If Alfie Evans were Muslim, Would the EU still be Starving Him To Death?

[Dekster]

No he was a vegetable at the end of a terminal genetic condition. There was no normal life and new treatments that would saved him. Sure he could have been a human lab rat for a bit if he had gotten there sooner, but the end was inevitable

Experts who, unlike you, know what the hell they are talking about say otherwise.

You just repeat this notion the kid was a vegetable to sooth your evil bastard conscience which is about dead already.

Experts like the medical doctors who were treating him disagree with your trailer park diagnosis. Guess what. They were right. He's dead.

 

[Dekster]

No

Experts who, unlike you, know what the hell they are talking about say otherwise.

You just repeat this notion the kid was a vegetable to sooth your evil bastard conscience which is about dead already.

That they do.

Scientists Have Reversed Brain Damage in a 2-Year-Old Girl Who Drowned in a Swimming Pool

Alfie wasn't a two year old who drowned in a pool. He had MDS and had already lost 70% of the white matter in his brain.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

If Alfie Evans were Muslim, Would the EU still be Starving Him To Death?

Yes, and what does this have to do with the EU?

EU courts are making the decisions after appeals.

This was decided by the British courts, not the EU

 

[Rustic]

Sarah Palin has been completely vindicated regarding the Socialist genocidal maniacs running their health care system.

Even if it costs them nothing, no precious resources, and allowed the child to be cared for by others who volunteered to care for the child and pay the costs, THE EU BLOOD SUCKERS STILL WANT THE CHILD DEAD.

Um, it isn't the "EU"... it's doctors who realize this kid died a long time ago, and they've spent millions keeping his corpse alive.

If this happened in the US, Cigna or Blue Cross would have cut this kid off a long time ago.

The point is it should never be up to the government, the government fucks up everything it touches, Despises freedom, consistently spends frivolously and is incestuous at best...

 

[Rustic]

Certainly. If the kid were a Muslim, would you be celebrating?

Of course not. He is still a human being, something you leftists cannot grasp.

Actually we can Jim.

Religion or race or ethnicity have nothing to do with it.

What IS evident is this - the parents are in a heartbreaking situation and some folks want to use it to score political points. That's kind of sucky don't you think?

You have a child that is critically ill and on life support. An MRI scan in November 2017 showed that 70% of of Alfie's brain had been destroyed, and more recent scans in Feb 2018 showed even more destruction. That doesn't regenerate. At what point do you take him off? There is no right answer.

But the federal government made the decision for everybody even though they have no right to and certainly no moral authority to... the motherfuckers

 

[Rustic]

Certainly. If the kid were a Muslim, would you be celebrating?

Of course not. He is still a human being, something you leftists cannot grasp.

He is a terminally ill vegetable who is going to die either way. I find it ironic that Christians who look to celebrate God and heaven like to blame the left when people die. Why aren't you thanking the Lord he will be set free and be present with the Lord? Why aren't you thanking the left for doing what Christians fear the most--letting nature take its course?

He is someone's child and that should not be forgotten.

The government thinks he should be forgotten and thrown in the dumpster

 

[Rustic]

It is a sad, heartbreaking story. I am hoping for a miracle.

The part that troubles me most is that the UK court is preventing Alfie's parents from taking him to Italy for treatment. Why do they have any say at all?

Apparently in the UK, the state owns your children. That should frighten us all.

No one owns children - not the state and not the parents.

I understand the rationale behind UK's laws. It's to provide the child an advocate and prevent some of the extreme abuses we see here between parents and sick children sometimes.

The government is the sickness, it is the disease, but parents do own the children you dumb fuck

 

[Rustic]

It is a sad, heartbreaking story. I am hoping for a miracle.

The part that troubles me most is that the UK court is preventing Alfie's parents from taking him to Italy for treatment. Why do they have any say at all?

Apparently in the UK, the state owns your children. That should frighten us all.

No one owns children - not the state and not the parents.

I understand the rationale behind UK's laws. It's to provide the child an advocate and prevent some of the extreme abuses we see here between parents and sick children sometimes.

The law is wrong in this case. There are no abuses. The child already has an advocate- his loving parents who want their child to get treated. They should have the right to take Alfie to Italy (or any other place) to get treatment.

Perhaps. But at some point when does "treatment" become abuse?

Government is not the authority on the matter,Certainly has zero moral authority the motherfuckers

 

[Rustic]

Perhaps. But at some point when does "treatment" become abuse?

I wish I were wise enough to answer that question....I do not have that level of wisdom but I do have that much heart...
That doesn't mean I'd be right...

That is why I feel there are no "villains" in this - it's just very sad.

Except for the government forcing shit on the most innocent party, Let’s hope this never happens to those government officials kids, fucking hypocrites

 

[Rustic]

Death was inevitable for this child, although I think that his parents should have been allowed to take him away if they could do so. The UK has many other children who need care and who have a chance, and the resources to do so can be stretched only so far.

It's awful that somebody would try to use this child's unfortunate situation to generate religious prejudice. It's indecent.

I hope that there will be a similar outpouring of sympathy for the thousands of children of varying physical conditions who are homeless refugees.

The government killed the kid, murdered the kid

 

[Rustic]

Certainly. If the kid were a Muslim, would you be celebrating?

Of course not. He is still a human being, something you leftists cannot grasp.

Actually we can Jim.

Religion or race or ethnicity have nothing to do with it.

What IS evident is this - the parents are in a heartbreaking situation and some folks want to use it to score political points. That's kind of sucky don't you think?

You have a child that is critically ill and on life support. An MRI scan in November 2017 showed that 70% of of Alfie's brain had been destroyed, and more recent scans in Feb 2018 showed even more destruction. That doesn't regenerate. At what point do you take him off? There is no right answer.

Denying the Varican from taking him in is outright murder by the Left.

Politics has nothing to do with it, but I understand your need to make it political. That is what matters to you isn’t it?

Politics had everything to do with it that’s what socialist countries do, they destroy the life, they destroy freedom, they destroyed individuality...

 

[Rustic]

Vvvv

Not a vegetable to me.

Internet experts who think they know more than his doctors based on a snapshot? Where did you get your medical degree and have you examined the child and his records?

The government and their doctors had no interest in saving the kid they never know, they obviously murdered the kid. They should be executed for murdering that kid...

 

[Rustic]

What IS evident is this - the parents are in a heartbreaking situation and some folks want to use it to score political points.

A child who is dying due to lack of food and medical care that is being kept from him despite his parents wishes is all this is about.

The 'Life Boat' party are the only ones wanting to play politics about any of this.

He is dying because his brain has been destroyed.

The federal government has no moral Authority on the matter because they are socialist government and they don’t give a shit about lives they don’t care about...

 

[Rustic]

He is a terminally ill vegetable who is going to die either way.

No, he could have had a normal life if he had some new treatments done, and why wouldnt the EU allow it if it is not at their expense and duly credentialed professionals are saying it is a plausible cure?

Maniacal wannabe murderers dont want their little precedent get away from them.

Can you cite any cases where any individual with over 70% of his brain destroyed and replaced by spinal fluid has had a normal life or even regained consciousness?

No wants to murder him.

They want to murder him obviously that’s what socialists do... they control people

 

[Rustic]

No, he could have had a normal life if he had some new treatments done, and why wouldnt the EU allow it if it is not at their expense and duly credentialed professionals are saying it is a plausible cure?

Maniacal wannabe murderers dont want their little precedent get away from them.

Uh, dude, where did you get your medical degree from, a cracker jack box?

The baby had 70% brain damage. In the very unlikely event he lived, he'd have been a vegetable his whole life.

Should never be the governments decision, because they have no interest in saving any lives.

 

[Rustic]

It is a sad, heartbreaking story. I am hoping for a miracle.

The part that troubles me most is that the UK court is preventing Alfie's parents from taking him to Italy for treatment. Why do they have any say at all?

Apparently in the UK, the state owns your children. That should frighten us all.

It is because the child has rights and they transcend the rights of the parents,the doctors and the rest. There was no treatment on offer in Italy. Just palliative care.It would not have been in the childs best interests to go to Italy.

The doctors made the case and various courts agreed with them,based on the evidence. The parents deserve our sympathy because they have been used and exploited by religious and political schemers. I hope they find some peace some day.

They were wrong, they will always will be wrong because they should have zero say in the matter like this because they are fascist fucks

 

[Rustic]

He is a terminally ill vegetable who is going to die either way.

No, he could have had a normal life if he had some new treatments done, and why wouldnt the EU allow it if it is not at their expense and duly credentialed professionals are saying it is a plausible cure?

Maniacal wannabe murderers dont want their little precedent get away from them.

No he was a vegetable at the end of a terminal genetic condition. There was no normal life and new treatments that would saved him. Sure he could have been a human lab rat for a bit if he had gotten there sooner, but the end was inevitable

That’s not the point the government should have zero say in the matter because they have zero moral authority and certainly do not have the best interest of the kids or the parents in mind

 

[Rustic]

In the comments on that article link John R. Bloxson Jr. tells his horror story about doctors wanting to pull the life supports away from him here is the US. He is on facebook if anyone is interested in looking at what he has gone through with Obamacare.

I also can't say it enough times my son was also diagnosed brain dead thirty-eight years ago. If I had given up as doctors and others encouraged me to do I would have missed the pleasure of having my son with me and having the pleasure of meeting my son's beautiful son.

I also recall when my grandfather was hit by a car and was on life support. He pleaded with my aunt to not let them take away life support after doctors told family members in his hospital room that he was totally brain dead. No one listened to my aunt relating grandpa's request to stay alive. Grandpa had what was supposed to be the best insurance possible, Bluecross Bluesheild that was bought and paid for by his union that he retired from several years previously.

Did MRI’s show most of his brain destroyed and replaced by fluid? You don’t recover from that and this child has had a team of experts keeping him alive and trying to stop the progression. Every case is different, but at what point do you decide it is time?

How did your grandfather plead not to take away life support? It sounds like gross medical malpractice for them to ignore him.

IMO...they should have allowed the parents to take the child to Italy if it was on their own dime and possible to do. It would at least give them closure, that they had tried everything.

But it is wrong to say the doctors killed him or the state. His disease killed him.

The government is wrong in every way in this matter, and they should be hunted for the rest of their lives

 

[Rustic]

No, he could have had a normal life if he had some new treatments done, and why wouldnt the EU allow it if it is not at their expense and duly credentialed professionals are saying it is a plausible cure?

Maniacal wannabe murderers dont want their little precedent get away from them.

Uh, dude, where did you get your medical degree from, a cracker jack box?

The baby had 70% brain damage. In the very unlikely event he lived, he'd have been a vegetable his whole life.

It was more than that by Feb 2018, and all their attempts to slow or halt the disease had failed. These doctors also don’t work in isolation, they consult with experts around the world, and the Vatican could have sent their doctors there I would think.

That’s not the point, it should be only up to the parents no one else whatsoever. Fucking control freak motherfuckers

 

[Lysistrata]

To all of you bitching: take care of those kids on the caravan heading north. Fight for them and for everything possible to give them a better life. Or is your championship of a toddler whose brain basically was gone give you political points and this is why you're doing it. The kids from Honduras need your help.