LAW that has saved lives.
Example: Natalie Harp, who was invited onto the stage by President Trump while he was speaking in June 2019, at a Faith and Freedom Coalition conference, a coalition of conservative evangelical Christians, said that the legislation saved her life. Harp, who states she was diagnosed with Stage 2 cancer and left housebound by a medical error one year after the bill passed, declared the legislation saved her life and she praised the Trump administration's fight for healthcare.

Millennial fighting cancer thanks Trump for ‘Right to Try’ during faith conference appearance

A millennial woman who credits the “Right to Try” law in helping her battle cancer thanked President Trump for backing the legislation during a lively appearance at Wednesday's Faith and Freedom Coalition conference.

www.foxnews.com

You all really need to watch this short video of Natalie Harp telling her story. Someday YOU may be faced with the same life-threatening cancer that she was. She was saved by Rob Johnson & President Trump, not Joe Biden, not Barrack Obama.

"Example : The Right to Try LAW is not a "failure', nor is it "future work", nor is it an "executive order". It is a LAW that has saved lives."

A federal right to try law was passed in May 2018, but as of June 2019 only two patients had been accepted for experimental therapies[2]and as of August 2020, according to the New York University School of Medicine, fewer than 10 people had used the law to get treatments. According to Scott Gottlieb, who served as commissioner of the FDA under President Donald Trump, the FDA had already approved 99% of patient requests for access to experimental drugs, either immediately over the phone or within a few days, prior to the passage of right to try legislation.

 

[alang1216]

if you have to ask about all this stuff, then you aren't prepared to post any criticism if it. Come back when you get a grasp on what you're talking about, Mr Question Mark.

How many times have I heard Trump say he will protect the ACA's pre-existing conditions ban. If you look at what he has done you'll see that there are no such protections. You are being played for a fool, he is just telling us what we want to hear.

 

[protectionist]

Watch your language.

Remember when he said he would force drug companies to list prices on advertising? He failed to do that too. Put that on top of all of the other failures.

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[protectionist]

"Example : The Right to Try LAW is not a "failure', nor is it "future work", nor is it an "executive order". It is a LAW that has saved lives."

A federal right to try law was passed in May 2018, but as of June 2019 only two patients had been accepted for experimental therapies[2]and as of August 2020, according to the New York University School of Medicine, fewer than 10 people had used the law to get treatments. According to Scott Gottlieb, who served as commissioner of the FDA under President Donald Trump, the FDA had already approved 99% of patient requests for access to experimental drugs, either immediately over the phone or within a few days, prior to the passage of right to try legislation.

Yeah. Yeah, I read all that. What is 1,000,000 times as important as that, is the link I posted in Post # 47 about Natalie Harp. Didn't watch the video, did you ?



PS - if you're going to go to medical information to back up your argument, you might want to start it off with something a lot better than >> "as of June 2019" (when we are in almost September of 2020)

 

[protectionist]

How many times have I heard Trump say he will protect the ACA's pre-existing conditions ban. If you look at what he has done you'll see that there are no such protections. You are being played for a fool, he is just telling us what we want to hear.

I don't need coaching from a CNN dupe, or other Trump-hater RINO. And if you want free medical care, do what I did. Join the military, and get all your meds, therapies, surgeries, etc from the VA.

 

[protectionist]

Here's a hunk more of info for your information-deprived liberal victims of liberal OMISSION media, that CNN "forgot" to tell you about >>>

Trump accomplishments >>>

1. RECORD positive numbers on the economy,
2. stopped the absurd practice of giving China unrestricted access to our valuable market,
3. holding China accountable for cyber theft,
4. taking Mexico and Central American countries to task for illegal immigration,
5.created 9 million jobs, created over 400,000 manufacturing jobs,
6. unemployment claims hit 50 year low, highest median wage in US history,
7. lowest unemployment for blacks, Hispanics, Asians, and disabled in US history, 8.lowest unemployment for women in over 70 years,
9. lowest unemployment rate ever recorded for Americans without a high school diploma,
10. 4 million Americans off food stamps,
11. vocational training topped 4 million - highest ever,
12. opened ANWR and approved Keystone XL and Dakota Access Pipelines thereby making America # 1 energy producer in the world (no other president ever did that), 13. Obamacare individual mandate penalty GONE,
14. FDA approved more affordable generic drugs than ever before in history. > drug companies are freezing or reversing planned price increases,
15. reformed the Medicare program to stop hospitals from overcharging low-income seniors on their drugs—saving seniors hundreds of millions of dollars,
16. Signed Right-To-Try legislation,
17. $6 billion in NEW funding to fight the opioid epidemic (the most ever),
18. Signed VA Choice Act and VA Accountability Act,
19. expanded VA telehealth services, walk-in-clinics, and same-day urgent primary and mental health care (I got surgeries and benefits from this myself),
20. United States is a net natural gas exporter for the first time since 1957,
21. withdrew the United States from the job-killing Paris Climate Accord,
22. pressured NATO allies, and they're spending $69 billion more on defense since 2016,
23. made the Space Force the 6th branch of the Armed Forces,
24. withdrew from the horrible, one-sided Iran Deal, 25. moved U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem,
25. protected Americans from terrorists with the Travel Ban, upheld by Supreme Court, 26. issued Executive Order to keep open Guantanamo Bay,
27. MCA deal,
28. reached a breakthrough agreement with the E.U. to increase U.S. exports
29. pressured NATO allies, and they're spending $69 billion more on defense since 2016,
30. net exports increased $59 Billion in 2018,
31. improved vetting and screening for refugees, and switched focus to overseas resettlement,
32. we have begun BUILDING THE WALL.
33. provided quality detention centers for migrant children in Southwest Key Programs
34. created 8,700 Opportunity Zones with investment incentives for companies to invest in distressed communities
35. Got Israel/UAE aggreement establishing Middle East peace
36. Defeated ISIS and killed their leaders incl. # 1 al Baghdadi.
37. Killed Iranian terrorist leader Sulemani.
38. Stopped domestic terrorist mobs by sending federal troops & National Guard
39. record of number of regulations cut, further boosting the economy
40. highest median wage in US history
41. rebuilt the US military to a $721 Billion/yr budget
42. increased wages for military personnel
43. We found out when we expected President Trump to lead us through a COVID pandemic, as our Covid mortality rate was REDUCED from over 17,000/week in April. to less than 1,000 this week, as a result of the many smart things that the president has done. > it's a HUGE SUCCESS.
44. Ventilators (we now have so many we're exporting them),
45. the Navy hospital ships sent to New York,
46. the stimulus checks,
47. The Task Force advice (ex. social distancing),
48. opposition/criticism of New York's dumb nursing home policies,
49. federal aid to hospitals,
50. travel bans (which Democrats called Trump a "racist' for),
51. Trump's advocacy of hydroxychloriquin (now proven to be effective, despite criticism from Democrats),
52. fast, continual development of a vaccine.

 

[alang1216]

How many times have I heard Trump say he will protect the ACA's pre-existing conditions ban. If you look at what he has done you'll see that there are no such protections. You are being played for a fool, he is just telling us what we want to hear.

I don't need coaching from a CNN dupe, or other Trump-hater RINO. And if you want free medical care, do what I did. Join the military, and get all your meds, therapies, surgeries, etc from the VA.

What do you say to people the military won't accept because they are too old or have a pre-existing condition?

 

[alang1216]

A federal right to try law was passed in May 2018, but as of June 2019 only two patients had been accepted for experimental therapies[2]and as of August 2020, according to the New York University School of Medicine, fewer than 10 people had used the law to get treatments. According to Scott Gottlieb, who served as commissioner of the FDA under President Donald Trump, the FDA had already approved 99% of patient requests for access to experimental drugs, either immediately over the phone or within a few days, prior to the passage of right to try legislation.

Yeah. Yeah, I read all that. What is 1,000,000 times as important as that, is the link I posted in Post # 47 about Natalie Harp.
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So an anecdote is 1,000,000 times as important as actual data? I'm happy for her but millions are infected with COVID-19 and his law helped only 10 people. Doesn't sound like a real solution to me.

 

[The2ndAmendment]

The only solution:

 

[alang1216]

A federal right to try law was passed in May 2018, but as of June 2019 only two patients had been accepted for experimental therapies and as of August 2020, according to the New York University School of Medicine, fewer than 10 people had used the law to get treatments. According to Scott Gottlieb, who served as commissioner of the FDA under President Donald Trump, the FDA had already approved 99% of patient requests for access to experimental drugs, either immediately over the phone or within a few days, prior to the passage of right to try legislation.

Yeah. Yeah, I read all that.

Didn't watch the video, did you ?

PS - if you're going to go to medical information to back up your argument, you might want to start it off with something a lot better than >> "as of June 2019" (when we are in almost September of 2020)

Didn't really "read all that" did you now? If you had gotten through the first sentence you'd see the number from August 2020, as in THIS month.

 

[sartre play]

Maybe we would have more independent thinking & qualified people, Republican & Democrat. Maybe we would not have people in top positions who have little to zero qualification for the job they hold. Maybe we would not end up with 7 people working just for Trump, & not the Republican party, who were found to be criminals. Maybe the republicans would have had a platform this election cycle, not just elect a king based convention.