If Az is shown to have cheated...then what?

[LeftofLeft]

Will MI follow suit? And if that is proven as a cheat, what happens? Does Sleepy Joe get to keep on in the WH? Or if proven Trump DID win...does he get brought back as potus?

IMHO, if AZ and other contested states’ audits show irregularities and suggests that the 2020 Election is corrupted, No, I don’t think Trump should be reinstated as President.

I do think more controls and safeguards should be put into Elections. When Democrats predictably put up their typical bullshit resistance saying any Election safeguards would be unfair to Blacks, they are going to look stupid and have no grounds.

For starters, Mail-In Balloting processes need to be addressed. We can’t have ballots mailed-in, not match the signatures, and then counted. I suppose Democrats are going to cry Jim Crow at the notion of matching signatures?

You will need 2 forms of ID to vote from now on. Hasn't been an honest election since Kennedy's old man stole that one and got his bird brained son shot for his efforts. Cheaters always lose. The Kennedys really lost.

I am not naive enough to think that Elections will ever be 100 percent clean. But, please don’t be naive to to think mass mail-in ballots arriving last minute at 3:00 AM without matching signatures is legitimate. That is something out of corrupt dictatorships and communist countries. No wonder Democrats defend the practice. And, they use Blacks as props to help them defend it.

 

[Hang on Sloopy]

I don't understand why it would not change the outcome.

Of course you don't, because you don't understand the US constitution.

You don't seem to understand something.

Georgia's Republican secretary of state and his wife received texts telling them they deserve 'to face a firing squad' as Trump escalated his attacks on election results

Georgia's top election official said his wife received threats via text such as "You better not botch this recount. Your life depends on it."

www.businessinsider.com

How can anyone do their job with this you disgusting libturd.

 

[Hang on Sloopy]

Will MI follow suit? And if that is proven as a cheat, what happens? Does Sleepy Joe get to keep on in the WH? Or if proven Trump DID win...does he get brought back as potus?

IMHO, if AZ and other contested states’ audits show irregularities and suggests that the 2020 Election is corrupted, No, I don’t think Trump should be reinstated as President.

I do think more controls and safeguards should be put into Elections. When Democrats predictably put up their typical bullshit resistance saying any Election safeguards would be unfair to Blacks, they are going to look stupid and have no grounds.

For starters, Mail-In Balloting processes need to be addressed. We can’t have ballots mailed-in, not match the signatures, and then counted. I suppose Democrats are going to cry Jim Crow at the notion of matching signatures?

You will need 2 forms of ID to vote from now on. Hasn't been an honest election since Kennedy's old man stole that one and got his bird brained son shot for his efforts. Cheaters always lose. The Kennedys really lost.

I am not naive enough to think that Elections will ever be 100 percent clean. But, please don’t be naive to to think mass mail-in ballots arriving last minute at 3:00 AM without matching signatures is legitimate. That is something out of corrupt dictatorships and communist countries. No wonder Democrats defend the practice. And, they use Blacks as props to help them defend it.

Don't be naive? At 11 pm election night I knew this was a complete scam...................Naive???

 

[MarcATL]

OP, what happens when these paid political hacks can't gin up any credible evidence, what will your position be then?

 

[colfax_m]

But, please don’t be naive to to think mass mail-in ballots arriving last minute at 3:00 AM without matching signatures is legitimate

This didn’t happen.

Don’t be naive to think that everything people post on the internet is legitimate.

 

[Hang on Sloopy]

Wouldn't you welcome this audit to prove the conservs wrong and laugh at them.

We are laughing at you because this audit is a farce.

But the problem is that the idiots that think the election is stolen aren’t going to see the audit as the farce it is.

I knew it was a farce at 11pm election night. Your grinding resistance to this is funny.

I'm off to my life on the golf course now in very good humor. This is so much fun watching this

 

[kyzr]

I don’t know but a nation that can’t hold a fair and transparent election, is a failed nation.

Except we held a fair and transparent election...

The craziness is we are still using the "Bad idea because they wanted to get home and rape their slaves" method of picking a president, instead of just having a direct election like any sensible nation would do.

To note......as crazy as it was 2016 was a fair election also.

That’s the thing with partisans, they can’t think rationally.

1. Prove that partisans don't think rationally, you can't
2. Partisans are active in the policies being voted on, as opposed to low-information voters, or non-voters
3. The old saying, "everyone votes their own pocketbook" is generally true

That’s too easy. Partisans of the two gangs think their gang is better, when clearly there is little difference between them. But like I stated, you must be able to think rationally and partisans can’t.

There are major differences between the two political parties, Leftists vs Conservatives.
If you think that the following policy differences don't matter, you aren't thinking.
Border and immigration policies
Energy policies
Military posture
The Green New Deal
"Wokeness"
Law and Order vs Anarchy
Reprogram the US education system: Critical Race Theory vs Traditional/Family Values
God vs atheism
China and trade policies
In-sourcing jobs vs outsourcing jobs by taxing corporations so much they relocate
HR-1 grab for one-party rule
Make DC & PR new states taking over the US senate forever
Replacing the Electoral College with the popular vote
Totally turning the US into a socialist/failed state.

That’s propaganda designed to deceive you and it’s working.

If you can't see the major differences between the two parties you're either lying, or stupid.
Why are you on this forum when all you say is "both parties suck"?
We're supposed to debate ideas, i.e. real "content". Your posts have no content, maybe you should try the "flame zone"?

 

[Hang on Sloopy]

OP, what happens when these paid political hacks can't gin up any credible evidence, what will your position be then?

Then we will look like fools and move on.

However what would you say if there is credible evidence?????...............FRAUD>>>FRAUD

You people who have to slave to a boss for a dust breathing existence make me laugh.

Well Markie. My biggest problem in life now is this slice with my 2 and 3 irons. so I'm off to get this straightened out by June

 

[konradv]

Will MI follow suit? And if that is proven as a cheat, what happens? Does Sleepy Joe get to keep on in the WH? Or if proven Trump DID win...does he get brought back as potus?

Sadly it would not change the outcome of the election

But it would help to prevent future democrat cheating

I don't understand why it would not change the outcome.

Because Congress already certified the election and Arizona has 9 electoral votes...so even if your fantasy comes true, Biden still had more votes than Trump.....

But when your own high ranking GOP controlled election board is telling you this recount is a sham and is making Arizona a laughing stock.....it's not good.....

A GOP-led Arizona elections board called the state's vote recount a 'sham' and 'grift disguised as an audit'

A board of election supervisors in Maricopa County warned in a Monday letter that the recount was eroding faith in democracy.

www.businessinsider.in

Arizona proving fraud means fraud in other states because we all know that the same voting systems were used. corrupt voting is treason and should be considered as such with all taking part in this treason up for capital crime punishments.

Do you think Arizona is a person?

And where is this fraud that Arizona has proven?

Do you know how bad it makes you folks look when the person who is in control of this recount is even saying Trump is unhinged??

"Wow. This is unhinged. I’m literally looking at our voter registration database on my other screen. Right now," Richer posted on Twitter in response to Trump's claims."

County recorder speaks out against Trump; other GOP leaders call out 'fantasy,' 'madness'

Senate President Karen Fann asks county officials to meet Tuesday to address "serious issues." County responds with Monday meeting to "lay out facts."

www.azcentral.com

Trump literally had you folks believing the whole Arizona voter database was erased......and not a shred of proof was offered....yall just believe him as if lying isn't a core hobby of his....

Do you folks ever get tired of gaslighting?

Oh brother Person in charge? You do know what a county recorder is don't you?

Cool...so I see you are going to dodge the point....

Let's see you dodge yet another Arizona GOP official when he said:

"President Trump is peddling in fantasy here and I thank Mr. Richer for saying so, while looking at the very database the former POTUS says doesn’t exist or has been deleted, which is obviously false," state Sen. T.J. Shope, R-Coolidge, posted on Twitter."

At what point are you going to realize that you are being conned??

If the audit proves legit, we were conned. if not, you are going to look so dumb. The mocking of you cheaters and President Vegetable will be epic. Why wouldn't you want to clear the air about this. My mom would say you are definitely hiding something

If all this is supposed to do is clear the air, why did Trump throw more trash on the pile by claiming there was a database wipe that never happened?

 

[Gracie]

Everything is warped. All is upside down. Cities being burned, the perps released to continue doing it. A man in the white house that should be in a mental ward. Crooked people in control. Lies everywhere. Media involvement. The destruction of freedom of speech. Cheating.

If someone cheats on their taxes and they get caught, they are punished. Some don't get punished at all. Business as usual. But to MAYBE cheat to win an election for POTUS is treason. Period. Wash it any way you want to, it's still treason.

If Trump cheated in 2016, the same applies. He is removed and the running mate put in the WH. If Biden & Co cheated, same deal. Why should our nation suffer the consequences in either case? It's illegal. Against all we supposedly stand for. So WHY, if cheating is proven, would not the person that cheated not be removed? It's false. All of it is false. And those responsible/involved should be behind bars.

 

[Dragonlady]

Will MI follow suit? And if that is proven as a cheat, what happens? Does Sleepy Joe get to keep on in the WH? Or if proven Trump DID win...does he get brought back as potus?

If Trump is proven to have lied what will YOU do? The sane and reasonable Republicans in Arizona have had enough of this insanity, and they are shutting this fraud down forthwith. These staunch Republicans are insulted to the core of their beings that Donald Trump and others continues to call them liars in the pay of the Democrats.

Republican leaders throughout the nation are begging the party to stop lying to the American people about the election. Liz Cheney is now leading a movement of Republicans to "Dump Trump" and start healing the nation, and getting a REAL conservative party agenda together for the American people.

If the lies continue, Cheney, and the rest of the conservative Republicans, many of whom supported Trump through thick and thin, right up to January 6th, will leave and they will take the 50% of sane Republicans who know Biden won the election, with them.

Trump should be in jail right now. The State of New York want's him extradited to face charges.

 

[kyzr]

The bigger question is.....

Once Conservatives have finished the audit and come up with the same results, will Trump and fellow Republicans accept the results?

I'm going to say YES, they will accept the results after a thorough audit, and all issues were investigated.
I'll show you examples of two issues that should be investigated:

Pennsylvania Republicans find ‘alarming discrepancy’ twice the margin of Biden’s victory - Washington Examiner

Republican lawmakers in Pennsylvania say an "alarming discrepancy" in the presidential vote count is two times larger than the margin of President-elect Joe Biden's victory in the state.Their analysis, released on Monday by state Rep. Frank Ryan and more than a dozen colleagues, found different...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

GA investigated and their audit has no issues.
But AZ, PA, and WI have allegations. Here are a few other items to investigate, square these away and the election is accepted.

Database Swells to 1,285 Proven Cases of Voter Fraud in America

All-mail elections have received heightened attention in the media these past few weeks. Prominent liberals highly endorse the idea, claiming it allows people to do their patriotic duty without risking being infected by the coronavirus. In reality, without rigid safeguards to prevent fraud...

www.heritage.org

 

[colfax_m]

I knew it was a farce at 11pm election night. Your grinding resistance to this is funny.

You knew at 11 PM Trump wasn’t going to win, and so you decided that just can’t be true. It just can’t!

I'm off to my life on the golf course now in very good humor. This is so much fun watching this

I’ve had fun watching these same allegations face-plant for the last 6 months. Tell me how excited for the Kraken were you? What about the Texas lawsuit?

This time Charlie Brown. This time.

 

[colfax_m]

I'll show you examples of two issues that should be investigated:

What exactly needs investigating here? That big bump in the Democratic vote is when Milwaukee county posted their results. It’s the biggest population center and happens to be very democratic. It’s not anomalous, it’s exactly what you’d expect.

 

[kyzr]

Will MI follow suit? And if that is proven as a cheat, what happens? Does Sleepy Joe get to keep on in the WH? Or if proven Trump DID win...does he get brought back as potus?

If Trump is proven to have lied what will YOU do? The sane and reasonable Republicans in Arizona have had enough of this insanity, and they are shutting this fraud down forthwith. These staunch Republicans are insulted to the core of their beings that Donald Trump and others continues to call them liars in the pay of the Democrats.

Republican leaders throughout the nation are begging the party to stop lying to the American people about the election. Liz Cheney is now leading a movement of Republicans to "Dump Trump" and start healing the nation, and getting a REAL conservative party agenda together for the American people.

If the lies continue, Cheney, and the rest of the conservative Republicans, many of whom supported Trump through thick and thin, right up to January 6th, will leave and they will take the 50% of sane Republicans who know Biden won the election, with them.

Trump should be in jail right now. The State of New York want's him extradited to face charges.

Links please to prove your bullshit, otherwise they are just more "Russia Collusion" LIES. No one believes anything you post.

 

[pknopp]

I don’t know but a nation that can’t hold a fair and transparent election, is a failed nation.

Except we held a fair and transparent election...

The craziness is we are still using the "Bad idea because they wanted to get home and rape their slaves" method of picking a president, instead of just having a direct election like any sensible nation would do.

To note......as crazy as it was 2016 was a fair election also.

That’s the thing with partisans, they can’t think rationally.

1. Prove that partisans don't think rationally, you can't
2. Partisans are active in the policies being voted on, as opposed to low-information voters, or non-voters
3. The old saying, "everyone votes their own pocketbook" is generally true

That’s too easy. Partisans of the two gangs think their gang is better, when clearly there is little difference between them. But like I stated, you must be able to think rationally and partisans can’t.

There are major differences between the two political parties, Leftists vs Conservatives.
If you think that the following policy differences don't matter, you aren't thinking.
Border and immigration policies
Energy policies
Military posture
The Green New Deal
"Wokeness"
Law and Order vs Anarchy
Reprogram the US education system: Critical Race Theory vs Traditional/Family Values
God vs atheism
China and trade policies
In-sourcing jobs vs outsourcing jobs by taxing corporations so much they relocate
HR-1 grab for one-party rule
Make DC & PR new states taking over the US senate forever
Replacing the Electoral College with the popular vote
Totally turning the US into a socialist/failed state.

That’s propaganda designed to deceive you and it’s working.

If you can't see the major differences between the two parties you're either lying, or stupid.
Why are you on this forum when all you say is "both parties suck"?
We're supposed to debate ideas, i.e. real "content". Your posts have no content, maybe you should try the "flame zone"?

Both parties sucking is an idea.

 

[rightwinger]

The bigger question is.....

Once Conservatives have finished the audit and come up with the same results, will Trump and fellow Republicans accept the results?

I'm going to say YES, they will accept the results after a thorough audit, and all issues were investigated.
I'll show you examples of two issues that should be investigated:
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Pennsylvania Republicans find ‘alarming discrepancy’ twice the margin of Biden’s victory - Washington Examiner

Republican lawmakers in Pennsylvania say an "alarming discrepancy" in the presidential vote count is two times larger than the margin of President-elect Joe Biden's victory in the state.Their analysis, released on Monday by state Rep. Frank Ryan and more than a dozen colleagues, found different...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

GA investigated and their audit has no issues.
But AZ, PA, and WI have allegations. Here are a few other items to investigate, square these away and the election is accepted.

Database Swells to 1,285 Proven Cases of Voter Fraud in America

All-mail elections have received heightened attention in the media these past few weeks. Prominent liberals highly endorse the idea, claiming it allows people to do their patriotic duty without risking being infected by the coronavirus. In reality, without rigid safeguards to prevent fraud...

www.heritage.org

I have this Bridge in Brooklyn to sell you if you think Republicans will accept the result if it says it was a fair election

 

[kyzr]

I don’t know but a nation that can’t hold a fair and transparent election, is a failed nation.

Except we held a fair and transparent election...

The craziness is we are still using the "Bad idea because they wanted to get home and rape their slaves" method of picking a president, instead of just having a direct election like any sensible nation would do.

To note......as crazy as it was 2016 was a fair election also.

That’s the thing with partisans, they can’t think rationally.

1. Prove that partisans don't think rationally, you can't
2. Partisans are active in the policies being voted on, as opposed to low-information voters, or non-voters
3. The old saying, "everyone votes their own pocketbook" is generally true

That’s too easy. Partisans of the two gangs think their gang is better, when clearly there is little difference between them. But like I stated, you must be able to think rationally and partisans can’t.

There are major differences between the two political parties, Leftists vs Conservatives.
If you think that the following policy differences don't matter, you aren't thinking.
Border and immigration policies
Energy policies
Military posture
The Green New Deal
"Wokeness"
Law and Order vs Anarchy
Reprogram the US education system: Critical Race Theory vs Traditional/Family Values
God vs atheism
China and trade policies
In-sourcing jobs vs outsourcing jobs by taxing corporations so much they relocate
HR-1 grab for one-party rule
Make DC & PR new states taking over the US senate forever
Replacing the Electoral College with the popular vote
Totally turning the US into a socialist/failed state.

That’s propaganda designed to deceive you and it’s working.

If you can't see the major differences between the two parties you're either lying, or stupid.
Why are you on this forum when all you say is "both parties suck"?
We're supposed to debate ideas, i.e. real "content". Your posts have no content, maybe you should try the "flame zone"?

Both parties sucking is an idea.

Both parties suck is a simplistic "opinion". Debating ideas is about why each party sucks, and which one sucks more.

 

[pknopp]

I don’t know but a nation that can’t hold a fair and transparent election, is a failed nation.

Except we held a fair and transparent election...

The craziness is we are still using the "Bad idea because they wanted to get home and rape their slaves" method of picking a president, instead of just having a direct election like any sensible nation would do.

To note......as crazy as it was 2016 was a fair election also.

That’s the thing with partisans, they can’t think rationally.

1. Prove that partisans don't think rationally, you can't
2. Partisans are active in the policies being voted on, as opposed to low-information voters, or non-voters
3. The old saying, "everyone votes their own pocketbook" is generally true

That’s too easy. Partisans of the two gangs think their gang is better, when clearly there is little difference between them. But like I stated, you must be able to think rationally and partisans can’t.

There are major differences between the two political parties, Leftists vs Conservatives.
If you think that the following policy differences don't matter, you aren't thinking.
Border and immigration policies
Energy policies
Military posture
The Green New Deal
"Wokeness"
Law and Order vs Anarchy
Reprogram the US education system: Critical Race Theory vs Traditional/Family Values
God vs atheism
China and trade policies
In-sourcing jobs vs outsourcing jobs by taxing corporations so much they relocate
HR-1 grab for one-party rule
Make DC & PR new states taking over the US senate forever
Replacing the Electoral College with the popular vote
Totally turning the US into a socialist/failed state.

That’s propaganda designed to deceive you and it’s working.

If you can't see the major differences between the two parties you're either lying, or stupid.
Why are you on this forum when all you say is "both parties suck"?
We're supposed to debate ideas, i.e. real "content". Your posts have no content, maybe you should try the "flame zone"?

Both parties sucking is an idea.

Both parties suck is a simplistic "opinion". Debating ideas is about why each party sucks, and which one sucks more.

Yes it alone is simplistic but both Gipper and myself have posted endlessly as to why they both suck.

 

[Dragonlady]

Everything is warped. All is upside down. Cities being burned, the perps released to continue doing it. A man in the white house that should be in a mental ward. Crooked people in control. Lies everywhere. Media involvement. The destruction of freedom of speech. Cheating.

If someone cheats on their taxes and they get caught, they are punished. Some don't get punished at all. Business as usual. But to MAYBE cheat to win an election for POTUS is treason. Period. Wash it any way you want to, it's still treason.

If Trump cheated in 2016, the same applies. He is removed and the running mate put in the WH. If Biden & Co cheated, same deal. Why should our nation suffer the consequences in either case? It's illegal. Against all we supposedly stand for. So WHY, if cheating is proven, would not the person that cheated not be removed? It's false. All of it is false. And those responsible/involved should be behind bars.

No Gracie, everything is right side up. The guy who belongs in the mental ward is now living in Mar-a-lago. The crooked people got voted out of office, and the lies have ended. It you're hearing lies, it's only because you're listening to Donald Trump.

You seem incapable of discerning the truth tellers from the liars. Time to wake up and stop listening to Donald Trump and those who enable his lies. Donald Trump attempted an authoritarian take over of the USA. In almost any other country in the world, he would have be shot on January 6th for treason. He would not have remained in the White House for another day.

There were 3 prior recounts/audits in Arizona and few irregularities were found. Recounts in more than a half dozen states confirmed Biden's victory. Every state in the Union certified their election results, and 53 court cases involving more than 90 judges from all sides, some even appointed by Trump, all confirmed that Donald Trump had no case.

Trump didn't even try to claim the election was "stolen" in the courts. He tried to claim that ballots from the large, urban, predominently black cities, should not be counted. Trump is the guy who cheated. Who tried to sabotage the US postal system to prevent mail-in ballots.

Trump tried to steal the election, and failed. And then he tried to litigate a win and failed. And then he tried to overthrow the government and kill all of the leaders, and that failed.

When are you going to see the reality of who the traitor is here?