How should we think about this?

[kyzr]

And if an employed US citizen who works for a company not offering health insurance and not paying enough for the employee to afford a private plan shows up at a hospital in need of treatment..........what then?

The government offers low end "employer" coverage at the going rate, the employee either pays for it or not.

 

[Doc7505]

I don't see the US going in that direction. The ACA was the ham handed result, due to R obstruction, of a kind of private/public partnership to increase the number of insured Americans. R's have tried to kill it ever since. Largely because it had the potential for success in both getting more people insured and slowing medical cost inflation. Also because it has gained in popularity. Making their opposition to it a political vulnerability.

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Only one Republican voted for the ACA that was Rep. Joe Cao (R-LA).
Obamacare was forced upon Americans by Democrats.
Biden expanded the Affordable Care Act (ACA) through COVID-related subsidies, which created financial inequities and increased improper enrollments. However, the ACA itself remains intact, and these expansions are set to expire, allowing the original ACA structure to continue.
The Biden expansion has been linked to increased fraud, with reports of individuals enrolling under false pretenses, further straining taxpayer resources.
Democrats are now insisting that the Covid subsidies passed by Democrats during the Biden presidency should be extended when they themselves set the sundown parameters.

 

[22lcidw]

I don't see the US going in that direction. The ACA was the ham handed result, due to R obstruction, of a kind of private/public partnership to increase the number of insured Americans. R's have tried to kill it ever since. Largely because it had the potential for success in both getting more people insured and slowing medical cost inflation. Also because it has gained in popularity. Making their opposition to it a political vulnerability.

It's the lies of costs that we always get. In many programs that the government controls. Defense, space, social programs, corrupted contractors, people stealing checks and benefits, etc. And you guys just wash your hands of it and move on. In fact, it is proven now that you help it along. The last year alone has proven that. Your tentacles of corruption is in a lot of programs. It makes you popular. Adn the taxpayer/citizen suffers.

 

[struth]

Americans Support Federal Funding for Hospital Bills of Uninsured, With Limits​

A separate nationally representative web survey using Gallup’s probability-based panel, conducted Nov. 3-16, tested the public’s views on whether the federal government should provide funding to hospitals to cover medical expenses for uninsured Americans. When asked simply if the government should provide such funding, 73% of Americans say it should, and 25% say it should not. While majorities of Democrats (93%) and independents (78%) agree that the government should pay for the care of uninsured patients, a majority of Republicans (53%) disagree.

Americans have a different perspective on covering hospitals’ costs for the uninsured when the question specifies the residency status of those patients. When asked to choose from three options, a slim majority of U.S. adults (51%) favor federal funding to cover medical expenses for uninsured legal residents of the U.S., while 33% think it should cover costs for all uninsured patients, including those living in the country illegally. Another 14% of Americans believe the government should not pay hospitals for any costs incurred by uninsured patients.

A majority of Republicans (70%) and a plurality of independents (50%) support funding for uninsured patients living in the U.S. legally. In contrast, a majority of Democrats (59%) support federal funding for all uninsured patients, regardless of their legal status.

Independents Drive Approval of ACA to New High of 57%

Americans' approval of the Affordable Care Act has risen to a new high, fueled by increased support among political independents.

news.gallup.com

It's a poll that tells us a lot about who we are and yet leaves our attitudes as a nation open to interpretation. Perhaps raising more questions than it answers.

Are the 73% who favor using taxpayer money to pay the medical bills for the uninsured closet socialists when it comes to medical treatment for the needy? Have we become so enamored with tribal politics that it influences how we think our fellow human beings should be treated when it comes to their health? How should we balance matters of morality with fiscal responsibility? Is there a better way to design the healthcare delivery system of the country?

Seems pretty clear that Dems are by in large on board with bailing out businesses and Republican are a little more mixed on the issue

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Are the 73% who favor using taxpayer money to pay the medical bills for the uninsured closet socialists when it comes to medical treatment for the needy?

Of course not.

The problem is that conservatives blindly adhere to failed, wrongheaded political dogma hostile to assisting those in need, and the lie that such assistance acts as a ‘disincentive’ to hard work and success, when in fact nothing could be further from the truth.

 

[westwall]

You don’t jump off a ship in the middle of the ocean unless you have something better to jump ON TO.

We don’t

You do if that ship is on fire, about to explode.

Which obummer care is about to do.

 

[Lesh]

You do if that ship is on fire, about to explode.

Which obummer care is about to do.

You better be pretty damn sure it’s about to explode
In this case it isn’t unless Republicans blow it up

 

[westwall]

You better be pretty damn sure it’s about to explode
I’m this case it isn’t unless Republicans blow it up

Obummer care was NEVER affordable. Without massive government assistance the middle class couldn't afford it.

Thus, it was always a lie, and as the author of the program said, "we rely on the stupidity of the American public to get this passed".

So, clearly you're one of his target audience.

 

[Lesh]

Obummer care was NEVER affordable. Without massive government assistance the middle class couldn't afford it.

Thus, it was always a lie, and as the author of the program said, "we rely on the stupidity of the American public to get this passed".

So, clearly you're one of his target audience.

Republicans have done everything possible to screw it up

Removing the mandate was just the first cut

11 ways the GOP sabotaged Obamacare

The story of Obamacare's problems is not complete unless we take a look back at all the ways Republican lawmakers took steps to deliberately weaken the Affordable Care Act.

www.healthinsurance.org

 

[westwall]

Republicans have done everything possible to screw or up

Removing the mandate was just the first cut

As I said, you're the obummercare creators target audience.

Not very bright.