Zone1 If all that one knows, believes, & follows is the "Great Commandment", will they go to Heaven?

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Since He Himself said it, if you accept Him, you accept that He did. If you reject Him, you also reject His fulfillment of the Law and still try (and fail) to keep it yourself.

Will he know us by our fruits?

 

[Lisa558]

I am describing walking in obedience, which goes far beyond deeds and to the mind. Jesus elevated adultery from the physical act to the thoughts. He elevated murder from the physical act to the thoughts. When I walk in obedience, I set my mind on God and my actions follow. When my mind and attitudes are focused on me instead of on Him, my actions then become selfish, not Godly. So you see, you don't need a church to set up a bunch of good deeds for you to do in order to be right with God, you need to set your mind on Him and the rest will follow naturally.

That’s a matter of discussion - whether you set your mind to something and good actions follow, or you do the actions (follow the Law) and the feelings follow.

And that is a key difference between Christianity and Judaism. The latter emphasizes actions and behavior over belief, and the former the opposite.

 

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What is the name of His son?

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say the only way to God is if you approve.

 

[Lisa558]

What is the name of His son?

G-d has no son, other than the fact that all of us are G-d’s children.

 

[Lisa558]

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say the only way to God is if you approve.

Ding, ding, ding!

 

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That’s a matter of discussion - whether you set your mind to something and good actions follow, or you do the actions (follow the Law) and the feelings follow.

And that is a key difference between Christianity and Judaism. The latter emphasizes actions and behavior over belief, and the former the opposite.

Not to all Christians, no. Just the highly evangelized ones.

 

[Lisa558]

Yes, and rules can change while the standards don't. Again, words mean things and you attempting to denigrate me shows you in a very bad light.

You certainly attempted to denigrate ME for not following the beliefs of your faith.

 

[Lisa558]

Not to all Christians, no. Just the highly evangelized ones.

Agree. That is the subgroup to which I am referring.

I speak from experience when I tell you how uncomfortable it is to have an evangelical Christian hound a Jew in an effort to get her to abandon her own religion and adopt the one that he insists is correct - complete with all the dire warnings about hell.

 

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Agree. That is the subgroup to which I am referring.

I speak from experience when I tell you how uncomfortable it is to have an evangelical Christian hound a Jew in an effort to get her to abandon her own religion and adopt the one that he insists is correct - complete with all the dire warnings about hell.

It actually shows he has no faith in God. That he believes that God can't draw you near without his help. It's pretty dumb and if it were done to him he'd be arguing the opposite.

 

[Lisa558]

It actually shows he has no faith in God. That he believes that God can't draw you near without his help. It's pretty dumb and if it were done to him he'd be arguing the opposite.

They are so self-absorbed in their “my way or the highway” thinking that they can’t see how obnoxious they’re being. One of them even sent me a sermon from his missionary church, and it was all full of how stubborn Jews are and how Gd is angry at them for rejecting Jesus, blah, blah, blah…..and it didn’t even occur to him how offensive tjahat would be to a Jew.

 

[hadit]

Will he know us by our fruits?

No, He knows us by our hearts.

 

[hadit]

G-d has no son, other than the fact that all of us are G-d’s children.

You wouldn't be able then to answer the question in Proverbs 30:4.

 

[hadit]

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say the only way to God is if you approve.

Enjoy being alone out there on your limb. Here's a hint, don't cut between you and the trunk.

 

[hadit]

That’s a matter of discussion - whether you set your mind to something and good actions follow, or you do the actions (follow the Law) and the feelings follow.

And that is a key difference between Christianity and Judaism. The latter emphasizes actions and behavior over belief, and the former the opposite.

That is the very controversy the early church debated, whether to force new Gentile Christians to follow the Mosaic Law that they couldn't even follow or not.

 

[hadit]

You certainly attempted to denigrate ME for not following the beliefs of your faith.

In what way?

 

[hadit]

Agree. That is the subgroup to which I am referring.

I speak from experience when I tell you how uncomfortable it is to have an evangelical Christian hound a Jew in an effort to get her to abandon her own religion and adopt the one that he insists is correct - complete with all the dire warnings about hell.

Since I didn't do that, you're not talking about me, although it would seem that you would dearly love to put me in that group.

 

[hadit]

They are so self-absorbed in their “my way or the highway” thinking that they can’t see how obnoxious they’re being. One of them even sent me a sermon from his missionary church, and it was all full of how stubborn Jews are and how Gd is angry at them for rejecting Jesus, blah, blah, blah…..and it didn’t even occur to him how offensive tjahat would be to a Jew.

Again, since I didn't do that, you're not talking about me.

 

[Lisa558]

In what way?

That I rejected Jesus, as a criticism.

 

[Lisa558]

No, He knows us by our hearts.

No, He knows us by our BEHAVIOR. There are 613 commandments that dictate good behavior.

 

[hadit]

That I rejected Jesus, as a criticism.

I said you reject Him completing the Law if you reject Him, but accept it if you accept Him. I don't know why you would take that as a denigration, it's a simple fact. Do you accept that He completed the Law?